Boykinben82
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You better send one to this guy or your nextSo much dick talk..f it I be back going take a pic
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You better send one to this guy or your nextSo much dick talk..f it I be back going take a pic
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The input is appreciated, but this clown always post bs tests from different places. I think he alters the form himself. So I ignore anything he posts.Okay here's my worthless 2c.
I don't think it's a big deal something underdoses. All vendor has to do is replace. No big deal it happens.
from what I've seen everything gets underdosed once in a while. I do find it suspicious this guy constantly gets under dosed stuff however.
I've known jano for awhile and I don't see him holding a grudge at all.
And if he was pay to play then all the guys getting under dosed would have evidence or dms of being pay to play.
I don't see it and I'm part of a group that tests stuff with him constantly him and mz and we've gotten stuff back testing from both with samples sent from the same batch and they come back identical or nearly.
I would agree except this "guy" is a schill account that shows up a few times a year to start dumpster fires.Okay here's my worthless 2c.
I don't think it's a big deal something underdoses. All vendor has to do is replace. No big deal it happens.
from what I've seen everything gets underdosed once in a while. I do find it suspicious this guy constantly gets under dosed stuff however.
I've known jano for awhile and I don't see him holding a grudge at all.
And if he was pay to play then all the guys getting under dosed would have evidence or dms of being pay to play.
I don't see it and I'm part of a group that tests stuff with him constantly him and mz and we've gotten stuff back testing from both with samples sent from the same batch and they come back identical or nearly.
Random factoid (because it's in my brain, and this seems like a good place to deposit it):Call me crazy but if I had one tab come out at 16mg and another one at 20 Iโd be ok that. Iโd be averaging 18mg of real primo. I mean even Pharma grade tabs come back sometimes 2 or 3 mgs different.
Their sdrol is the truthโฆ no test needed.The Auctus tren a? Definitely real. Trust me.
yep, proof right there. Well underdosed. Fletcher has no meat on his finger tips. this is really fucked up...
i just saw this recently with tirzepatide and semaglutide. a vendor mislabeled tirzepatide and sent semaglutide.Alot of people are missing a major point here. Pill pressers are not always 100% and capping machines are even worse and in no way am I making an excuse for this brand bc truth be told I have never once dealt with them.
It's very unfair that a good rep gets blamed for a manufacturing defect. The best a rep can do is offer good customer service, resolve issues and request as many lab tests as they can get their hands on.
The community testing supersedes even that.
Let's say I have a batch of Cialis. And we just capped 20,000 pills. Does anyone think they will all be exactly the same? In general we can aim for a solid lets say 10% variance or less.
Depending on the machines, depending on the maintenance, etc.
It doesn't mean it's intentional
But you pay big bucks right? And I agree
Well then the solution is to get a script. Those FDA approved labs are more maintained and monitored and tested (generally speaking)
What should happen here, is if that test is deemed legit by the OP. And it very well might be. The brand should be sending him a replacement.
BC listen shit does happen.
I may have been a rep for brands here for longer then anyone. 20+ years. And I prob have a 99.9% success rate, but don't be fooled and think my brands haven't had the occassional glitch, bc they do.
It's how you handle it after the fact
The other thing is
There is some weird concept in our Community, that if one test comes back bad or off, they all are. And that is as foolish as thinking one good test means they all are good.
Consistency, feedback, random testing and reviews are the BEST we can offer as a community.
There is no exact science. Even Big Pharma and pharmaceuticals have issues. I think it's something like 1 in 800 people die from certain lab produced medications per year due to error
That's pretty fucking high.
The worst case here is that you get a tiny bit of less muscle.
I personally appreciate any and all lab testing but it's like doing blood work. It is ONE photo of a certain product, time and day and doesn't represent everything.
Although I do agree that good brands usually test consistently high. That is a fact and something to search for.
Even good people rep for brands that make errors. Once a brand I work for accidentally labeled Arim as Exem and it was found based on a lab. I had the brand eliminate the entire batch, we resent the customer the right thing and people still bitched.
Buying OTC products or UG products on a bodybuilding forum will never be an exact science, but it is wise to make it as close as humanly possible.
So long as it didn't test out for DNP or some dangerous compound. Fix the issue, check the rest of the batch at random and move on. Am I wrong?
Common Problems in Tablet Compression
There are a number of common problems when making tablets or pills. In this article from LFA Machines we talk about them and the best ways to over come them.www.lfatabletpresses.com
Exactly why you will NEVER see me rep for something like CLEN or DNPi just saw this recently with tirzepatide and semaglutide. a vendor mislabeled tirzepatide and sent semaglutide.
caught via testing. If someone would have taken 5 or 10mg of sema sheeesh bad week for sure.
Last time this happened with this muppet, it was the same thing.
He glorifies one sponsor while bashing others.
Then disappears.
Last time he tested 4 labs, SB glorified, FT, Moster & Azteca got smeared.
Once again, per his recent posts, glorifying SB, bashing others.
He seems to focus on whatever brand Im running and always gets it wrong, H&B sells Auctus, they dont make Auctus, and they clearly had the same Jano tests done prior to selling Auctus.
GearPro sells Auctus Primo tabs too, yet he didnt mention them? Or order from them?
Or order from ANYBODY ELSE that sells primo, nope just the company I work for.
Pretty obvious the guy has an agenda.
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Yeah, this guys history aside, the test still came back +/- 10% and for the compound it's supposed to be. Looks good to go to me, especially being primo tabs.Alot of people are missing a major point here. Pill pressers are not always 100% and capping machines are even worse and in no way am I making an excuse for this brand bc truth be told I have never once dealt with them.
It's very unfair that a good rep gets blamed for a manufacturing defect. The best a rep can do is offer good customer service, resolve issues and request as many lab tests as they can get their hands on.
The community testing supersedes even that.
Let's say I have a batch of Cialis. And we just capped 20,000 pills. Does anyone think they will all be exactly the same? In general we can aim for a solid lets say 10% variance or less.
Depending on the machines, depending on the maintenance, etc.
It doesn't mean it's intentional
But you pay big bucks right? And I agree
Well then the solution is to get a script. Those FDA approved labs are more maintained and monitored and tested (generally speaking)
What should happen here, is if that test is deemed legit by the OP. And it very well might be. The brand should be sending him a replacement.
BC listen shit does happen.
I may have been a rep for brands here for longer then anyone. 20+ years. And I prob have a 99.9% success rate, but don't be fooled and think my brands haven't had the occassional glitch, bc they do.
It's how you handle it after the fact
The other thing is
There is some weird concept in our Community, that if one test comes back bad or off, they all are. And that is as foolish as thinking one good test means they all are good.
Consistency, feedback, random testing and reviews are the BEST we can offer as a community.
There is no exact science. Even Big Pharma and pharmaceuticals have issues. I think it's something like 1 in 800 people die from certain lab produced medications per year due to error
That's pretty fucking high.
The worst case here is that you get a tiny bit of less muscle.
I personally appreciate any and all lab testing but it's like doing blood work. It is ONE photo of a certain product, time and day and doesn't represent everything.
Although I do agree that good brands usually test consistently high. That is a fact and something to search for.
Even good people rep for brands that make errors. Once a brand I work for accidentally labeled Arim as Exem and it was found based on a lab. I had the brand eliminate the entire batch, we resent the customer the right thing and people still bitched.
Buying OTC products or UG products on a bodybuilding forum will never be an exact science, but it is wise to make it as close as humanly possible.
So long as it didn't test out for DNP or some dangerous compound. Fix the issue, check the rest of the batch at random and move on. Am I wrong?
Common Problems in Tablet Compression
There are a number of common problems when making tablets or pills. In this article from LFA Machines we talk about them and the best ways to over come them.www.lfatabletpresses.com
I'd like to reiterate that we have no connection to this individual.
Despite his evaluations of multiple labs, our results emerged as the best.
Our primary focus is delivering a service, without engaging in conflicts or rumors. I felt it was important to communicate this.
Thank you for your understanding.
I know its not coming from you guys. Hes not helping anybody either way with his non-sense.I'd like to reiterate that we have no connection to this individual.
Despite his evaluations of multiple labs, our results emerged as the best.
Our primary focus is delivering a service, without engaging in conflicts or rumors. I felt it was important to communicate this.
Thank you for your understanding.
Idk if you remember, he pulled this same shit last year.Exactly why you will NEVER see me rep for something like CLEN or DNP
The risk of error in those can be fatal. I don't want that on my conscious and even with good lab testing people are idiots.
My own good friend is a fucking moron. He got some clen and asked me how to take it. I said start with 20mcgs. He calls me hours later and says I am in the ER. I took 2ccs
I said that is 400mcgs, are you fucking kidding me.
Even though I explained it in full 3-4x.
Same kid ended up taking 120mcgs of IGF1lr3 and passing out for 2 hours, which is usually just short of going into a coma.
The good thing is a lower dose of Primo is safe and just needs to be replaced.
I love Primo tabs. It's good stuff. The price is a bit outrageous so I can see why the OP is upset. H&B you getting this man a new pack?
No worries, I posted his activity to prove a point. SB has done nothing except provide good products from what I see. I already had a convo with Onidus about this.@Fletcher, at SB Labs, we're committed to giving you that extra edge. It's one of the perks of choosing us
While one of our Var batches tested at 22.7 instead of the intended 25mgs by Jano, we diligently test to minimize such instances. We aren't perfect.
Nonetheless, we'd prefer not to be part of this situation. If you could kindly refrain from mentioning our lab, we'd greatly appreciate it, my friend.
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you should run some sb and see what he doesNo worries, I posted his activity to prove a point. SB has done nothing except provide good products from what I see. I already had a convo with Onidus about this.
Thats a funny ideayou should run some sb and see what he does
just run them all all the vendors
i got some stuff i can sell test me too
I spoke to SB himself last year when this same profile did this, we both agreed that he was trying to sabotage FT, AZ, & Monster... and frame SB by making it look like it was coming from them.@Fletcher, at SB Labs, we're committed to giving you that extra edge. It's one of the perks of choosing us
While one of our Var batches tested at 22.7 instead of the intended 25mgs by Jano, we diligently test to minimize such instances. We aren't perfect.
Nonetheless, we'd prefer not to be part of this situation. If you could kindly refrain from mentioning our lab, we'd greatly appreciate it, my friend.
Respectfully![]()
Offer him a replacement .Idk if you remember, he pulled this same shit last year.
He doesnt run gear. There is no he.
This profile comes out of nowhere every so often and posts testing.
He didnt ask for replacements last year or this time bc he isnt interested in the gear, the profile exists purely for scammy shit like this.
If he was a REAL member, a REAL person, and ACTUALLY bought gear to USE... then yeah, Id be all for a replacement.
Thats not the case here and anyone who saw last year's thread knows that.
He did the same shit, lights a fire and runs. Never comes back to defend himself, never asks for replacements or refunds. Not a real person.
I ended up argueing with Jmano for like a week straight last time and the OP never posted a single reply to that whole thread.
Fuck whomever is running that account.