First time EQ advice?

[PBZ]

I’ve been cutting or maintaining since getting onto TRT two years. I want to do an actual bulk this winter for 10-12 weeks. I’m currently on my TRT dose of 150mg TestC/MastE 1:1. I’m looking to up my test to 5–600 mg and run EQ with it. I’m not a super heavy aromatizer but my E2 does stay a little higher than I’d like (52 on last draw). Should I go 1:1 with the test and EQ or should I keep the EQ a little bit lower(3-400) to start and ease it up after the first draw depending on where my E2 is? I don’t want to miss out on any gains by starting too low, but I also don’t want to go too high and crash my E2 and screw myself that way.

 

[Lustyscripps]

Test and Mast is not TRT bud- You’re on a cycle- albeit incredibly low dose but still not TRT. I personally just finished my first EQ run. Was almost - 2:1 ratio Test/EQ. I went high on both. My next run I’m going to run closer to 1:1. I have plenty of HCG on hand in case of crushed E2 I can just get that right back to normal immediately if shit goes awry. 600/400 Test/EQ sounds solid. Make sure to get bloods around week 7-8 and assess from there. Also, 10-12 weeks does fuck all for a growth phase. 16 weeks minimum, but you’re using EQ that’s a long(er) esther. Shoot for 20 weeks- and most importantly, HYDRATE LIKE YOU’RE GETTING PAID, don’t be a bitch, eat clean, and lift heavy mfer. You got this

 

[heckler7]

have you run youre test higher than TRT previously? like around 500 weekly?

 

[Battousai]

Generally I dont do 1:1. EQ is usually slightly less, you wont know where you're e2 sits until you do blood work then you can adjust

 

[PBZ]

have you run youre test higher than TRT previously? like around 500 weekly?

Yes but not while bulking. I blasted 500test/300primo back in the spring for 8 weeks for the summer cut.

 

[rawbuilt]

keep the eq lower to be safe

 

[Wardamn]

Run 300 EQ and pull bloods after 8 weeks.

 

[heckler7]

Yes but not while bulking. I blasted 500test/300primo back in the spring for 8 weeks for the summer cut.

did you use an AI?

 

[McPriimate]

I’d go lower and work your way up. Everyone is different and crushed E2 sucks donkey balls

For me, 40% eq keeps my e2 in low 20’s, so next run I’m gonna run it even lower in proportion to test and just up the NPP for anabolism (those three together are a great cycle for me). This year I’ve been working with primo and it’s not quite as aggressive an ai for me but close. From 55 to 80% or my test level it keeps me in the 40’s more or less (last draw was 57% of my test dose and was at 21, which is lower than I want, so just changed protocol to 7:2:1 from 5:3:1 testrimo:deca).

Long way to say that your e2 from your cut might not be informative to how much you aromatics, as for instance that dose would have had my e2 in like the 30’s most likely instead of in the 80-90’s without the primo.

One variable at a time until you know how each affects you or you increase the risk that your biology surprises you with a limp dick or inability to nut. Not what I want to risk lol

Good compounds for many people so I hope it goes well for you! The above is just one guy’s experience and YMMV


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[Sickxlost]

I’d start the lowest possible with Eq and get bloods in 6 weeks. Go from there. Some touch the vial and crash their e2 others get nothing on e2 suppression.

But once you crash it takes weeks to bounce back. Start low, test, adjust as needed, test again.

 

[Hablooblah]

Lots of good advice above. Id start at a 3:1 or at the most a 2:1 until you pull bloods around week 5 or 6. E2 suppression varies greatly from person to person but from what ive seen very few can run a 1:1 and not crash estrogen. Play it safe, you can always up the dose easier than recover from crashed e2.

 

[Nood]

Lots of good advice above. Id start at a 3:1 or at the most a 2:1 until you pull bloods around week 5 or 6. E2 suppression varies greatly from person to person but from what ive seen very few can run a 1:1 and not crash estrogen. Play it safe, you can always up the dose easier than recover from crashed e2.

This rather start with 3:1 then risk crashing estrogen.

 

[WED]

I ran EQ for the 1st time and did it at 50% and was around 20. Cut it back to 1/3 test and will get bloods shortly to see how it's doing.

Primo at 1:1 put me in the 20s.

Also, seems 10-12 weeks might be considered "too short" of a cycle for EQ as it take a while to fully saturate.

 

[pumppioneer]

Keep the EQ lower at first because that stuff stays in your system for ages.

 

[PBZ]

Thanks for all the good advice here! Will definitely start low and work up after bloodwork. The original 10-12 week plan was just to play it safe. Now that I know longer is better, I will extend it to 16-20 as long as the bloodwork is good.