HGH Question

[Bathman316]

How long between lowering your dose and getting the IGF test done? I’ve read it can take several weeks for IGF to return to “baseline”.

Bloodwork 8 weeks apart

 

[Wardamn]

Anyone traverse north of 4 ius with no blood glucose issues? I’ve been on 4 units daily for about a month and a half and would like bump it up to 5 or 6 units. Worried about the insulin resistance even though I pin it before bed.

Yes, I have no BG issues at 5 and 6 IUs.

 

[Bigdaddyjak]

Anyone traverse north of 4 ius with no blood glucose issues? I’ve been on 4 units daily for about a month and a half and would like bump it up to 5 or 6 units. Worried about the insulin resistance even though I pin it before bed.

You can get a blood glucose kit for $15 on Amazon .

 

[McPriimate]

I've been on Four Units IL GH up until February. At that time, my IGF – 1 level was 525. I recently lowered to 2iu but still have an IGF-1 level of 519. I'm Definitely a high responder, anyone else experience this?

I'm going to lower to 1iu to try to get my levels to 400–450. My E2 was 46, my total t was 650. Other than a high hematocrit 54, my blood work is amazing. All IL test cyp and orange top puretropin. @ironlion

Could be that it’s dosed higher as well (my current black tops tested at 24iU for the 20iU labeled product - have another batch otw but no testing on those yet).

Same token, when I ran 4iU IL GH as tested (so 4/24ths of a vial) averaging 5 nights a week I had IGF-1 in the high 400’s. I’m rock steady around 160 baseline, so definitely responded well, and I think it’s a high quality product.

On 6iU a night from a disgraced and former supplier here (it was my first foray into GH and I picked soooo wrong wrt a supplier to “just try it out” - lesson learned), I only got to low 300 level by comparison. Since then while I do have some Genotropin, I’ve only run IL blacktops for GH, so can’t comment on results compared to other vendors.


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[McPriimate]

Anyone traverse north of 4 ius with no blood glucose issues? I’ve been on 4 units daily for about a month and a half and would like bump it up to 5 or 6 units. Worried about the insulin resistance even though I pin it before bed.

My morning, fasted BG went up close to 10 points when going north of 2iU and up to 6 (the highest I’ve run due to CTS, which kinda suuuucks). My A1C has been fairly steady at 4.7-5.0 on 4-6iU and CGM readings show my BG control is excellent with effectively no excursions north of like 120 at the absolute (and infrequent) highest. So seems it’s affected my fasted morning levels but not my daily trace/average or max excursions. Honestly not sure the rise in morning BG matters if the rest remains solid and you’re at least within normal limits (my higher results are still WNL - like 90-92 when it used to be 80-82). Not medical advice and YMMV!


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[elit3keraed]

My morning, fasted BG went up close to 10 points when going north of 2iU and up to 6 (the highest I’ve run due to CTS, which kinda suuuucks). My A1C has been fairly steady at 4.7-5.0 on 4-6iU and CGM readings show my BG control is excellent with effectively no excursions north of like 120 at the absolute (and infrequent) highest. So seems it’s affected my fasted morning levels but not my daily trace/average or max excursions. Honestly not sure the rise in morning BG matters if the rest remains solid and you’re at least within normal limits (my higher results are still WNL - like 90-92 when it used to be 80-82). Not medical advice and YMMV!


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IMO elevated morning levels wouldn’t be as big of a concern IF your levels through the day were fine. Because if you’re dosing it all at night before bed then for those several hours at HGH is active. Your body is not processing the blood sugar, so it would make sense to be a little elevated upon waking since the growth has been active throughout your sleep. But once it breaks down, ideally it would return back to normal. But if it was staying elevated all day long, that’s a concern. Sort of like how it’s fine for your blood sugar to spike after a meal, but it’s not fine for it to stay elevated all day long.

Problem is most people don’t spend all day checking their blood sugar. They’ll just take a morning reading and go from there. There’s been a few times after a bad night sleep where I wake up with my blood sugar in the high 90s but by mid afternoon it’s in the low 80s and that’s without any sort of HGH.

 

[Johnm15923]

You're taking a replacement dosage. Don't expect extreme changes.

Yeah I'm 40, not expecting a lot just want replacement dosages. Something to help with sleep and recovery

 

[Bigjape34]

There are many legitimate companies with testing to back that provide amazing quality GH for prices we’ve never seen. There’s this stigma around GH etc. now sure you give me a sero there will be a difference but in today’s age many affordable GH options palumno is an idiot

 

[Knarfster]

I spend a lot less than 200/100iu and my IGF more than doubled in my bloodwork taking 2iu/day. I think the gold standard test is 10iu 3 hours before being tested. Im 4 months in and havent noticed the effects. I recently doubled it to 4iu. I will say that guys selling it are not making it in their GMP fill rooms in their basement. They are getting it from where I am getting it and that is Hong Kong. On average its 60/100iu but I get 240iu kits now for the savings which is on average is 120/240iu. 360iu kits are available too but you dont save any money. Id probably do that if I was running 10iu/day. Peptides do deteriorate over time after being reconstituted. It happens to my HCG. About 3 weeks in, I need to up the dose, and by the end of the bottle I am taking .15cc vs .1cc at the beginning. Janoshik testing is always an option but thats $300 a pop. Ive been getting gear direct from source for a year now and dont believe that I ever received anything that I didnt order. I have a source in big pharna that works in a division that tests "compounding pharmacies", and his findings are that everything is on point. What they do find though is sometimes one will order reta and get an equivalent dose of semiglutide and vice versa. His group is very busy. They have seen a 5000% increase in sources popup over the last few years. I asked if he has ever seen anything harmful in these tests and he said no. Rarely do they get "bunk" gear in as well. A little know fact is that even big pharma relies on China/Hong Kong for their API. I don't even think they fill HGH in the US anymore! To add... the Chinese equivalent to our FDA is a little more strict. They have the procedures rules by far in the world.

I went from 2iu to 3 iu a day and my IGF shot up to 497 from 248. I get the hand numbing and everything.

 

[floridaman1984]

Just starting out with HGH. Started at 1iu before bed. Increasing to 2iu tomorrow. Hoping to run 2-3iu for cost effectiveness. Got a 100iu kit to start. But have 2 Dragon kits from K4L coming soon.

 

[Dr.Greenthumb]

My morning, fasted BG went up close to 10 points when going north of 2iU and up to 6 (the highest I’ve run due to CTS, which kinda suuuucks). My A1C has been fairly steady at 4.7-5.0

If you take your rising glucose without hgh you’ll notice a small increase over your daily average due to the “DawnEffect”. That is a naturally occurring event your body produces to wake you after a long fast (sleep). It happens with or without the peptide. As long as your A1C is below 5.7 you are fine.