H&B Blind Test Results Take 2

[squat to death]

H&B isn’t going to pay for shit. Mark my words, as soon as their board dues are up they’ll be gone like a fart in the wind.

 

[tommygunz]

Mr. Bell lol.
This just cements the idea that we’re all fucking retards in his eyes.

 

[squat to death]

Mr. Bell lol.

Fletcher Bell to be exact.

 

[DukesMcKenzy]

Your correct about the primo.. was going off of what H&B said. Here Just incase you didn’t see this post
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I think it’s safe to say the darker yellow primo was from older batches, as I and a few others verified who bought both, so I believe the vial you sent is from the older batch. Also, your primo vial showed test E whereas the testing for the newer batch showed cyp. Their Test E has been that darker yellow until recently, which confirms to me the old primo had that in it, and the new batch had cyp. It’s also why I said in another thread I’m wondering if their recent test E has cyp in it bc mine is clear just like that primo+cyp, but it’s always been yellow.

 

[Jakesnake007]

SSA has been solid. I have their 360iu black tops (really test around 400iu)

They’ve been great. I run 20% of a vial at night (7.2-8iu gh), and they’ve been just as good as QSC, TP, opti, lobster, and the other top dudes

Kits4less sucks ass. I don’t get it. Their HPLCs come back good but I got their supremes a while back and was just extremely disappointed. I’ll never touch another product from them

I hate k4l products

 

[Nood]

I think it’s safe to say the darker yellow primo was from older batches, as I and a few others verified who bought both, so I believe the vial you sent is from the older batch. Also, your primo vial showed test E whereas the testing for the newer batch showed cyp. Their Test E has been that darker yellow until recently, which confirms to me the old primo had that in it, and the new batch had cyp. It’s also why I said in another thread I’m wondering if their recent test E has cyp in it bc mine is clear just like that primo+cyp, but it’s always been yellow.

Damn good eye with the test e and cyp. I didn’t even notice that. So all there Primo 200 was always cut with test.POS company

 

[DukesMcKenzy]

Damn good eye with the test e and cyp. I didn’t even notice that. So all there Primo 200 was always cut with test.POS company

I think it’s safe to say the primo was always cut with test. I’ve been dosing all my vials according to that. At least the amount of primo and test seems consistent lol

 

[Wardamn]

Damn good eye with the test e and cyp. I didn’t even notice that. So all there Primo 200 was always cut with test.POS company

Yep, I noticed that. The primo 200 has been getting cut for who knows how long.

 

[squat to death]

How much were primo raws and test raws?

 

[Penny66]

I have a question. If I have a batch would it work to cut some of my test from my dosage and just calculate the test in it to match. I know it's crappy that it's mixed but wouldn't it be better to use it than toss it. Like the one that tested 125 mas and 100 test. If I'm taking 300 mast and 250 test then just cut 200 from my test and go with that? It seems like a waste to toss it

 

[FearsomeCOR]

I have a question. If I have a batch would it work to cut some of my test from my dosage and just calculate the test in it to match. I know it's crappy that it's mixed but wouldn't it be better to use it than toss it. Like the one that tested 125 mas and 100 test. If I'm taking 300 mast and 250 test then just cut 200 from my test and go with that? It seems like a waste to toss it

Are you asking if you can replace testosterone with testosterone? Because yes, you can bro lol

 

[BBruce]

I have a question. If I have a batch would it work to cut some of my test from my dosage and just calculate the test in it to match. I know it's crappy that it's mixed but wouldn't it be better to use it than toss it. Like the one that tested 125 mas and 100 test. If I'm taking 300 mast and 250 test then just cut 200 from my test and go with that? It seems like a waste to toss it

It might be a problem if you have a “good batch” and now you over dose (sort of), but yes, you can do it like that.

I’m on an older batch of Test E and Primo E and I’m pretty sure it’s accurate dosed based on the results I’m getting.

 

[DukesMcKenzy]

It might be a problem if you have a “good batch” and now you over dose (sort of), but yes, you can do it like that.

I’m on an older batch of Test E and Primo E and I’m pretty sure it’s accurate dosed based on the results I’m getting.

The only testing saying it was 200 or over was from H&B though. Both the new and old vial that have been tested by Austen22 and now Nood were cut with test cyp(new vial) and test E(old vial) and about exactly 120mg primo. Seems more likely to me they were selling it cut like that and switched test esters over time than that it was ever primo 200. I agree with I think is was @Meetketchup that that’s probably why everyone reported barely any pip at 200/ml

 

[Lifter556]

has anyone run their anavar or think it is legit? i bought some before this whole fiasco happened because i just wanted to order some without a order minimum but now am unsure to just dump it or not .

 

[BBruce]

The only testing saying it was 200 or over was from H&B though. Both the new and old vial that have been tested by Austen22 and now Nood were cut with test cyp(new vial) and test E(old vial) and about exactly 120mg primo. Seems more likely to me they were selling it cut like that and switched test esters over time than that it was ever primo 200. I agree with I think is was @Meetketchup that that’s probably why everyone reported barely any pip at 200/ml

Maybe, but my doses right now is 600 Test and 400 Primo, if accurate dosed, and if not it would be close to 800 Test and 240 Primo which seems unlikely because I’m not using any AI and I’m looking lean. I usually need a small dose of AI on my TRT (200mg) so I could only imagine how much I would on 800. My Primo and Test is from later 23/early 24.

Idk, no way of knowing 100% unless it’s tested but as of now I would believe what is dosed the way it should.

 

[Powerhousehb]

has anyone run their anavar or think it is legit? i bought some before this whole fiasco happened because i just wanted to order some without a order minimum but now am unsure to just dump it or not .

There are Jano labs in one of the H&B threads showing it was accurately dosed. So its legit?

 

[Lustyscripps]

C

There are Jano labs in one of the H&B threads showing it was accurately dosed. So it’s legit?

Currently Finishing up the last of my anavar- looking tight and abs are popping- acid reflux is an absolute pain. Its real lol

 

[Astro95]

How much were primo raws and test raws?

Were? Past tense before the inflation? Around 10k for a key of primo, 300 for test.

 

[squat to death]

Were? Past tense before the inflation? Around 10k for a key of primo, 300 for test.

Seriously?

 

[Ehert92]

Is this isolated to primo and mast only? Sorry I skimmed this. Reason I am asking is because I have 2 friends complaining about SERIOUS PIP. To the point neither could sit down or walk. Complaining of infection like symptoms. They both went to the ER and was cleared. Simply said the area is very aggravated. But watch for infection. This happened to me as well. Never ever had an issue like this before until during this timeline you guys are talking about.

 

[Powerhousehb]

Is this isolated to primo and mast only? Sorry I skimmed this. Reason I am asking is because I have 2 friends complaining about SERIOUS PIP. To the point neither could sit down or walk. Complaining of infection like symptoms. They both went to the ER and was cleared. Simply said the area is very aggravated. But watch for infection. This happened to me as well. Never ever had an issue like this before until during this timeline you guys are talking about.

Primo, mast, and some HGH have all tested bad.

 

[Wardamn]

Is this isolated to primo and mast only? Sorry I skimmed this. Reason I am asking is because I have 2 friends complaining about SERIOUS PIP. To the point neither could sit down or walk. Complaining of infection like symptoms. They both went to the ER and was cleared. Simply said the area is very aggravated. But watch for infection. This happened to me as well. Never ever had an issue like this before until during this timeline you guys are talking about.

Who knows what else. Primo and Mast have been the only things recently blind tested AAS wise.

The HGH was tested as well and came back absolutely terrible.

Guys have been complaining about crippling PIP from their oils for a few months as well.

 

[Montego]

Is this isolated to primo and mast only? Sorry I skimmed this. Reason I am asking is because I have 2 friends complaining about SERIOUS PIP. To the point neither could sit down or walk. Complaining of infection like symptoms. They both went to the ER and was cleared. Simply said the area is very aggravated. But watch for infection. This happened to me as well. Never ever had an issue like this before until during this timeline you guys are talking about.

There were a couple complaints about pip from their test e before this all blew up.

I don't believe anyone has sent any in for testing though.

Also, test e can cause pip to some, regardless of how it's made but, not crippling amounts.

 

[DadBod45]

Is this isolated to primo and mast only? Sorry I skimmed this. Reason I am asking is because I have 2 friends complaining about SERIOUS PIP. To the point neither could sit down or walk. Complaining of infection like symptoms. They both went to the ER and was cleared. Simply said the area is very aggravated. But watch for infection. This happened to me as well. Never ever had an issue like this before until during this timeline you guys are talking about.

Their test e did the same thing to me. Serious pip, swelling, redness and warm to the touch. First time I’ve ever experienced that and I’ve been using UGL test for 15yrs.

Apparently it was brewed for Superman and my body just couldn’t handle it.

 

[Wardamn]

Their test e did the same thing to me. Serious pip, swelling, redness and warm to the touch. First time I’ve ever experienced that and I’ve been using UGL test for 15yrs.

Apparently it was brewed for Superman and my body just couldn’t handle it.

You just aren't alpha enough for that test.

 

[Hapanelo]

Since H&B said my results where not REAL I sent out 3 unopened vials of there Gear to get test.. 2 where from Oct 2024 which consisted of 1 Masteron E and 1 Primo 200.. Now I purchased 4 primo 200 in oct and 3 early July 2025. 4 of them have a yellow tint and 3 are crystal clear. According to H&B the yellow tint ones are not the bad batch and should be good so that’s what I sent. I also sent 1 Masteron E from early Aug 2025.
All of these are unopened with documentation of it. Received the results today. Now this was not cheap, totaled 500 in testing and 300 in unopened gear. I mainly did this for the community or I would have sent samples and instead of flushing money down the toilet!
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Wow. Thank you for doing this.

 

[SB Labs]

They've been removed so we should just all move on.....

 

[TomJ]

You really did the community a huge favor man, we need more guys like you. I will say you handled yourself very well thru this whole thing. Guys should look at this as a model for how to do this.
Document your orders
Keep copies of emails and texts
Take pictures
Show testing receipts
Keep your cool and don’t fight with the sponsor
Post in the correct section so your post doesn’t get deleted.
You will almost always get attacked when you post bad test reports but if you have your ducks in a row and are transparent then you should be proven right like in this case with nood.

His BTC addy is still in your quoted post.

Fyi

 

[REHH]

His BTC addy is still in your quoted post.

Fyi

Ok I’ll delete

 

[DukesMcKenzy]

Maybe, but my doses right now is 600 Test and 400 Primo, if accurate dosed, and if not it would be close to 800 Test and 240 Primo which seems unlikely because I’m not using any AI and I’m looking lean. I usually need a small dose of AI on my TRT (200mg) so I could only imagine how much I would on 800. My Primo and Test is from later 23/early 24.

Idk, no way of knowing 100% unless it’s tested but as of now I would believe what is dosed the way it should.

Yeah no real way to know without testing. I will say primo is a strong ai for some but I think you’d likely have some high e2 symptoms at 800/240. I bought my primo later than you (late 2024) so may be different batches. If I’m wrong that mine is under-dosed I’m doing ab 750 test 650 primo pw and I feel good e2 wise. Think it might’ve been a bit high before adjusting the dose
Edit: If dosed accurately, test would be less than 750 pw because I’ve accounted for test in the primo