WaterTurkey
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As many do, I have lurked for a couple of months and finally decided to join up. I have been compiling information from numerous sites over time in preparation for my first true cycle. Having said that I am currently 24 years old, 5'9" and 175Lbs@11%. As far as training I have been at it for 6 years, with a serious focus for 4. I have no intention of any sort of competitive body building whatsoever, I just really enjoy athletics and quite frankly experimenting with how the body reacts to outside (an internal) stimuli. I do realize that my peak natural testosterone levels are still in the midst due to age, however I will be beginning around January 1st with a Test-E cycle. As far as experience in the endocrine game I have run two cycles of mild PH's: one being Epistane, the other being a non methylated 1-Androsterone, 4-AD, Decavol stack. I seem to have a fairly good reaction to stimulation, and figured I would much rather go for the real deal then screw around with designer orals anymore.
I guess I will take this time to put forth my proposed cycle outline, and receive some input so that I may fine tune it prior to my January start date. I have already obtained everything within the outline (with one exception) but am not opposed replacing/getting more of anything.
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Diet:
I have always had a very high caloric requirement, especially with the introduction of weight lifting. Typically my maintenance levels on a non-lift day are right around 4500. I am fully capable of meeting nearly any caloric need in a relatively clean manner. I would say the only flaw in my dieting is that due to how much I have to eat and most of it from non-nutritional information sources that my macros/intake are not logged precisely. I do however typically eat a similar meal line-up daily so I can adjust base on the scale, and my macro split is proper just not precise. I definitely have no lack of protein/proper fat intake. I am excited to see just how much more I will have to eat on a proper cycle.
Blood-Work:
I see the importance everyone places on blood work, and I definitely enjoy seeing internal results just as much as the external so the commitment is entirely there. I will receive the full panel from one of the private labs prior to starting. Subsequent testing will be done via blood-spot/saliva mail in labs for testosterone and E^2, with the vitals to be done by my MD. The only reason for this being that I live 200+ miles away from the nearest testing center.
On-Cycle:
Weeks 1-15: Test-E @500Mg/week (250MG-> Sunday/Wednesday)
Weeks 1-15: Aromasin @12.5Mg ED (Week 4 bloods will determine dose alteration)
Weeks 1-17: HCG @500iU/week (250iU-> Monday/Tuesday)
Post Cycle:
Weeks 18-22: Nolvadex @20/20/10/10
Weeks 18-22: Clomid @50/50/25/25
Weeks 18-22: Aromasin @12Mg ED (To be determined based on mid-cycle blood work)
Weeks 18-22: Natty Testosterone Blend (APP-Nut Drive) as well as DAA @ 3.5G ED
While on cycle I will be documenting blood-pressure, weight, body-fat, apparent mental and physical changes daily. Partnered with the blood-work I should have a well-rounded view on what is going on throughout the cycle. I have all of the various natural supplements on hand if certain aspects take a negative toll.
The only aspect of the cycle in which I don't feel entirely secure about is the HCG use, it seems to be that every thread I read on it has a drastically different take in regards to duration and dosing. Please vets, what would your input be? Furthermore from my understanding you are able to inject both sub-q as well as intermuscular correct?
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Thanks for any input guys, I will be going into this with an entire open mind and utmost dedication as I am treating it as my baseline for continued experimentation down the road.
I guess I will take this time to put forth my proposed cycle outline, and receive some input so that I may fine tune it prior to my January start date. I have already obtained everything within the outline (with one exception) but am not opposed replacing/getting more of anything.
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Diet:
I have always had a very high caloric requirement, especially with the introduction of weight lifting. Typically my maintenance levels on a non-lift day are right around 4500. I am fully capable of meeting nearly any caloric need in a relatively clean manner. I would say the only flaw in my dieting is that due to how much I have to eat and most of it from non-nutritional information sources that my macros/intake are not logged precisely. I do however typically eat a similar meal line-up daily so I can adjust base on the scale, and my macro split is proper just not precise. I definitely have no lack of protein/proper fat intake. I am excited to see just how much more I will have to eat on a proper cycle.
Blood-Work:
I see the importance everyone places on blood work, and I definitely enjoy seeing internal results just as much as the external so the commitment is entirely there. I will receive the full panel from one of the private labs prior to starting. Subsequent testing will be done via blood-spot/saliva mail in labs for testosterone and E^2, with the vitals to be done by my MD. The only reason for this being that I live 200+ miles away from the nearest testing center.
On-Cycle:
Weeks 1-15: Test-E @500Mg/week (250MG-> Sunday/Wednesday)
Weeks 1-15: Aromasin @12.5Mg ED (Week 4 bloods will determine dose alteration)
Weeks 1-17: HCG @500iU/week (250iU-> Monday/Tuesday)
Post Cycle:
Weeks 18-22: Nolvadex @20/20/10/10
Weeks 18-22: Clomid @50/50/25/25
Weeks 18-22: Aromasin @12Mg ED (To be determined based on mid-cycle blood work)
Weeks 18-22: Natty Testosterone Blend (APP-Nut Drive) as well as DAA @ 3.5G ED
While on cycle I will be documenting blood-pressure, weight, body-fat, apparent mental and physical changes daily. Partnered with the blood-work I should have a well-rounded view on what is going on throughout the cycle. I have all of the various natural supplements on hand if certain aspects take a negative toll.
The only aspect of the cycle in which I don't feel entirely secure about is the HCG use, it seems to be that every thread I read on it has a drastically different take in regards to duration and dosing. Please vets, what would your input be? Furthermore from my understanding you are able to inject both sub-q as well as intermuscular correct?
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Thanks for any input guys, I will be going into this with an entire open mind and utmost dedication as I am treating it as my baseline for continued experimentation down the road.
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