PSL and other labs

[JRotten]

cycle:

250 testE
400 trenE
600 mastE
750 eq
abusing dbol drol and sdrol as I see fit.

I did take 25mg of asin the day before labs because of watery eyes if you know what I mean. I have been using UDCA for about 10 days at the time of blood draw. Pinning of test is split Tuesday and Friday unless I forget. I did pin the day before draw because it was actually PSA, lipids (in the gutter), igf-1, and liver I wanted to see. All tests are LC/ms/ms ultra sensitive. What is cool about these labs aside from the test is obviously test (unless you want to say the eq is test also which I don't believe) is he liver values after 6 weeks of orals abuse. PLUS these are baseline labs for the Eurotropin I started the day after these labs were drawn. So in 4 weeks we will have baseline and serum GH labs for the Eurotropin as well as being able to see how the UDCA holds out. These labs aren't really meant to mean a lot to the board, but if you check my log and look at the labs I think it's two good marks for PSL and this will probably be the most thorough testing we've had on any GH brand on the board in a while when the next labs are done!

 

[uberdawg]

I still cant get over how good those liver values came back...

 

[macedog24]

Udca works like a charm.. nice. Bet liver values come back the same in 4 weeks.
Igf at 70. .cant wait to see these results. In 4 weeks... thank you jr. This is very appreciated. And very thorough.

 

[Machinist9]

Very nice.more good news about psl.
Like there ever was a doubt.

 

[gdawg]

I thought after this weekend everyone threw their UDCA in the garbage . Haha . I'm about to pin some Eurotropin right now. Thanks JR great news .

 

[jerseydevil]

Very nice starting point. Free test is 3% of total which is very good. Proviron would probably bump that to 4%.

These liver values are amazing. I seem to be lucky, usually just Liv 52 keeps me in the normal range even with MSten, but the UDCA has my attention.

 

[macedog24]

Very nice starting point. Free test is 3% of total which is very good. Proviron would probably bump that to 4%.

These liver values are amazing. I seem to be lucky, usually just Liv 52 keeps me in the normal range even with MSten, but the UDCA has my attention.

Very glad you dropped in JD! Always look forward to what you have to say. Its always something we can learn from.

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[JRotten]

Very nice starting point. Free test is 3% of total which is very good. Proviron would probably bump that to 4%.

These liver values are amazing. I seem to be lucky, usually just Liv 52 keeps me in the normal range even with MSten, but the UDCA has my attention.

Well UDCA has another benefit. What I don't show in the labs is my lipids. They are BAD. BAD as in my doc put me on statins 3 years ago and I just did not tolerate them well so I quit and things have gotten worse. Statins also raise liver values. Turns out UDCA is also useful for improving lipid profiles particularly in populations that don't tolerate statins well. Lots of studies have shown a combination of UDCA + low dose statins is more effective than doubling the statin dose while also preventing the liver issues.

What this all means is this is probably my last blast for awhile. There are some health markers that have me, my doc, and some vets scratching our heads. So I'm going into the old man hormone replacement group for awhile after this until we can try and figure out what is going on. My doctor is telling me I have some genetic issues which are very likely, however the people to ask are dead. So. There you go.

TRT, Replacement GH, UDCA, statins, and probably some life style changes when I get a moment to breathe. My insurance changes and becomes much better in August when I can be on my wife/fiance's sponsored plan instead of this new bullshit the individual market has become over the last few years.

I promised my fiance I would try and live long enough to get sick of her shit.

 

[jerseydevil]

What this all means is this is probably my last blast for awhile. There are some health markers that have me, my doc, and some vets scratching our heads. So I'm going into the old man hormone replacement group for awhile after this until we can try and figure out what is going on. My doctor is telling me I have some genetic issues which are very likely, however the people to ask are dead. So. There you go.

TRT, Replacement GH, UDCA, statins, and probably some life style changes when I get a moment to breathe. My insurance changes and becomes much better in August when I can be on my wife/fiance's sponsored plan instead of this new bullshit the individual market has become over the last few years.

I promised my fiance I would try and live long enough to get sick of her shit.

LOL!

What do your hemoglobin, RDW, MCV, MCH and MCHC numbers look like? I remember you saying hemoglobin runs low or on the low side? Mine used to be borderline high, or over the threshold, but now even with abusing gear it runs low. RDW is constantly high, and MCV, MCH and MCHC all are low, which suggests alcohol induced anemia. Well I have all but quit drinking, but the numbers haven't changed at all and are still out of whack. My doc doesn't have a clue why???

 

[Intense]

Well you have now made me want to research udca.



Then maybe the aas gods will let me stay on drol year round <3

 

[JRotten]

LOL!

What do your hemoglobin, RDW, MCV, MCH and MCHC numbers look like? I remember you saying hemoglobin runs low or on the low side? Mine used to be borderline high, or over the threshold, but now even with abusing gear it runs low. RDW is constantly high, and MCV, MCH and MCHC all are low, which suggests alcohol induced anemia. Well I have all but quit drinking, but the numbers haven't changed at all and are still out of whack. My doc doesn't have a clue why???

I am identical and I have not had a drink of alcohol in 10 years. We need to talk.

 

[JRotten]

Well I got follow up labs drawn today... But i fucked yo and used labcorp instead of quest. What effect that has on igf and serum gh idk. My bad, but labs are better than no labs

 

[macedog24]

I do not believe using labcorp will affect the outcome of your scores for igf-1/ serum test. BUT we will see. Thanks again jr, you are the man .

 

[JRotten]

I do not believe using labcorp will affect the outcome of your scores for igf-1/ serum test. BUT we will see. Thanks again jr, you are the man .

The way they read based on reference range may be weird to compare

 

[JRotten]

Blood drawn about 3:45 after pinning 10iu in left delt. I was not perfect in pinning 3.3iu daily. I forgot a few times. Maybe 3 or 4 times in month leading up to it. Also I screwed up and used labcorp for the second test so the reference range is different.

 

[JRotten]

Any input?

 

[mbell4377]

Blood drawn about 3:45 after pinning 10iu in left delt. I was not perfect in pinning 3.3iu daily. I forgot a few times. Maybe 3 or 4 times in month leading up to it. Also I screwed up and used labcorp for the second test so the reference range is different.

What brand of gh?

 

[JRotten]

Eurotropin. So far I'm satisfied, but figured someone would have something to offer.

 

[s2h]

Any input?

Looks fine on the igf and gh serum...

 

[JRotten]

Looks fine on the igf and gh serum...

I thought so too. Mace was concerned about the results, but after talking to a few people
amd comparing where I was and where I am (2 different reference ranges) I think everything is going fine. T4 is still low so I'm supplementing with 75mcg. Will get labs again in a few months when I'm just back to trt and gh for a few months.

 

[s2h]

45 min over the 3 hour mark I would expect a little drop off...est 3 hour on the dot your 5-7 points higher....a guesstimating based off mine drop a decent amount over similar time frames..