retatrutide while gaining size

[Cpitt405]

Who here runs this and has success using it to control food noise while building lean muscle. Tirzepatide is wicked if you wanna cut take that shit and 3-4 Months you won’t be able to stop losing weight lol. Tirz. Appetite suppression is fuckin insane how the fuck I went from a for me lean 173 to wickedly insane 145 diced up was beyond my belief and I didn’t even have to try to diet. If anything my cardio was going down while on the tirz cause it made me lethargic as fuck got off it and switched Reta and I lost the lethargy, could take a shit again and you can actually eat food but not like a lot of food so it helps to make decisions on amounts easier. My goals were diff then and now I’m wanting to add some mass but nothing sloppy so I wanna try to use Reta while building mass making better food choices and learning how to incorporate anabolics into that process

 

[aimanabolic]

I think it's still in the "in theory" stage from Chase Irons YT video about it.

I recommend you do it and log your journey, but it would take being as strict as possible with everything else to make the data more accurate.

The reason you felt lethargic on Tirz is because you weren't eating enough to sustain daily energy expenditure.

 

[Cpitt405]

Makes sense on the low cals low energy def couldnt take in the 2200 calories I need a day. Its why I like the Reta better I can actually eat but it keeps me in check volume wise when I do eat. The tirz you pretty much don’t wanna eat things at all. I did notice when i stopped Reta for 2 weeks I was fuckin crushing food like a monster and I’m guessing that’s from the tren and deca making me hungry as fuck it felt like. Yeah I’ve watched some of chases stuff and it’s why I’m now microdosing Reta .5mg a day I was doing 1 shot per week at first so I’d get less eating control as it wore off thru the week. I’m kinda doing that with my anabolics I dosed 100mg tren a week then up to 200 right now but pinning every day small amounts. I have a medical background with tons of science education and feel that the highs and lows of minimal doses per week just seems like it would be a roller coaster ride by design error. Slow low and steady is my aim. At 0 point is my aim to look like jay cutler or those guys I just Anna look in the mirror 2 years down the road and see a guy that looks better than the guy today!!!

 

[aimanabolic]

I love daily injections for everything, but if you're trying to grow I would drop the Tren.

I'm currently in a grow phase with 450 Test + 350 Primo and 5IU HGH for reference. By no means is that the perfect grow stack, but it has been working well with me.

 

[Cpitt405]

I love daily injections for everything, but if you're trying to grow I would drop the Tren.

I'm currently in a grow phase with 450 Test + 350 Primo and 5IU HGH for reference. By no means is that the perfect grow stack, but it has been working well with me.

So I see mixed commentary on tren as growing or cutting and some say you can grow and define on it. It’s why I’ve put the deca in plump me up a smidge but try to leverage the trens sweating increased metabolism while in catabolic state(I pretty much fucked here cause I literally can’t not run 50-100 mins a day). I’m an never going back to the fat piece of shit I was and the fear of it is what keeps me going and working. We’ll see how it goes the next few months with adding the anabolic into my mix on top of my 200mg trt I’ve been on 4 years. I’ve gone as much as 420 mg a week of it and my test was 2600 ng/dl or whatever those exact metrics are.

 

[aimanabolic]

There are a lot of guys who use Tren in the growth phase, but it shines more when in aggressive deficit.

If you feel great on it with minimal sides and staying on top of your health, then it's a good fit for you.

Usually Tren affects sleep and lipids which makes growing harder.

 

[Meetketchup]

Everyone can use GLP-1's however they damn please, but to run in a surplus? I have an insane appetite, eat 6k a day and still be ravenous. I've reached as low as 1,700 cals late in contest prep and that is real hunger. Now, are GLP's relatively safe thus far? Yes. Do we know that for sure or are their side effects? Yes. It's whether a little food noise as you say is worth the running it. It's ok to be a little hungry.

 

[Cpitt405]

I sleep like shit and always have the mk677 will help with that some too. Hitting hgh with 2.4 and 2.4 iu two times daily along with using mk to get the endogenous gh up as well. Melatonin seems to help some but im def waking up in a sweat so im pretty sure my tren at least has some potency. Its from genlabs off your muscle shop, no negative sides yet mind is in a great spot haven’t felt this good in a while to be honest work is crushing it,kids are fuckin crushing it, life with wifey is crushing it lucky mfer right now for sure don’t pinch me lol

 

[Cpitt405]

Everyone can use GLP-1's however they damn please, but to run in a surplus? I have an insane appetite, eat 6k a day and still be ravenous. I've reached as low as 1,700 cals late in contest prep and that is real hunger. Now, are GLP's relatively safe thus far? Yes. Do we know that for sure or are their side effects? Yes. It's whether a little food noise as you say is worth the running it. It's ok to be a little hungry.

Trying to find the line of surplus and stupid mindless eating cause I know where that shit got me in the past. Interested in the glucagon part of the Reta and keeping insulin’s resistance in line so that the calories I’m taking in are more efficiently used. All experimentation for me and that’s part of the fun I’m enjoying right now. I get to read interpret the science and institute it and learn from the effects as I go.

 

[aimanabolic]

If you're taking HGH, you'd probably benefit more doing it all before bed, and drop the MK677 unless you need help eating more.

HGH > MK677 since you're already taking it. Save it for later, IMO.

 

[Meetketchup]

Trying to find the line of surplus and stupid mindless eating cause I know where that shit got me in the past. Interested in the glucagon part of the Reta and keeping insulin’s resistance in line so that the calories I’m taking in are more efficiently used. All experimentation for me and that’s part of the fun I’m enjoying right now. I get to read interpret the science and institute it and learn from the effects as I go.

Got ya man. Remember, insulin resistance can be controlled with diet and not slamming calories.

 

[Cpitt405]

Theory was endogenous and synthetic avenues each metabolite breaking down slightly different. I have money to Throw at it and the mk is relatively cheap add on so I’ll see if I get some sleep benefits from that side the hgh hasn’t seemed to help me sleep I do 2.4 iu am and 2.4 iu at night right now don’t wanna go all arthritic blow up my face high on it. Just happy to be looking the way I do right now and if I make improvements from this it’s just icing on the cake shit that’s making this former fat kid hungry lol

 

[Cpitt405]

Got ya man. Remember, insulin resistance can be controlled with diet and not slamming calories.

Yes and low bf which I have already, good cardio which I do almost too much of from an addiction standpoint probably along with Retas help too. Don’t drink much and try to keep mostly clean living habits in general. Lake season fucks with me drinking some but it’s winter so time to lock in the weeks on end without a single fuckin beer. just got my boat out of the shop with new canvas around it and shit load of props sterns and rudders work done. I can actually go out in 35 degree weather days now that all my canopy is enclosed again

 

[GYAT]

I sleep like shit and always have the mk677 will help with that some too. Hitting hgh with 2.4 and 2.4 iu two times daily along with using mk to get the endogenous gh up as well. Melatonin seems to help some but im def waking up in a sweat so im pretty sure my tren at least has some potency. Its from genlabs off your muscle shop, no negative sides yet mind is in a great spot haven’t felt this good in a while to be honest work is crushing it,kids are fuckin crushing it, life with wifey is crushing it lucky mfer right now for sure don’t pinch me lol

Sounds and looks (thx for the pic you and your lady are beautiful human beings) like you are crushing it dude way to go. I just added my first ever run with YMS Tren Ace into my mix as well today, so I am glad to hear you are digging it. First pin this morning I go low and steady as well only pinned 25mg this morning will do that a few times a week for a couple weeks then bump. Did you notice the Tren libido increase I read and hear so much about?

 

[Cpitt405]

Not so much on libido but waking up with 13 year old boy boners all times of night. If you ever wanna jackhammer fuck porno cock destroyer style check out trimix. Haven’t seen anything on on any of the shops I’ve been too but that shit makes viagar and cialis look like child’s play. E interested to hear your reports on the tren too. I’ve def added bout 10 pounds since starting almost 4 weeks ago and in the mirror it looks like a good 10 pounds and fuckin feels like it too. I’m gonna send off my own sample to Janoshik as well I’ve paid for it already just gotta figure out how to use their shipping protocol and get it sent over to them next I’ll let ya knkw when I get the results. Had another guy say that the gen labs bottle of the tren I sent a pic of was pretty good stuff and I don’t think he was related to your muscle shop but who fucikg knows I can’t keep shit straight in these forums nor do I believe everything I see in them

 

[Cpitt405]

Sounds and looks (thx for the pic you and your lady are beautiful human beings) like you are crushing it dude way to go. I just added my first ever run with YMS Tren Ace into my mix as well today, so I am glad to hear you are digging it. First pin this morning I go low and steady as well only pinned 25mg this morning will do that a few times a week for a couple weeks then bump. Did you notice the Tren libido increase I read and hear so much about?

Also my libido is usually pretty strong we live an alternative lifestyle so monogamy and sexual boredom is not a thing for us. Way outkicked my coverage and am so lucky to have her in my life. I got her fuckin back and she’s got mine both married to sexless fucks before met during our divorce crazies and decided we’ll never be bored in the bedroom again so let’s go fuck some people together lol

 

[GYAT]

Also my libido is usually pretty strong we live an alternative lifestyle so monogamy and sexual boredom is not a thing for us. Way outkicked my coverage and am so lucky to have her in my life. I got her fuckin back and she’s got mine both married to sexless fucks before met during our divorce crazies and decided we’ll never be bored in the bedroom again so let’s go fuck some people together lol

Dude I so feel you. I just left my sexless marriage a year ago. Love of my life but her alchohlism just started to take over and was all she cared about. Time to make a better life for me and my daughters and so I GTFO. It's been quite an eye opener how much I was missing out on. Got in better shape than I've been in 10 years (continue to do that as well), started getting back to myself, and hooking up with girls 20 years younger than me (I'm 50). It's nucking futs how much more sexually open and willing and able and ready some of the women are out there these days! Happy to hear you got out of that and found your true ride or die. Cherish her and that and hold on to it and fight for it every day (I get the feeling you do and will). More amazing pics you are living the dream for sure buddy.

 

[Cpitt405]

That’s awesome to hear!!! Man we are from the age where our parents stayed married thru shitty 50-60 year marriage cause that’s the right thing to do blah blah blah sancwhiched in between these crazy mollie doing orgy pornhub driven insanity we see now a days. Good time to be a confident, strong, probably stable financially middle aged male on the prowl for sure. It’s crazy how much fun our sexy asses get to have with couples much younger than us. I get more strange now than I did in the first 15 years of my adult life it’s Fuckin awesome. I do not see how people live monogamous lives anymore you can have an amazing loving spouse that you work as a team with to fuckin have the adventures of a lifetime. Don’t fuckin settle and talk to your fuck buddies as your out dating we started out as nothing but fuck friends talking bout who we were going out with when we couldn’t meet up with each other because of f our kids schedules etc and then decided shit let’s go fuck these mfers together!!’ Its not normal and you learn from your experiences she had more trust issues along the way but in the end she knows I will NEVER do anything without her full knowledge nor would I ever

 

[Cpitt405]

There’s a plethora of lifestyle friendly places and in the 12 years we’ve been In It it has grown immensely like your local cop is in it, we’ve met pastors etc it’ll blow your fuckin mind!! I see people post porn on here but I try to fucki live it lol i basically don’t even watch porn anymore and in the first marriage it was 9600 baud dial up take 2 mins to load a pic infatuation I had non stop. Cookie Monsters husband taking the pic was dressed as the milkman lol. Just great like minded people having the times of their lives

 

[Andrewgen_Receptors]

How did this thread go from GLP-1s to posting nudes?

 

[aimanabolic]

How did this thread go from GLP-1s to posting nudes?

If only all conversations led to nudes

 

[Nextup]

On Reta, I've had no problem eating even when taking 2.5 mg 3x a week. Definitely lowers food noise/I'm not as hungry. Lost some weight on it, but working out significantly more + taking HGH secretagouges and now HGH.

I think you could grow on it, would just keep dose low and split it up over the week.

 

[aimanabolic]

On Reta, I've had no problem eating even when taking 2.5 mg 3x a week.

That's a lot of Reta to not use for weight loss, have you noticed any difference with less fat gain?

I would think you could do 2.5mg a week and get the benefits Chase Irons was talking about.

 

[Nextup]

That's a lot of Reta to not use for weight loss, have you noticed any difference with less fat gain?

I would think you could do 2.5mg a week and get the benefits Chase Irons was talking about.

I've definitely been losing fat and have kept/grown muscle but think I might be limiting my growth, so will switch off in a month. Reta for last 60-70 days, but down 255 -> 226 since July. Roughly 12 lbs since starting Reta.

 

[aimanabolic]

Badass, what will you be running on your grow phase?

 

[Meetketchup]

I think you could grow on it, would just keep dose low and split it up over the week.

You can gain or lose weight on anything. In the end it's calories in vs calories out. GLP-1's simply make you want to eat less. It's not magic.

 

[Nextup]

Badass, what will you be running on your grow phase?

Planning Test C w Primo and low dose of NPP. Will start low and titrate up, see how I feel.

 

[Cpitt405]

0 to 120 type of guy lol

 

[nightwing]

You can gain or lose weight on anything. In the end it's calories in vs calories out. GLP-1's simply make you want to eat less. It's not magic.

from experience I can say that reta totally crushed the desire to eat sweets, like cakes, donuts, ice cream. I can adhere to a diet plan now, but the former me was so outta whack in insulin resistance and long term obesity that it was a game changer. don't think that it's something required for me like it was 2 years ago though.

 

[Cpitt405]

Yep it’s great for punishing you when you try to eat a bunch of candy sweets or breads pastas rice.