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Follow Up: HCG and Anavar for first cycle (doctor prescribed)

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Hey all, I posted a couple months ago and got absolutely CLOWNED for my proposed cycle, so I figured I’d share the results with you all to show that this can certainly work. I got so much out of this, full post with pics and bloodwork results below:

Regimen
I have completed a cycle of:
  • HCG
    • 250 IU per day
    • 6 total weeks
    • Prescription Pregyl
  • Anavar
    • 12.5mg per day for first week
    • 25mg per day for weeks 2 - 5
    • Compounded Oxandrolone from pharmacy

Physical Results
Pre-Regimen


16FEB pre-reg.jpg




Post-Regimen
IMG_9067.jpg
IMG_9025.jpg
26MAR2026.jpg



I lift very hard in the gym, usually to all out failure with relatively low systemic to local fatigue ratio exercises (i.e. choosing incline smith press over barbell bench, pendulum squat over high bar squat, etc) that's why I was a bit upset with my natty results and thought I needed a bit of a hormonal boost.

I am sure there are others here who are 7x more jacked than me, but these results have been staggering to me. I've gained so much vascularity and definition while simulatenously losing stubborn fat (lower abdomen) that I've had since 11 years old.

I've received several compliments in person and in my social media accounts, so the external validation is proof this combo worked for me.

Bloodwork
lab results.jpg

I have received so much criticism in my last post about how my bloodwork would be fucked using this combo, how my T would CRASH, how HCG is too weak to save me, how my cholesterol would be fucked, how I would shutdown all of my hormonal production, how my liver would be fucked, yadada you name it.

However as you can see, my bloodwork came back relatively good.

MY FREE TESTOSTERONE DOUBLED

This was not something I expected, I was expecting to lose maybe 20% of my T with the concomitant use of HCG, however I gained about 18% of Total T and 100% of free T.

Other important notes:
  • My SHBG lowered but didn't crash
  • AST and ALT slightly elevated but generally still in range, I've had worse readings when getting bloods a few days after drinking alcohol. This should go down in the next few dats
  • LDL did increase but very minorly
  • HDL did decrease but very minorly, both should bounce back
  • Estradiol did double which is expected from the HCG, but I feel great on this. Much more vital than before, and whenever T increases and SHBG decreases, this is expected. I think high Estradiol induced negative effects is pretty overblown, based on what I've read a lot of the negative feelings from enhanced lifters is LOW E2, not high. Everyone is different, sure, but E2 does have an important role. No gyno experienced, no mood swings, so I am not very concerned. Would I like to have more dryness? Of course, but it's not a deal killer for me and I still have very good vascularity (can now see veins in my pelvic area :) )
  • Glucose is the lowest I've ever had it, I am very shocked as I am taking 2-3IU of HGH. However I followed a super strict clean diet while on this combo to avoid excessive LDL impacts. I minimized fats to somewhere around 25-35g per day, prioritizing lean meats, fruits, veggies, whole grain carbs, greek yogurts, etc. I think this helped play a big role. Also I lift very intensely for high reps, so I get the benefits of cardio during resistance training sessions which is verified by my wearable's data.
  • LH and FSH obviously crashed since HCG is doing the work, but this is not important to me. Enclo will bring it back.

PCT
I meet with my doctor this Friday and will discuss PCT options. Until then, I am continuing HCG daily dosing to keep my T pumping. Based on what I've read, Enclo seems to be a good option to kickstart my LH and FSH production while still maintaining high testosterone levels.

It does make me nervous as the perceived feelings while on enclo seem to be largely negative. You are telling your brain you are low on estrogen, and there may be neural signals sent as a result that contribute to the negative psych/physical feelings.

Curious to see what they recommend. I do want to keep my testosterone at these levels since I am experiencing benefits in ALL areas of my life - work confidence, energy, motivation, enjoyment, intensity in the gym, physical results, etc. But I do not want to go on exogenous T due to the impacts on the endogenous T production from the testicles. It's always nice to have the option to have more kids, and I know I could just take HCG with T, but we shall see...

Negative Side Effects
Not much, I was expecting a lot more given I was told my T would crash and HCG wouldn't save me.

The main side effect was some hair shedding at temples as I've been receding here for almost 10 years now. I was using minoxidil and RU58841 during this cycle so the shedding very well could have been from that. It has stopped momentarily, and I plan on continuing to use this hair regimen for the foreseeable future.

Back acne also was prevalent which was super annoying however it's not yet beach/pool season, so no real issue here. It's already clearing up quite well, I have been using benz peroxide and salicylic acid 1-2 times per day in addition to tretinoin and clindamycin on the actual nodules.

Summary
I don't want to say this was life changing, but it certainly opened my eyes to how much gains you can make when you dial in your hormones. My T levels are nothing special, but compared to what they were before, it had to be the reason for my gains. I didn't really change much in my training, I pushed hard and increased my lifts and yes maybe there was a tad placebo as the thought of being enhanced let me grind out some extra reps and sets, but this combo did positively change my physique.

It is a lighter dosing regimen, so maybe next time I will try bumping up the dose and seeing how that goes. I'd love to try it again in the summer time as long as my LDL comes back down under 90. That's the one thing that makes me a bit nervous, CVD is no joke, and it's a cumulative exposure game over the long run.View attachment 264817
 
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Yup! As long as you feel good and are happy, thats what matters.
thanks brotha! yes feel great, I really think the free T increase was the big kicker. Energy, motivation, and drive all doing well
 
Hey all, I posted a couple months ago and got absolutely CLOWNED for my proposed cycle, so I figured I’d share the results with you all to show that this can certainly work. I got so much out of this, full post with pics and bloodwork results below:

Regimen
I have completed a cycle of:
  • HCG
    • 250 IU per day
    • 6 total weeks
    • Prescription Pregyl
  • Anavar
    • 12.5mg per day for first week
    • 25mg per day for weeks 2 - 5
    • Compounded Oxandrolone from pharmacy

Physical Results
Pre-Regimen


View attachment 244255




Post-Regimen
View attachment 244250
View attachment 244251
View attachment 244252



I lift very hard in the gym, usually to all out failure with relatively low systemic to local fatigue ratio exercises (i.e. choosing incline smith press over barbell bench, pendulum squat over high bar squat, etc) that's why I was a bit upset with my natty results and thought I needed a bit of a hormonal boost.

I am sure there are others here who are 7x more jacked than me, but these results have been staggering to me. I've gained so much vascularity and definition while simulatenously losing stubborn fat (lower abdomen) that I've had since 11 years old.

I've received several compliments in person and in my social media accounts, so the external validation is proof this combo worked for me.

Bloodwork
View attachment 244258

I have received so much criticism in my last post about how my bloodwork would be fucked using this combo, how my T would CRASH, how HCG is too weak to save me, how my cholesterol would be fucked, how I would shutdown all of my hormonal production, how my liver would be fucked, yadada you name it.

However as you can see, my bloodwork came back relatively good.

MY FREE TESTOSTERONE DOUBLED

This was not something I expected, I was expecting to lose maybe 20% of my T with the concomitant use of HCG, however I gained about 18% of Total T and 100% of free T.

Other important notes:
  • My SHBG lowered but didn't crash
  • AST and ALT slightly elevated but generally still in range, I've had worse readings when getting bloods a few days after drinking alcohol. This should go down in the next few dats
  • LDL did increase but very minorly
  • HDL did decrease but very minorly, both should bounce back
  • Estradiol did double which is expected from the HCG, but I feel great on this. Much more vital than before, and whenever T increases and SHBG decreases, this is expected. I think high Estradiol induced negative effects is pretty overblown, based on what I've read a lot of the negative feelings from enhanced lifters is LOW E2, not high. Everyone is different, sure, but E2 does have an important role. No gyno experienced, no mood swings, so I am not very concerned. Would I like to have more dryness? Of course, but it's not a deal killer for me and I still have very good vascularity (can now see veins in my pelvic area :) )
  • Glucose is the lowest I've ever had it, I am very shocked as I am taking 2-3IU of HGH. However I followed a super strict clean diet while on this combo to avoid excessive LDL impacts. I minimized fats to somewhere around 25-35g per day, prioritizing lean meats, fruits, veggies, whole grain carbs, greek yogurts, etc. I think this helped play a big role. Also I lift very intensely for high reps, so I get the benefits of cardio during resistance training sessions which is verified by my wearable's data.
  • LH and FSH obviously crashed since HCG is doing the work, but this is not important to me. Enclo will bring it back.

PCT
I meet with my doctor this Friday and will discuss PCT options. Until then, I am continuing HCG daily dosing to keep my T pumping. Based on what I've read, Enclo seems to be a good option to kickstart my LH and FSH production while still maintaining high testosterone levels.

It does make me nervous as the perceived feelings while on enclo seem to be largely negative. You are telling your brain you are low on estrogen, and there may be neural signals sent as a result that contribute to the negative psych/physical feelings.

Curious to see what they recommend. I do want to keep my testosterone at these levels since I am experiencing benefits in ALL areas of my life - work confidence, energy, motivation, enjoyment, intensity in the gym, physical results, etc. But I do not want to go on exogenous T due to the impacts on the endogenous T production from the testicles. It's always nice to have the option to have more kids, and I know I could just take HCG with T, but we shall see...

Negative Side Effects
Not much, I was expecting a lot more given I was told my T would crash and HCG wouldn't save me.

The main side effect was some hair shedding at temples as I've been receding here for almost 10 years now. I was using minoxidil and RU58841 during this cycle so the shedding very well could have been from that. It has stopped momentarily, and I plan on continuing to use this hair regimen for the foreseeable future.

Back acne also was prevalent which was super annoying however it's not yet beach/pool season, so no real issue here. It's already clearing up quite well, I have been using benz peroxide and salicylic acid 1-2 times per day in addition to tretinoin and clindamycin on the actual nodules.

Summary
I don't want to say this was life changing, but it certainly opened my eyes to how much gains you can make when you dial in your hormones. My T levels are nothing special, but compared to what they were before, it had to be the reason for my gains. I didn't really change much in my training, I pushed hard and increased my lifts and yes maybe there was a tad placebo as the thought of being enhanced let me grind out some extra reps and sets, but this combo did positively change my physique.

It is a lighter dosing regimen, so maybe next time I will try bumping up the dose and seeing how that goes. I'd love to try it again in the summer time as long as my LDL comes back down under 90. That's the one thing that makes me a bit nervous, CVD is no joke, and it's a cumulative exposure game over the long run.View attachment 264817

Hey all, I posted a couple months ago and got absolutely CLOWNED for my proposed cycle, so I figured I’d share the results with you all to show that this can certainly work. I got so much out of this, full post with pics and bloodwork results below:

Regimen
I have completed a cycle of:
  • HCG
    • 250 IU per day
    • 6 total weeks
    • Prescription Pregyl
  • Anavar
    • 12.5mg per day for first week
    • 25mg per day for weeks 2 - 5
    • Compounded Oxandrolone from pharmacy

Physical Results
Pre-Regimen


View attachment 244255




Post-Regimen
View attachment 244250
View attachment 244251
View attachment 244252



I lift very hard in the gym, usually to all out failure with relatively low systemic to local fatigue ratio exercises (i.e. choosing incline smith press over barbell bench, pendulum squat over high bar squat, etc) that's why I was a bit upset with my natty results and thought I needed a bit of a hormonal boost.

I am sure there are others here who are 7x more jacked than me, but these results have been staggering to me. I've gained so much vascularity and definition while simulatenously losing stubborn fat (lower abdomen) that I've had since 11 years old.

I've received several compliments in person and in my social media accounts, so the external validation is proof this combo worked for me.

Bloodwork
View attachment 244258

I have received so much criticism in my last post about how my bloodwork would be fucked using this combo, how my T would CRASH, how HCG is too weak to save me, how my cholesterol would be fucked, how I would shutdown all of my hormonal production, how my liver would be fucked, yadada you name it.

However as you can see, my bloodwork came back relatively good.

MY FREE TESTOSTERONE DOUBLED

This was not something I expected, I was expecting to lose maybe 20% of my T with the concomitant use of HCG, however I gained about 18% of Total T and 100% of free T.

Other important notes:
  • My SHBG lowered but didn't crash
  • AST and ALT slightly elevated but generally still in range, I've had worse readings when getting bloods a few days after drinking alcohol. This should go down in the next few dats
  • LDL did increase but very minorly
  • HDL did decrease but very minorly, both should bounce back
  • Estradiol did double which is expected from the HCG, but I feel great on this. Much more vital than before, and whenever T increases and SHBG decreases, this is expected. I think high Estradiol induced negative effects is pretty overblown, based on what I've read a lot of the negative feelings from enhanced lifters is LOW E2, not high. Everyone is different, sure, but E2 does have an important role. No gyno experienced, no mood swings, so I am not very concerned. Would I like to have more dryness? Of course, but it's not a deal killer for me and I still have very good vascularity (can now see veins in my pelvic area :) )
  • Glucose is the lowest I've ever had it, I am very shocked as I am taking 2-3IU of HGH. However I followed a super strict clean diet while on this combo to avoid excessive LDL impacts. I minimized fats to somewhere around 25-35g per day, prioritizing lean meats, fruits, veggies, whole grain carbs, greek yogurts, etc. I think this helped play a big role. Also I lift very intensely for high reps, so I get the benefits of cardio during resistance training sessions which is verified by my wearable's data.
  • LH and FSH obviously crashed since HCG is doing the work, but this is not important to me. Enclo will bring it back.

PCT
I meet with my doctor this Friday and will discuss PCT options. Until then, I am continuing HCG daily dosing to keep my T pumping. Based on what I've read, Enclo seems to be a good option to kickstart my LH and FSH production while still maintaining high testosterone levels.

It does make me nervous as the perceived feelings while on enclo seem to be largely negative. You are telling your brain you are low on estrogen, and there may be neural signals sent as a result that contribute to the negative psych/physical feelings.

Curious to see what they recommend. I do want to keep my testosterone at these levels since I am experiencing benefits in ALL areas of my life - work confidence, energy, motivation, enjoyment, intensity in the gym, physical results, etc. But I do not want to go on exogenous T due to the impacts on the endogenous T production from the testicles. It's always nice to have the option to have more kids, and I know I could just take HCG with T, but we shall see...

Negative Side Effects
Not much, I was expecting a lot more given I was told my T would crash and HCG wouldn't save me.

The main side effect was some hair shedding at temples as I've been receding here for almost 10 years now. I was using minoxidil and RU58841 during this cycle so the shedding very well could have been from that. It has stopped momentarily, and I plan on continuing to use this hair regimen for the foreseeable future.

Back acne also was prevalent which was super annoying however it's not yet beach/pool season, so no real issue here. It's already clearing up quite well, I have been using benz peroxide and salicylic acid 1-2 times per day in addition to tretinoin and clindamycin on the actual nodules.

Summary
I don't want to say this was life changing, but it certainly opened my eyes to how much gains you can make when you dial in your hormones. My T levels are nothing special, but compared to what they were before, it had to be the reason for my gains. I didn't really change much in my training, I pushed hard and increased my lifts and yes maybe there was a tad placebo as the thought of being enhanced let me grind out some extra reps and sets, but this combo did positively change my physique.

It is a lighter dosing regimen, so maybe next time I will try bumping up the dose and seeing how that goes. I'd love to try it again in the summer time as long as my LDL comes back down under 90. That's the one thing that makes me a bit nervous, CVD is no joke, and it's a cumulative exposure game over the long run.View attachment 264817
Link to my original post for those interested: First Cycle: HCG w/ Anavar
 
How long have you been on HGH?

I truly think that the results you got is from a mix of the HGH/HCG and placebo. I doubt you got anything, except (maybe) a little free T from that small of a dose of Anavar, that’s why your lipids was barely touched.

Either way, good for you, you got what you wanted, it was a success.
 
How long have you been on HGH?

I truly think that the results you got is from a mix of the HGH/HCG and placebo. I doubt you got anything, except (maybe) a little free T from that small of a dose of Anavar, that’s why your lipids was barely touched.

Either way, good for you, you got what you wanted, it was a success.
HGH for about 8 weeks.

Idk man, when I took the Var it was night and day compared to the HGH before. And I've been taking Tesamorelin since July 2025 (developed a hardcore allergy in Jan2026), and my IGF has remained in the same range bound level since then even with HGH.

I felt much more proficient in the gym, the pumps were unreal, and my facial hair became dense. Surely the liver enzyme elevations and the lipid impacts confirmed that? I'd say a 20-30% dip is pretty inline for 25mg var for only 5-ish weeks. I bet if I continued for a full 8 week cycle I would have seen more drastic lipid impacts.

But you are also very right that it could have been more from HCG and placebo, my free T doubling probably had a HUGE impact. But again it only got that high bc Var knocked my SHGB down. I am going to start Boron tomorrow to see if that helps keep it down a bit.

Thanks for the kind words man!
 
You look like you made some improvements. But they could possibly have been made naturally too. Lots of things work. It is just a matter of how optimally they work.
 
You look like you made some improvements. But they could possibly have been made naturally too. Lots of things work. It is just a matter of how optimally they work.
Very true! I was in a 300-500 calorie deficit though, so to make gains in my lifts and quantifiable muscle while in this deficit naturally would be extremely hard, at least I've never successfully done it in my past
 
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How long have you been on HGH?

I truly think that the results you got is from a mix of the HGH/HCG and placebo. I doubt you got anything, except (maybe) a little free T from that small of a dose of Anavar, that’s why your lipids was barely touched.

Either way, good for you, you got what you wanted, it was a success.
This was my thought. Unfortunately we don't observe the counterfactual that if OP had not done any of this but actually just dialed in training/diet/cardio for 6 weeks. Only thing I'd say is I'm not sure if 25mg of anavar is a "low dose" and for a guy whose never touched anabolics before I would say the results are pretty underwhelming for 25mg anavar (losing 5 lbs and gaining maybe 1 pound of muscle?) Now he'll "PCT" (no idea the fuck why) and in 5 weeks look the exact same as when he started.

I just don't understand why this is a success when if you told me a natural novice lifter really dialed in for 6 weeks and got these gains I would say ya sounds about right. His lipids and liver also show the problem with this anavar only bullshit. I'm on test/primo/mast right now (for a LONG time) and my HDL is in range and LDL is 20 points lower than OP and I'm not even dieting.
 
This was my thought. Unfortunately we don't observe the counterfactual that if OP had not done any of this but actually just dialed in training/diet/cardio for 6 weeks. Only thing I'd say is I'm not sure if 25mg of anavar is a "low dose" and for a guy whose never touched anabolics before I would say the results are pretty underwhelming for 25mg anavar (losing 5 lbs and gaining maybe 1 pound of muscle?) Now he'll "PCT" (no idea the fuck why) and in 5 weeks look the exact same as when he started.

I just don't understand why this is a success when if you told me a natural novice lifter really dialed in for 6 weeks and got these gains I would say ya sounds about right. His lipids and liver also show the problem with this anavar only bullshit. I'm on test/primo/mast right now (for a LONG time) and my HDL is in range and LDL is 20 points lower than OP and I'm not even dieting.
Well, I agree with everything you said but what I meant with “it was a success” was that it was a success for him (regardless if the Anavar helped or if it was just placebo). None of us that do real cycles or “live the life” would be impressed with those results but for him and his pers it was. Let him be happy.
 
This was my thought. Unfortunately we don't observe the counterfactual that if OP had not done any of this but actually just dialed in training/diet/cardio for 6 weeks. Only thing I'd say is I'm not sure if 25mg of anavar is a "low dose" and for a guy whose never touched anabolics before I would say the results are pretty underwhelming for 25mg anavar (losing 5 lbs and gaining maybe 1 pound of muscle?) Now he'll "PCT" (no idea the fuck why) and in 5 weeks look the exact same as when he started.

I just don't understand why this is a success when if you told me a natural novice lifter really dialed in for 6 weeks and got these gains I would say ya sounds about right. His lipids and liver also show the problem with this anavar only bullshit. I'm on test/primo/mast right now (for a LONG time) and my HDL is in range and LDL is 20 points lower than OP and I'm not even dieting.
My goals are not to blast and look like I obviously take roids. My goals are to be leaner while maintaining/growing muscle especially in a dieting phase where it’s more likely some muscle loss can occur.

Agree with you the lipid and liver impacts are not ideal but these are transient and should
Go back within a week or two.
 
Very true! I was in a 300-500 calorie deficit though, so to make gains in my lifts and quantifiable muscle while in this deficit naturally would be extremely hard, at least I've never successfully done it in my past
I have made gains on a deficit naturally. But i had quite a bit of stored energy i.e. bodyfat. And it was in my early years of lifting.
 
Seems like a waste of $$$ and natty card status just for some barely noticeable gains. IMO
Not to be a dick but it was a total of like $500 for 2 months of pharmaceutical grade HCG and Var, minimal cost to me. And I don't think the pics do it much justice, I got called out by multiple friends for juicing haha. It really was a staggering improvement, and I had a lot of fun.

As far the natty card status forfeit, I don't really care haha never going to compete, and so far my strength and size gains are maintaining after stopping the var. I'll just need to continue putting the work in the gym.

I now know just how important hormone levels are for body comp and gym performance, really going to try dialing up my free T now
 
Hey all, I posted a couple months ago and got absolutely CLOWNED for my proposed cycle, so I figured I’d share the results with you all to show that this can certainly work. I got so much out of this, full post with pics and bloodwork results below:

Regimen
I have completed a cycle of:
  • HCG
    • 250 IU per day
    • 6 total weeks
    • Prescription Pregyl
  • Anavar
    • 12.5mg per day for first week
    • 25mg per day for weeks 2 - 5
    • Compounded Oxandrolone from pharmacy

Physical Results
Pre-Regimen


View attachment 244255




Post-Regimen
View attachment 244250
View attachment 244251
View attachment 244252



I lift very hard in the gym, usually to all out failure with relatively low systemic to local fatigue ratio exercises (i.e. choosing incline smith press over barbell bench, pendulum squat over high bar squat, etc) that's why I was a bit upset with my natty results and thought I needed a bit of a hormonal boost.

I am sure there are others here who are 7x more jacked than me, but these results have been staggering to me. I've gained so much vascularity and definition while simulatenously losing stubborn fat (lower abdomen) that I've had since 11 years old.

I've received several compliments in person and in my social media accounts, so the external validation is proof this combo worked for me.

Bloodwork
View attachment 244258

I have received so much criticism in my last post about how my bloodwork would be fucked using this combo, how my T would CRASH, how HCG is too weak to save me, how my cholesterol would be fucked, how I would shutdown all of my hormonal production, how my liver would be fucked, yadada you name it.

However as you can see, my bloodwork came back relatively good.

MY FREE TESTOSTERONE DOUBLED

This was not something I expected, I was expecting to lose maybe 20% of my T with the concomitant use of HCG, however I gained about 18% of Total T and 100% of free T.

Other important notes:
  • My SHBG lowered but didn't crash
  • AST and ALT slightly elevated but generally still in range, I've had worse readings when getting bloods a few days after drinking alcohol. This should go down in the next few dats
  • LDL did increase but very minorly
  • HDL did decrease but very minorly, both should bounce back
  • Estradiol did double which is expected from the HCG, but I feel great on this. Much more vital than before, and whenever T increases and SHBG decreases, this is expected. I think high Estradiol induced negative effects is pretty overblown, based on what I've read a lot of the negative feelings from enhanced lifters is LOW E2, not high. Everyone is different, sure, but E2 does have an important role. No gyno experienced, no mood swings, so I am not very concerned. Would I like to have more dryness? Of course, but it's not a deal killer for me and I still have very good vascularity (can now see veins in my pelvic area :) )
  • Glucose is the lowest I've ever had it, I am very shocked as I am taking 2-3IU of HGH. However I followed a super strict clean diet while on this combo to avoid excessive LDL impacts. I minimized fats to somewhere around 25-35g per day, prioritizing lean meats, fruits, veggies, whole grain carbs, greek yogurts, etc. I think this helped play a big role. Also I lift very intensely for high reps, so I get the benefits of cardio during resistance training sessions which is verified by my wearable's data.
  • LH and FSH obviously crashed since HCG is doing the work, but this is not important to me. Enclo will bring it back.

PCT
I meet with my doctor this Friday and will discuss PCT options. Until then, I am continuing HCG daily dosing to keep my T pumping. Based on what I've read, Enclo seems to be a good option to kickstart my LH and FSH production while still maintaining high testosterone levels.

It does make me nervous as the perceived feelings while on enclo seem to be largely negative. You are telling your brain you are low on estrogen, and there may be neural signals sent as a result that contribute to the negative psych/physical feelings.

Curious to see what they recommend. I do want to keep my testosterone at these levels since I am experiencing benefits in ALL areas of my life - work confidence, energy, motivation, enjoyment, intensity in the gym, physical results, etc. But I do not want to go on exogenous T due to the impacts on the endogenous T production from the testicles. It's always nice to have the option to have more kids, and I know I could just take HCG with T, but we shall see...

Negative Side Effects
Not much, I was expecting a lot more given I was told my T would crash and HCG wouldn't save me.

The main side effect was some hair shedding at temples as I've been receding here for almost 10 years now. I was using minoxidil and RU58841 during this cycle so the shedding very well could have been from that. It has stopped momentarily, and I plan on continuing to use this hair regimen for the foreseeable future.

Back acne also was prevalent which was super annoying however it's not yet beach/pool season, so no real issue here. It's already clearing up quite well, I have been using benz peroxide and salicylic acid 1-2 times per day in addition to tretinoin and clindamycin on the actual nodules.

Summary
I don't want to say this was life changing, but it certainly opened my eyes to how much gains you can make when you dial in your hormones. My T levels are nothing special, but compared to what they were before, it had to be the reason for my gains. I didn't really change much in my training, I pushed hard and increased my lifts and yes maybe there was a tad placebo as the thought of being enhanced let me grind out some extra reps and sets, but this combo did positively change my physique.

It is a lighter dosing regimen, so maybe next time I will try bumping up the dose and seeing how that goes. I'd love to try it again in the summer time as long as my LDL comes back down under 90. That's the one thing that makes me a bit nervous, CVD is no joke, and it's a cumulative exposure game over the long run.View attachment 264817
 
Hi mate, can I ask you something? I am from Slovakia and it is not possible for me to get pharmaceutical grade Oxandrolone (Anavar) tablets here or anywhere else in my country. There are only fakes everywhere, who knows... I saw your post and I found out that maybe you can help me get original pharmaceutical grade Anavar. It would be a great help if you could get it for me. It has been 12 years since I have been on Oxandrolone together with testosterone and in about 10 years I have not found any reliable source. Of course, we can also agree on postage and everything related to money. Please send me a mesasage. I am looking for someone who is normal and serious and wants to really help me, not cheat me out of money...
 
Hi mate, can I ask you something? I am from Slovakia and it is not possible for me to get pharmaceutical grade Oxandrolone (Anavar) tablets here or anywhere else in my country. There are only fakes everywhere, who knows... I saw your post and I found out that maybe you can help me get original pharmaceutical grade Anavar. It would be a great help if you could get it for me. It has been 12 years since I have been on Oxandrolone together with testosterone and in about 10 years I have not found any reliable source. Of course, we can also agree on postage and everything related to money. Please send me a mesasage. I am looking for someone who is normal and serious and wants to really help me, not cheat me out of money...
this thread is like ground hog day for retards
 

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