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New ICE shooting video?

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I do always enjoy a spirited but respectful debate and appreciate you taking the time to engage in such a fashion.

To clarify, what I meant was that legally carrying a firearm in any context should not be punishable by death — even if it is at a protest, for which this guy was recently killed.

Though you did not say so explicitly, it appears implicit from your remarks that the guy who was shot got what he had coming. If that is not what you were saying, then I misunderstood. If it is what you are implying, then I restate that legally carrying a firearm is legal and that’s that. It is legal and should not be punished.

Also, just to be clear, I think that tacitly encouraging open borders and uncontrolled migration is a terrible policy. The fact that Democrats tacitly adopted this view is why they have suffered politically in recent years.

However, people protesting in favor of any policy — no matter how misguided — have a constitutional right to do so that is foundational to the Republic. Encouraging such protest is also constitutionally protected, and I can’t understand how it could be construed as treason.

Nobody is referring to peaceful protesters Sir. It’s the ones that are not peaceful using that constitutional right as a scapegoat to get away with their excessive behavior. Some are not getting away with the shit anymore. Again, “call it what it is”
I own 5 rifles, 4 shotguns, and 7 handguns so I support gun rights as much as anybody and am a responsible gun owner. I’ve had interactions with law enforcement when I’m carrying in my vehicle I let them know right away when I get pulled over. Being transparent and responsible is the way to avoid any danger especially during elevated situational emotions.

Having a weapon on you is your right but if you want to bring a gun with you while being apart of professional agitators against law endorsement officers then you are playing games with your life. If you were an officer and your life is threatened by someone defying law and order who possess a gun are you going to wait to be shot first? Having a gun on you and being compliant is a totally different story.
 
Well, telling people they should protest the government would fall squarely under first amendment protections. By that logic, Trump would be hung for encouraging protest of his “stolen election.” But I do understand the prevailing theory these days is that free speech does not apply to the left. Apparently the second amendment either, lol…

Not trying to argue, as you seem like a good guy, but unless everyone has free speech and gun rights, then they aren’t really rights…
We absolutely should have a rt to free speech and arms. What ICE is doing is what they're supposed to do to enforce immigration laws. Im not sure free speech is the same as interfering with a federal operation? We have a rt to peacefully protest and should. I don't understand how these activists aren't arrested. Next time you see a cop with someone pulled over, go involve yourself in that situation and see what happens. I don't understand how this is different. Walz and company belong behind bars for encouraging stupid people to break federal laws. I guess its a coincidence that since he's flaming the fire, nobody is talking about their little fraud issue
 
Nobody is referring to peaceful protesters Sir. It’s the ones that are not peaceful using that constitutional right as a scapegoat to get away with their excessive behavior. Some are not getting away with the shit anymore. Again, “call it what it is”
I own 5 rifles, 4 shotguns, and 7 handguns so I support gun rights as much as anybody and am a responsible gun owner. I’ve had interactions with law enforcement when I’m carrying in my vehicle I let them know right away when I get pulled over. Being transparent and responsible is the way to avoid any danger especially during elevated situational emotions.

Having a weapon on you is your right but if you want to bring a gun with you while being apart of professional agitators against law endorsement officers then you are playing games with your life. If you were an officer and your life is threatened by someone defying law and order who possess a gun are you going to wait to be shot first? Having a gun on you and being compliant is a totally different story.
carrying a gun to a potentially violent protest goes against basic common sense, but i would argue we need to avoid overly punishing a lack of common sense
 
Whenever I try to see something like that on Reddit, it says it needs age verification and then tries to get me to download the app, and I am old and confused and don’t feel like downloading more apps onto my already clogged phone
yeah that's why I couldn't post a link. I made a username on there to watch uncensored shit. Don't even bother. The amount of bullshit posted on there is unreal and will make your head spin and piss you off. When you made the thread, I said to myself the video got to be on there. I didn't even know about the incident. I cant stand the outside world. I don't know what's going on locally or global unless I read about it here. Im weird, I keep to myself so I don't have any social media accounts like Facebook or Instagram. I don't look at news or regular TV. Only thing I do on computer is go on this website and YouTube. Im a truck driver so I work alone too. I invested about 25 grand into my gym down in basement. Basically just pump iron, shoot steroids and eat. Every now and then I can convince my girlfriend to come over lol. Sorry for the novel. bored brother
 
carrying a gun to a potentially violent protest goes against basic common sense, but i would argue we need to avoid overly punishing a lack of common sense
carrying a gun while your city is having protests all over seems like a sensible thing to me. not sure about this guys politics but I believe he was trying to render aid to the woman, might be a accident I didnt see him reach for his gun. This is probably an accident due to the confusion of that moment
 
Nobody is referring to peaceful protesters Sir. It’s the ones that are not peaceful using that constitutional right as a scapegoat to get away with their excessive behavior. Some are not getting away with the shit anymore. Again, “call it what it is”
I own 5 rifles, 4 shotguns, and 7 handguns so I support gun rights as much as anybody and am a responsible gun owner. I’ve had interactions with law enforcement when I’m carrying in my vehicle I let them know right away when I get pulled over. Being transparent and responsible is the way to avoid any danger especially during elevated situational emotions.

Having a weapon on you is your right but if you want to bring a gun with you while being apart of professional agitators against law endorsement officers then you are playing games with your life. If you were an officer and your life is threatened by someone defying law and order who possess a gun are you going to wait to be shot first? Having a gun on you and being compliant is a totally different story.
This ^^

I own 9 firearms, I have the right to carry, however never in a million years would I go to something like this w/ a gun (or without) couldn't pay me enough to go to something that retarded) but not good all around. Brainless humans on both sides, agitating, fighting, etc. Agents getting their fingers bitten off, hit by cars and bricks, yeah, they are on edge. And the cult crying about it, are the cause. They want their sheep cult-members out there doing just that. Violence and civil unrest. Sheep are doing what they are told. Comical how brainless these low IQ "protesters" are.

Brainless Lib -> :laughat: <- Those w/ half-a-brain
 
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This piece of shit got fired from his job at the VA as a nurse for misconduct. He scrubbed/deleted all his social media and had no good intentions at these “protests.” He’s a fucking nurse; therefore, he has extensive training in life-saving measures and rendering aid. But instead of bringing a first-aid kit or even a tourniquet, he brought a gun (which I’m for—anyone practicing their constitutional right to carry).

Dumbass FAFO.

This whole thing is an absolute clusterfuck from both sides.
 
carrying a gun while your city is having protests all over seems like a sensible thing to me. not sure about this guys politics but I believe he was trying to render aid to the woman, might be a accident I didnt see him reach for his gun. This is probably an accident due to the confusion of that moment
Nah. He was just another dirtbag communist shit disturber. Several new videos out now showing him taunting and spitting at ICE a week before he was put down. He had a weapon then too, just tucked into his waistband. Also, carrying a weapon is presumably fine in MN as long as you are also carrying an ID, which he apparently wasn't. Lastly, the implied common sense task while carrying a weapon is to maintain extra discipline and not place yourself in direct conflict unless absolutely necessary. Anyway, the turd got flushed.
 
Nah. He was just another dirtbag communist shit disturber. Several new videos out now showing him taunting and spitting at ICE a week before he was put down. He had a weapon then too, just tucked into his waistband. Also, carrying a weapon is presumably fine in MN as long as you are also carrying an ID, which he apparently wasn't. Lastly, the implied common sense task while carrying a weapon is to maintain extra discipline and not place yourself in direct conflict unless absolutely necessary. Anyway, the turd got flushed.
A good commie is a dead commie.
 

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Stupid hypocrite cunt…fuck off! We who have true eyes can all see what kind of punk this guy was.

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Nah. He was just another dirtbag communist shit disturber. Several new videos out now showing him taunting and spitting at ICE a week before he was put down. He had a weapon then too, just tucked into his waistband. Also, carrying a weapon is presumably fine in MN as long as you are also carrying an ID, which he apparently wasn't. Lastly, the implied common sense task while carrying a weapon is to maintain extra discipline and not place yourself in direct conflict unless absolutely necessary. Anyway, the turd got flushed.

Very well said. Maybe he should have stuck to his day job as a "nurse" instead of harassing and fucking with federal law enforcement.
He's dead now, which is good. One less liberal waste of space causing problems.
 
carrying a gun to a potentially violent protest goes against basic common sense, but i would argue we need to avoid overly punishing a lack of common sense
You have morons like rat boy playing tough guy and sporting a pistol...........good job bro. Now you're fucking dead and people like me are making fun you :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
You have morons like rat boy playing tough guy and sporting a pistol...........good job bro. Now you're fucking dead and people like me are making fun you :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Making fun of me is your own prerogative, and it doesn’t particularly bother me as we are total strangers who have no idea of the other’s identity.

But I suspect that if a protester against Obama or Biden were killed under the exact same circumstances, you’d view the government’s actions through a very different lens.

I’m not arguing pro-Trump or anti-Trump, simply pro-Bill of Rights. It would appear many folks feel these fundamental constitutional rights only apply to those who share their politics. That applies to Trumpists and anti-Trumpists alike. Not much I can do about that, but it does not say much for the health of the Republic…
 
Making fun of me is your own prerogative, and it doesn’t particularly bother me as we are total strangers who have no idea of the other’s identity.

But I suspect that if a protester against Obama or Biden were killed under the exact same circumstances, you’d view the government’s actions through a very different lens.

I’m not arguing pro-Trump or anti-Trump, simply pro-Bill of Rights. It would appear many folks feel these fundamental constitutional rights only apply to those who share their politics. That applies to Trumpists and anti-Trumpists alike. Not much I can do about that, but it does not say much for the health of the Republic…
A country overrun with illegal aliens that are taking billions of tax payer money to transport them, house them, feed them, pay for their medical, and also pay for their children’s college isn’t also good for the Republic…doesn’t really matter if they are illegal with a prior criminal record or they simply walked into the country illegally, which to my knowledge of federal law make them people committing a crime, they all are a burden to America and Americans.
 
A country overrun with illegal aliens that are taking billions of tax payer money to transport them, house them, feed them, pay for their medical, and also pay for their children’s college isn’t also good for the Republic…doesn’t really matter if they are illegal with a prior criminal record or they simply walked into the country illegally, which to my knowledge of federal law make them people committing a crime, they all are a burden to America and Americans.
You make a decent point, but so do those people who argue that most of those illegals are economically indispensable to the agriculture, construction and hospitality industries. Both can be true at the same time — those industries are generally low-paid, which means we effectively subsidize the workers wages with food stamps and the like. Yes, it is a financial burden on tax payers, but that is how the economy has been structurally set up to keep wages low in those industries.

Will those wages go up and attract more Americans if a large number of illegals are deported? Quite possibly. But expect that will drive up prices for food, homes, hotels, etc. You can’t make labor more expensive and expect the farmers, construction companies and hotels will eat the cost out of the kindness of their hearts for consumers.

I’m not trying to persuade you the mass deportations are a bad idea — just pointing out the reality of economics.

In your case, you may believe the economic trade-offs are worth it, which is understandable.

However, people who don’t believe the mass deportations are economically justified — or morally justified, given that our economy basically recruited these people — are also entitled to their opinion.

It doesn’t make them traitors or guilty of sedition or worthy of prison or execution. The Constitution protects their right to protest and voice their views.

Do you have to agree with them? Nope. But I wish we could recognize that both sides can be loyal Americans rather than hating each other.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: It used to be Americans hated the Soviet communists or the Islamic terrorists, but now they don’t hate anyone more than their fellow Americans.

That is incredibly dangerous and damaging to the Republic — much more than any individual policy…
 
Nah. He was just another dirtbag communist shit disturber. Several new videos out now showing him taunting and spitting at ICE a week before he was put down. He had a weapon then too, just tucked into his waistband. Also, carrying a weapon is presumably fine in MN as long as you are also carrying an ID, which he apparently wasn't. Lastly, the implied common sense task while carrying a weapon is to maintain extra discipline and not place yourself in direct conflict unless absolutely necessary. Anyway, the turd got flushed.
my statement was made early before any details were known. I started carrying daily after all the protests started, seems like in LA a protest can pop up anywhere and Im not gonna be a victim
 
my statement was made early before any details were known. I started carrying daily after all the protests started, seems like in LA a protest can pop up anywhere and Im not gonna be a victim
Some of the second amendment groups are apparently pissed at Trump and company for saying people should not be armed at protests — their argument is if it’s legal for a person to carry a firearm, then they should not be punished for it. Nice to see that some folks at least still have some principles they stick to, regardless of the circumstances…
 
This is propaganda.. pure and simple. It’s engineered to make you hate ICE. Activists are paid to harass agents, provoke confrontations, and film nonstop until something breaks. That’s the entire operation.

The second there’s an incident, it’s wall-to-wall coverage with zero context. Then the facts come out, the narrative collapses, and it vanishes. No corrections. No accountability. Just on to the next manufactured outrage.
 
Oh, what do we have here??

Liberals:
ICE = BAD/EVIL

ILLEGAL MIGRANT SEXUAL PREDATOR = GOOD / VICTIM

Stupid liberals assaulting federal agents.......fuck them. Could care less if they get hurt or killed. Hey, you fucking liberal idiots, don't assault armed federal agents and maybe you won't get hurt.
:ROFLMAO: 🤡🤡

Liberals want this illegal degenerate scum to walk free in your neighborhoods. If any of you are fathers and support this, please go chop your dick off and do not procreate again.

ICE agents chase down migrant sex predator after judge allows him to stroll out of NYC courthouse​


 

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