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I fucking hate everybody. Doesn’t matter what race they are. Doesn’t matter what stupid gender they’ve chosen, I don’t care if they are gay or straight. If they are a Man or a woman. Don’t care about any of that shit. If your walking on this planet I fucking hate you!!!

Thank you for your time…..🖕
damn who shit in your toilet and didnt flush
 
I think you’re on the right track with a lot of what you’re saying, but have to object to the characterization of death as an „unending black void.” I mean, it might be, but in reality it’s far more likely to be true nothingness — the exact type we experience (or rather, didn’t experience) before we were born.

Now, I am not saying that to encourage anyone to commit suicide. But the way I see it, being dead is going to be just like it was during the War of 1812 or the Roman conquest of Gaul: I was totally unaware of it, and thus didn’t know or care what I was missing.

I do get anxious about the process of dying if it involves something like drowning or getting burned alive in a fire. But actually being dead? I don’t think it’s anything to worry about.
I think a lot of people have been conditioned to believe that there is either eternal pain or pleasure, and to reject the notion that its just nothing. People cling to a religion in an attempt to get to the eternal happy place and spend the only life they know for sure, preparing for something that there is zero proof of. The really sad part about that is they believe that no matter what they do, so long as they convince others they have accepted the god dejour that they have accepted it into their hearts and they get all their shitty behaviour wiped away, while the people that harmed through out life continue to suffer. I would rather spend what time I have not being a dick to others, and when my time is over here, either by my own choosing, my body failing or being run over by a bus, I will go where I go without regret. 2 times in the last year I was basically dead and while laying there in the hospital I was comfortable in my life's decisions and not fearful of amy deity picking and choosing my good and bad actions and calculating them on some cosmic sized abacus. I never once thought about what's next, just that it's going to come, or that I should accept some deity as my saviour. We need to start allowing people the right to self determination, just as we do with respect to AAS's, and to remove the stigma from it. 90% of the time its attempted for attention, if we can remove that need for such a drastic cry, perhaps people will feel more comfortable reaching out when they need help. I keep going off topic...
 
I think you’re on the right track with a lot of what you’re saying, but have to object to the characterization of death as an „unending black void.” I mean, it might be, but in reality it’s far more likely to be true nothingness — the exact type we experience (or rather, didn’t experience) before we were born.

Now, I am not saying that to encourage anyone to commit suicide. But the way I see it, being dead is going to be just like it was during the War of 1812 or the Roman conquest of Gaul: I was totally unaware of it, and thus didn’t know or care what I was missing.

I do get anxious about the process of dying if it involves something like drowning or getting burned alive in a fire. But actually being dead? I don’t think it’s anything to worry about.
I fully agree with you..."true nothingness" and "black void" seem fairly similar to me lol I just meant its our 1 time to experience life, and cutting it short is never the answer.
 
and cutting it short is never the answer.
Why? I am NOT trying to be argumentative, I ask a lot of folks and they never have an answer I find acceptable. It's always about others, and or a religious belief. I could never look at someone that was saying to me that they wanted a better existence and was going to move to BFE and see if it was better, and tell them they cant go because it's the easy way out and they should find their way here. I couldn't live with myself knowing I guilted someone into not pursuing a goal - whatever it may be - because I didn't want to miss them and I'd be sad. What position does the person self determining get in this? I should start a new thread...
 
I think a lot of people have been conditioned to believe that there is either eternal pain or pleasure, and to reject the notion that its just nothing. People cling to a religion in an attempt to get to the eternal happy place and spend the only life they know for sure, preparing for something that there is zero proof of. The really sad part about that is they believe that no matter what they do, so long as they convince others they have accepted the god dejour that they have accepted it into their hearts and they get all their shitty behaviour wiped away, while the people that harmed through out life continue to suffer. I would rather spend what time I have not being a dick to others, and when my time is over here, either by my own choosing, my body failing or being run over by a bus, I will go where I go without regret. 2 times in the last year I was basically dead and while laying there in the hospital I was comfortable in my life's decisions and not fearful of amy deity picking and choosing my good and bad actions and calculating them on some cosmic sized abacus. I never once thought about what's next, just that it's going to come, or that I should accept some deity as my saviour. We need to start allowing people the right to self determination, just as we do with respect to AAS's, and to remove the stigma from it. 90% of the time its attempted for attention, if we can remove that need for such a drastic cry, perhaps people will feel more comfortable reaching out when they need help. I keep going off topic...

"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."
— Book of Daniel 12:2 (KJV)

The dead know nothing
"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing..."
— Ecclesiastes 9:5 (KJV)

"Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest."
— Ecclesiastes 9:10 (KJV)

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout... and the dead in Christ shall rise first."
— First Epistle to the Thessalonians 4:16 (KJV)

Christians believe they will be judged when they die, but the bible many times has said that the dead are dead, they don't see or feel, they dont know whats happening and they await Jesus' return. So even if you believe in it, youre still having quite the long wait in the Void before judgement day. I dont post this to offend anyone's religion. Its just my own interpretation I dont agree or disagree with anyone's religious beliefs. Its just to drive home my point of 1 life to live, so live it to the fullest extent.
 
Why? I am NOT trying to be argumentative, I ask a lot of folks and they never have an answer I find acceptable. It's always about others, and or a religious belief. I could never look at someone that was saying to me that they wanted a better existence and was going to move to BFE and see if it was better, and tell them they cant go because it's the easy way out and they should find their way here. I couldn't live with myself knowing I guilted someone into not pursuing a goal - whatever it may be - because I didn't want to miss them and I'd be sad. What position does the person self determining get in this? I should start a new thread...
Ok then why breathe? Why eat? Youre asking me to justify living...you just SHOULD. Because its better than the alternative. Youre a lifeform genetically predisposed to protect your life and pass on your genes because its the goal of life itself. You think youre asking a grand existential question but its not. No offense. Look at animals, all of them are ingrained with a fierce sense of self preservation. Its what makes their bloodline successful. Do you think your ancestors fought wars, famine, plague, every trial amd tribulation they battled through just so you could have an existential crisis and forget the point of living altogether? If for no other reason, live so not to offend the family members who fought through what they did to land you in the greatest country on earth, with successful enough genetics to live comfortably enough to even have time to ponder this shit. Lol love you bro, its just a conversation I mean no hate. Keep in mind, while youre having these thoughts on WHY to live, there are children dying of war, hunger, cancer etc etc who would give anything to be in your position. You should value your life. Its the rarest thing in the known universe and you happen to have it.
 
You think youre asking a grand existential question but its not.
Nope, I don't have visions of grandeur here, just trying to figure out the why? You bring up animales, unthinking animals to compare myself to. You fell into the exact same thing everyone else that tries to answer the question does. BECAUSE you just SHOULD. You also stated its better than the alternative, to whom and who do you know? There could be hookers and blow for miles on the other side. But seriously why do people fee the need to force their beliefs onto others? What harm comes to you or the mailman if I make the choice to leave this plain? It would be the exact same thing as me moving and getting off the internet. My mail person would say, hmm he's not here anymore and you would say, hmm he must have found a better forum to visit. Where is the harm to others if someone offs themselves? Why is it just because, None of my ancestors fought to land me anywhere, they could never have know of my existence, and why do I owe them something? I in no way shape of form think for a second that my kids or grandkids owe me a second thought when making choices for themselves or family. If I would then I wasn't doing it for them I was doing it for me. I gave them the best start in life I could possibly give, it's their turn to run with it, however they see fit. You bring up all the horrible things that go on in the world at the end of a post stating that this life is the best thing in the universe, except for the kids and women being raped, murdered, starved. Old infirm folks suffering for years on end because they no longer have the strength to do anything about it, but can't afford food and lose their home because they cant pay the taxes. Kids being bombed over some wackos religious notion of land ownership. What exactly is so awesome that wanting to see the other side is considered so wrong? Why SHOULD someone be forced to remain in a situation where they no longer fit? Should someone suffer a pathetic life full of darkness and despair because some kid in Africa is hungry? If so then why are we not doing more to feed that kid? If someone who has suffered 45+ years of torment and pain should be forced to live because someone else has cancer, should we not put more effort into curing it? When is enough enough in you mind to allow someone to self determine? I do enjoy the conversation and I felt zero hate toward me as I hope I have conveyed to you. It just been over the last couple years that I started seeing things differently and have been really struggling with a simple question. Perhaps the thing that is driving me toward the exit door is the same thing that is not allowing me to see a different view... Like I said I'm asking questions because I'm genuinely interested in answers, not forcing my beliefs. If I change a few minds in the process, bonus but not my goal.
 
Nope, I don't have visions of grandeur here, just trying to figure out the why? You bring up animales, unthinking animals to compare myself to. You fell into the exact same thing everyone else that tries to answer the question does. BECAUSE you just SHOULD. You also stated its better than the alternative, to whom and who do you know? There could be hookers and blow for miles on the other side. But seriously why do people fee the need to force their beliefs onto others? What harm comes to you or the mailman if I make the choice to leave this plain? It would be the exact same thing as me moving and getting off the internet. My mail person would say, hmm he's not here anymore and you would say, hmm he must have found a better forum to visit. Where is the harm to others if someone offs themselves? Why is it just because, None of my ancestors fought to land me anywhere, they could never have know of my existence, and why do I owe them something? I in no way shape of form think for a second that my kids or grandkids owe me a second thought when making choices for themselves or family. If I would then I wasn't doing it for them I was doing it for me. I gave them the best start in life I could possibly give, it's their turn to run with it, however they see fit. You bring up all the horrible things that go on in the world at the end of a post stating that this life is the best thing in the universe, except for the kids and women being raped, murdered, starved. Old infirm folks suffering for years on end because they no longer have the strength to do anything about it, but can't afford food and lose their home because they cant pay the taxes. Kids being bombed over some wackos religious notion of land ownership. What exactly is so awesome that wanting to see the other side is considered so wrong? Why SHOULD someone be forced to remain in a situation where they no longer fit? Should someone suffer a pathetic life full of darkness and despair because some kid in Africa is hungry? If so then why are we not doing more to feed that kid? If someone who has suffered 45+ years of torment and pain should be forced to live because someone else has cancer, should we not put more effort into curing it? When is enough enough in you mind to allow someone to self determine? I do enjoy the conversation and I felt zero hate toward me as I hope I have conveyed to you. It just been over the last couple years that I started seeing things differently and have been really struggling with a simple question. Perhaps the thing that is driving me toward the exit door is the same thing that is not allowing me to see a different view... Like I said I'm asking questions because I'm genuinely interested in answers, not forcing my beliefs. If I change a few minds in the process, bonus but not my goal.
We are just gonna have to agree to disagree. Have a good day brother. Wish you the best.
 
By the way, @AR-15 is easily my favorite dude on this forum, and clearly a lot of other people like you here, so it’s obvious you fit in somewhere! Even if it is with other misfits…
WOO HOO!!! All you haters better recognize!!! See people like me!!! I know it’s not good when I can only get along with a small number of weirdos on the internet but in my mind that’s just me keeping my inner circle small. lol

It’s like when I played baseball in college (yes assholes I went to college for a brief period.) and guys would always ask me why I didn’t train legs. I told them I didn’t want to ruin my speed. lol In my mind that was true but only because my legs were usually too bruised up to lift and I was a pussy.
 
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Sounds like there are a lot of introverts on here. Myself included.

I have very few next to no “friends” even tho I would consider myself a good guy. And friendly.

It just seems like a lot of work maintaining friendships. lol.

Plus, I don’t seem to connect on that level where I’m invited over for a beer.

Usually my girl in my life is my best friend. But that sucks bc whenever there’s a breakup I lose my girl and best friend.

Perhaps that’s why we love the gym? Training? Bc it’s so individualized.

You can be in your own head and work on yourself for yourself.

There are ppl who have big circles of friends etc.

It’s not me. Maybe it’s a trust thing. Be able to be open and vulnerable.

Idk
Fucking eh' dude you just enlightened me more about myself than 20 years of therapy ever did. Thank You! 💪
 
You might be onto something. I actually posted that so I could get some opinions from the super dads here and pretty much all of you are fucked yo just like me. Bunch of anti social assholes!!! That’s why I like you guys. lol
AR got damn man you all right? You hitten dat tren 2 hard brother?
 
Btw thanks to everyone who replied and continues to. Weird how my retarded brain can spark a pretty cool and interesting discussion.

This btw is usually when @heckler7 decides to drop in and drop one of his patented “Thread Bombs” and gets everyone fighting lol

He’s calmed down over the past year but that use to be that motherfuckers thing. He would wait in the shadows and watch a thread that had the potential to go either way. Either it’s was gonna be a nice conversation or a full out fight among everyone.
That fucker would suddenly appear and drop a response that 100% guaranteed a full out brawl. Then he’d disappear a few days and reappear just to look at the carnage he spawned. He’s the Thread Bomb GOAT in my book. Lol
 
AR got damn man you all right? You hitten dat tren 2 hard brother?
No Sir. Just trying to navigate my way through parenthood without fucking it up too bad.
I fucked up a career and a marriage I’m really trying to avoid fucking up my kids too. That’s why I value every opinion I get here.
 
Dude, more than a fair share of us (myself included) have gone keyboard crazy on the steroid forums now and then lol it comes with the fucking territory, well for us fellow man children that are here ( 99 % of us except maybe fucking Ketchup Mr. real Grown Up LOL love you dude ). All will probably be forgiven, all will certainly be forgotten, soon enough. Take care of yourself brother, reach out if needed, keep on keeping on. 💪
 
I fucking hate everybody. Doesn’t matter what race they are. Doesn’t matter what stupid gender they’ve chosen, I don’t care if they are gay or straight. If they are a Man or a woman. Don’t care about any of that shit. If your walking on this planet I fucking hate you!!!

Thank you for your time…..🖕
Well I love you, buddy
 
Sorry man. I’m weening my way off meds. It’s a process. Lol

Maybe tomorrow I’ll wake up and suddenly love everyone. Who knows but if I do I’m killing myself straight up. Lol
Idk what’s going on man but you’ll get through it. You’re a tough dude. Tougher than me and most on this board for sure. You got a lot of people pulling for you.
 
No Sir. Just trying to navigate my way through parenthood without fucking it up too bad.
I fucked up a career and a marriage I’m really trying to avoid fucking up my kids too. That’s why I value every opinion I get here.
I think most of us have fucked up parts of our lives. It's part of the human experience. It's what you do after that matters. Sounds like your main goal is to have your kids be better than you and have a better life. My goal is the same. It's the best we can do.
 
Idk what’s going on man but you’ll get through it. You’re a tough dude. Tougher than me and most on this board for sure. You got a lot of people pulling for you.
Not really going through anything brother it’s just me having no confidence as a parent. I respect a lot of guys here so their opinions and life experiences mean a lot to me so I’m not above posting a question or a situation where I could use a little help navigating through even when it makes me look like a whiney cunt or a dumbass.

I came from a fucked up family grew up in a fucked up situation so my confidence level is like a zero when it comes to life. Put me in a cage or ring and I’m confident enough to know I can bang with anyone but take me out of the ring and I’m a fucking baby. I do ok winging it usually but every once in awhile I overthink shit and it gets to me. Weird but this is a safe place for me to let down my hair and be real about shit I probably could never ask someone in person. Don’t have anyone to ask in person anyway. Well I do but she’s like $200 an hour. Lol
 
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Not really going through anything brother it’s just me having no confidence as a parent. I respect a lot of guys here so their opinions and life experiences mean a lot to me so I’m not above posting a question or a situation where I could use a little help navigating through even when it makes me look like a whiney cunt or a dumbass.

I came from a fucked up family grew up in a fucked up situation so my confidence level is like a zero when it comes to life. Put me in a cage or ring and I’m confident enough to know I can bang with anyone but take me out of the ring and I’m a fucking baby. I do ok winging it usually but every once in awhile I overthink shit and it gets to me. Weird but this is a safe place for me to let down my hair and be real about shit I probably could never ask someone in person. Don’t have anyone to ask in person anyway. Well I do but she’s like $200 an hour. Lol
Idk man, I don’t have children but I’d say the fact that you’re in your kids lives and you’re worried about screwing things up with them puts you ahead of most parents by default. You don’t have to be perfect, you just have to be there
 
Not really going through anything brother it’s just me having no confidence as a parent. I respect a lot of guys here so their opinions and life experiences mean a lot to me so I’m not above posting a question or a situation where I could use a little help navigating through even when it makes me look like a whiney cunt or a dumbass.

I came from a fucked up family grew up in a fucked up situation so my confidence level is like a zero when it comes to life. Put me in a cage or ring and I’m confident enough to know I can bang with anyone but take me out of the ring and I’m a fucking baby. I do ok winging it usually but every once in awhile I overthink shit and it gets to me. Weird but this is a safe place for me to let down my hair and be real about shit I probably could never ask someone in person. Don’t have anyone to ask in person anyway. Well I do but she’s like $200 an hour. Lol
you should read Epictetus, any book will do, he was born a slave and became a philosopher, John McCain said it helped him survive 6 years as a POW.

"It is not events that disturb people, but it is their judgments and assumptions about events."
 
Lord this mfer is cryin about shit again. Dude is just a bitch. Plain and simple. Youve cried on this board for years. I leave a while back, he was cryin. Come back after a couple years hes STILL god damn crying. This mfer squats to piss. 😭
 
Lord this mfer is cryin about shit again. Dude is just a bitch. Plain and simple. Youve cried on this board for years. I leave a while back, he was cryin. Come back after a couple years hes STILL god damn crying. This mfer squats to piss.

You have 15 posts. And a member since June.

You talk as a veteran member.

Post is older than your membership I think. lol.

Anyway, thx for contributing and adding to the quality of the thread. lol.
 
You have 15 posts. And a member since June.

You talk as a veteran member.

Post is older than your membership I think. lol.

Anyway, thx for contributing and adding to the quality of the thread. lol.
I am a veteran member. Been around since day 11
 

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