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Astro95 said:
Oh I hear you I’m running Beligas test e 300 and Deca 500. My girl said I looked like I got a BBL the other day how bad my ass was swollen. It’s not the Deca 500 though it’s the test E. Can’t imagine what that 450 doing to you. Switch to cyp.
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My leg honestly feels like it's broken or fractured, fucking hurts like a bitch and I can take pain pretty well but fuck me is it bad lol, I injected 3 days ago and the first day there was no pain at all but now it's much worse, I can barely go up and down the steps and I live on the second floor, when I walk it looks like I'm holding a dump in my pants cause I have to grab the rail and I kinda just wobble up and down the steps, going up ain't that bad but going down is an absolute bitch😂
 
CompoundLifts31 said:
Everyone has mentioned high estrogen, but it could also be your liver. I don't think it would be with just test and anavar, but who knows. If your liver is stressed, you'll feel awful. I've felt that tiredness before and it was because of the SuperDrol I was raking.

That's why blood work is so important pre, during, and post cycle.

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Yeah im still not even sure if what I got was even Anavar, I swear when I took it for just a week and a half I gained so much muscle, I went from flabby arms to pretty much all muscle in my forearms and biceps, I wish I could stay on it without feeling so damn tired cause just taking the Test alone I'm not getting as fast of gains as I was so that sucks
 
Seriously, if you're broke, I'd take the time while you're saving up and do nothing but read and research. This forum has a TON of information from some very experienced people. Read about first cycles, amounts, types of testosterone, other compounds to add (or not to add), and preparations for side effects! But yes, as others have said: you need blood tests (for hormones) first, before you start, to know what your body is doing. And then you need more blood tests after you start to see what's happening to your body!

And if you want to read about virgin muscle pain, you can check that out here: Virgin Muscle Pin

If you didn't get the concentration question answered/understood: In that vial in your picture, there's 450 mg of testosterone in 1 ml of the bottle. So if the bottle is 10ml, there's a total of 4,500mg of testosterone in the entire bottle. If you inject 1ml, you're getting 450 mg in that 1 ml.

In a 250 bottle, there's only 250mg in that same ml of liquid. So if you inject 1 ml, you get just 250mg. That's a much smaller amount of testosterone spread out over more liquid. That's likely what is caused you so much pain, you just have a large amount of test in a small amount of space.

You can still inject however much you want total with a 250 bottle as you can with a 450 bottle: you just change the amount of liquid in it. Presumably, if you've been injecting 400 per injection, with the 400 bottle you should have been using 0.9ml. To put the same 400 in with a 250 bottle, you'd need 1.6ml. That's a lot more liquid to spread out the test in your body.
 
Ogre said:
Seriously, if you're broke, I'd take the time while you're saving up and do nothing but read and research. This forum has a TON of information from some very experienced people. Read about first cycles, amounts, types of testosterone, other compounds to add (or not to add), and preparations for side effects! But yes, as others have said: you need blood tests (for hormones) first, before you start, to know what your body is doing. And then you need more blood tests after you start to see what's happening to your body!

And if you want to read about virgin muscle pain, you can check that out here: Virgin Muscle Pin

If you didn't get the concentration question answered/understood: In that vial in your picture, there's 450 mg of testosterone in 1 ml of the bottle. So if the bottle is 10ml, there's a total of 4,500mg of testosterone in the entire bottle. If you inject 1ml, you're getting 450 mg in that 1 ml.

In a 250 bottle, there's only 250mg in that same ml of liquid. So if you inject 1 ml, you get just 250mg. That's a much smaller amount of testosterone spread out over more liquid. That's likely what is caused you so much pain, you just have a large amount of test in a small amount of space.

You can still inject however much you want total with a 250 bottle as you can with a 450 bottle: you just change the amount of liquid in it. Presumably, if you've been injecting 400 per injection, with the 400 bottle you should have been using 0.9ml. To put the same 400 in with a 250 bottle, you'd need 1.6ml. That's a lot more liquid to spread out the test in your body
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Yeah that's what I thought the concentration meant, I thought someone said that I don't understand what it means but I did but I figured I could be wrong cause I'm new to this so I just agreed, can't I just get a 450mg again but just do half a ml? I feel like that would be cheaper cause it double the dose to 20 instead of using 10ml of 250, it would be slightly less potent by 25mg so I think that would be ok, I honestly need to make this bottle last me 3 more weeks cause I don't start work till Monday and I won't get paid for 2 weeks cause it's paid Biweekly which I found out 2 days ago😑, also I got a question, like 9 months ago I went into a workout supplement store in my town and they had SArMS and I tried it for like a 4 days and never felt anything so I haven't taken it since, I heard it was supposed to be identical and be the "same" as steroids but it didn't do anything for me at all, wasted over $150 on that bottle but I still have it for some reason, what's your all's opinion on sArMS and if maybe the reason it didn't work is cause it has to build up in your system?? Not really sure but im curious to know what y'all think of them, I honestly don't need them but if for some reason I run out before I get paid I may need something that boosts my testosterone levels or keep me balanced before I buy my next cycle IF that even does boost testosterone levels, this is what I bought a while back
 

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DopeSaladz said:
Yeah im still not even sure if what I got was even Anavar, I swear when I took it for just a week and a half I gained so much muscle, I went from flabby arms to pretty much all muscle in my forearms and biceps, I wish I could stay on it without feeling so damn tired cause just taking the Test alone I'm not getting as fast of gains as I was so that sucks
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Bro that sounds like SuperDrol or Anadrol.

PM me source please.

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DopeSaladz said:
Yeah that's what I thought the concentration meant, I thought someone said that I don't understand what it means but I did but I figured I could be wrong cause I'm new to this so I just agreed, can't I just get a 450mg again but just do half a ml? I feel like that would be cheaper cause it double the dose to 20 instead of using 10ml of 250, it would be slightly less potent by 25mg so I think that would be ok, I honestly need to make this bottle last me 3 more weeks cause I don't start work till Monday and I won't get paid for 2 weeks cause it's paid Biweekly which I found out 2 days ago, also I got a question, like 9 months ago I went into a workout supplement store in my town and they had SArMS and I tried it for like a 4 days and never felt anything so I haven't taken it since, I heard it was supposed to be identical and be the "same" as steroids but it didn't do anything for me at all, wasted over $150 on that bottle but I still have it for some reason, what's your all's opinion on sArMS and if maybe the reason it didn't work is cause it has to build up in your system?? Not really sure but im curious to know what y'all think of them, I honestly don't need them but if for some reason I run out before I get paid I may need something that boosts my testosterone levels or keep me balanced before I buy my next cycle IF that even does boost testosterone levels, this is what I bought a while back
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That's a lot of SARMS for that liver to process bro!!!

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CompoundLifts31 said:
That's a lot of SARMS for that liver to process bro!!!

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Yeah I know right, it didn't even work so I was just curious if that stuff even works, I'm not wanting to add it to my cycle I was just curious cause I've heard some people say it's "similar" to steroids but never got that feeling when I took it for 4 days
 
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Why use Sarms when you have access to steriods with years and years of research behind them. Most Sarms also shut down your natural testosterone. So when using them you should be injecting testosterone. Might as well just use steriods. Better quality gains. Probably safer also.
 
Powerhousehb said:
Why use Sarms when you have access to steriods with years and years of research behind them. Most Sarms also shut down your natural testosterone. So when using them you should be injecting testosterone. Might as well just use steriods. Better quality gains. Probably safer also.
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I was just curious, I don't plan on taking it but I like to be as knowledgeable as I can when it comes to all types of drugs, I know everything there is to know about actual drugs cause up until 2 years ago I was a full blown addict taking fentanyl, meth and with high potency research chemicals like clonazolam which is the strongest legal benzodiazepine on the planet, and I've done a lot of everything pretty much and I've been on every medication you can think of so I'm extremely knowledgeable about anything drug related even legal research chemicals of stimulants, Benzos, and opiates, I'm 26 years old and from the age of 8 years old I was always on something and I have about 12 years of research on every drug even all psychedelics and plus I used to sell drugs for a while buying off the dark web and flipping it to plugs in my area but I dont live that life no more and never will cause I'm 2 years clean from fentanyl and a year from other substances, 2 years ago I overdoes on a batch of meth mixed with fentanyl and I took about a gram straight to the nose and nearly died, as soon as I got to the emergency room from riding in the ambulance they had me in the hallway and told someone to get the shock paddles ready and then I just blacked out, I don't know if I died but I woke up in the intensive care unit, it still give me chills just talking about it cause that was the closest I've been to death and ever since then I stopped using that stuff and I'll never go back and don't even enjoy the feeling of being high or drunk anymore, but anyways in the future I may want to be a pharmacist, psychiatrist or therapist and I would like to have all the knowledge I can about all drugs so I can help people
 
rdm said:
This thread is all over the place...

@DopeSaladz my advice would be to stop pinning and start reading. It seems you went into this blind.
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I have been doing research as well as talking to everyone, I just like this community and everyone here is cool to talk to, also I actually love to research all different drug compounds to gain as much knowledge as I can cause in the future I plan on becoming a pharmacist, psychiatrist, or therapist so I can help people
 
DopeSaladz said:
I was just curious, I don't plan on taking it but I like to be as knowledgeable as I can when it comes to all types of drugs, I know everything there is to know about actual drugs cause up until 2 years ago I was a full blown addict taking fentanyl, meth and with high potency research chemicals like clonazolam which is the strongest legal benzodiazepine on the planet, and I've done a lot of everything pretty much and I've been on every medication you can think of so I'm extremely knowledgeable about anything drug related even legal research chemicals of stimulants, Benzos, and opiates, I'm 26 years old and from the age of 8 years old I was always on something and I have about 12 years of research on every drug even all psychedelics and plus I used to sell drugs for a while buying off the dark web and flipping it to plugs in my area but I dont live that life no more and never will cause I'm 2 years clean from fentanyl and a year from other substances, 2 years ago I overdoes on a batch of meth mixed with fentanyl and I took about a gram straight to the nose and nearly died, as soon as I got to the emergency room from riding in the ambulance they had me in the hallway and told someone to get the shock paddles ready and then I just blacked out, I don't know if I died but I woke up in the intensive care unit, it still give me chills just talking about it cause that was the closest I've been to death and ever since then I stopped using that stuff and I'll never go back and don't even enjoy the feeling of being high or drunk anymore, but anyways in the future I may want to be a pharmacist, psychiatrist or therapist and I would like to have all the knowledge I can about all drugs so I can help people
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I'm PMing you right now..
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DopeSaladz said:
I was just curious, I don't plan on taking it but I like to be as knowledgeable as I can when it comes to all types of drugs, I know everything there is to know about actual drugs cause up until 2 years ago I was a full blown addict taking fentanyl, meth and with high potency research chemicals like clonazolam which is the strongest legal benzodiazepine on the planet, and I've done a lot of everything pretty much and I've been on every medication you can think of so I'm extremely knowledgeable about anything drug related even legal research chemicals of stimulants, Benzos, and opiates, I'm 26 years old and from the age of 8 years old I was always on something and I have about 12 years of research on every drug even all psychedelics and plus I used to sell drugs for a while buying off the dark web and flipping it to plugs in my area but I dont live that life no more and never will cause I'm 2 years clean from fentanyl and a year from other substances, 2 years ago I overdoes on a batch of meth mixed with fentanyl and I took about a gram straight to the nose and nearly died, as soon as I got to the emergency room from riding in the ambulance they had me in the hallway and told someone to get the shock paddles ready and then I just blacked out, I don't know if I died but I woke up in the intensive care unit, it still give me chills just talking about it cause that was the closest I've been to death and ever since then I stopped using that stuff and I'll never go back and don't even enjoy the feeling of being high or drunk anymore, but anyways in the future I may want to be a pharmacist, psychiatrist or therapist and I would like to have all the knowledge I can about all drugs so I can help people
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Congratulations on being 2 years clean. I'm about 6 years clean from benzos and 30 years from alchol and around 5 years from pain pills. I have a similar story. What counts is your on the right track now. A lot of us here were involved with other destruction habits before we found the gym and started a new life. If you ever need to talk. Hit me up anytime with a DM. Knowledge is power!
 
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LickMyTATE said:
Clomid is generally post cycle;

I wouldn't do anything until you get those bloods brother. I know it makes it harder but this is your body we're talking about, you only get 1..... Best to not fuck it up, especially on your first run. Would be a huge bummer. Longevity is key. Can't enjoy all those gains 6 feet under, so always go with the safe bet when on ANY compounds.

Also if it is high estrogen, I recommend Aromasin 12.5mg every 3 days or so. It is generally accepted to be "easier" on the body than other AI's.

Good luck, keep us posted brother!
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Good post bro
 
DopeSaladz said:
Hi, I've been taking Testosterone for about a month and at first it made me feel better than I ever have in years and would get constant erections but now it's hard to stay hard and sometimes I end up feeling depressed and have self destructive thoughts, I did buy Clomid which I think may help but I don't know if I'm supposed to take it with the testosterone or after my cycle of testosterone, also the first week and a half I was taking 50mg Anavar with Testosterone and at first I had a lot of energy and felt great but it started making me feel really tired, it felt similar to taking Xanax, for 4 days I didn't know why I was feeling like this, for those 4 days I couldn't get out of bed or do anything cause I was so sedated, I would like to go back on the Anavar cause when it was working it gave me energy to where all i wanted to do was workout but now just taking the Testosterone by itself I don't get that same motivation to workout, I don't know if maybe the dose needs to be lowered or what I need to do but if someone can give me some advice about all of this that would be great cause this is my first time taking steroids, also one more thing to add, about 4 hours to a day after injecting Testosterone in my upper thigh it becomes so painful that it's hard to bend my leg or walk for like 4-5 days but then it goes away, is that supposed to happen or should I be concerned?? Also can I inject around the same area where I last injected cause I tried to do my left thigh to switch it up and the pain was so much more worse on that thigh than the right thigh to the point where I would limp so I just don't even want to inject in that thigh, also what are some other areas that I could inject that won't cause as much pain?
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I don't know where you got your gear but you might have tainted stuff. I did years ago. Made my quads,glutes whatever I pinned get rock hard, hurt and hot. I definitely had a infection but after about 1 or 2 weeks I was ok. Needless to say I threw out the stuff and now will not do anything but pharmacy grade gear. Shy of the soreness that's all you get. No issues at all.
 

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