Fat Chud Seeking Advice

[justpassingby2]

Hey, fat chud here.

Background

24 years old

Total lifting career 7 years 3 of which consistent hard training, progressive overloading, 4-5 days a week, great progress muscle wise.

Also, fat fucking chud who could not put a fork down ever, and has been hyper obsessed with lifting when should have been doing cardio, so this entire lifting career has been a perma bulk.

<30~% body fat
6 foot 260 lbs
Can post photos of physique but would have to redact a bit due to identifying tattoos.

Preface over here’s dilemma

I’ve done research through the forms on the effects of gear on fat bodies such as myself.

Through this research I’ve found the association of the elevated estrogen level due to my size and possible horrible sides or crashing my natural levels permanently, and while this research seems to correlate to what other users have said I cannot dismiss the countless other examples of other fat bodies utilizing test to achieve what I seek.


Currently on 4 mg of reta and progress has been great, slowly but surely losing weight leaning down, doing multiple forms of good cardio daily while still progressively overloading and lifting in the gym.

So here comes the actual question.

Would I be an idiot to introduce 300-500 test E as my first ever cycle with the reta to achieve my goal of an aesthetic physique.

No bloods to post because I would like some insight on the idea before moving forward, but best believe I would follow a safe strict protocol of checking my bloods thoroughly and etc.

Thanks for your time

 

[Meetketchup]

If you have been working out for 7 years you probably have at least somewhat of a good base I would imagine. You said it yourself about putting the fork down. You don't need gear. You need a consistent calorie deficit, cardio and train your balls off. Get that bodyfat down first. At your bf % losing muscle isn't happening.

 

[Startingover]

1st get macro counter
Get nutrition in check
Get baseline labs

 

[Startingover]

If you have been working out for 7 years you probably have at least somewhat of a good base I would imagine. You said it yourself about putting the fork down. You don't need gear. You need a consistent calorie deficit, cardio and train your balls off. Get that bodyfat down first. At your bf % losing muscle isn't happening.

What MK Said above

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

I cannot dismiss the countless other examples of other fat bodies utilizing test to achieve what I seek

..and this part isnt true. Nobody uses gear to lose weight. They use diet and discipline. Dont believe the hype. I was once 350lbs. Ask me how I know.

Lose the fat first. You'll thank yourself.

 

[Skud008]

I'm gonna second (Third? Fourth? Fifth?) everything said above. At 24 years old the last thing you need is gear. Count your macros (MyFitnessPal, Cronometer, there are several others). Stay in a ~200/day deficit with a good balance of protein, carbs, and healthy fats. Do your cardio and continue to lift. 24 year olds don't need gear to get into really good shape, see: pretty much every professional, college/scholastic, and amateur athlete ever. If you think your T is low (which it probably isn't, not really), getting lean will fix the living shit out of it. Stay in a consistent deficit for 6 months while continuing to push in the gym then come back and show us how amazing you look and feel. You fucking got this man!

 

[Cypher]

You don't need Test. You need to get lean first.

 

[Crusty_69]

Yea man not worth it, I wish I would have found these forums before I used gear.
I was 250 stocky but had a good bace muscle just couldn’t see them under the fat. My old supervisor told me if I used test500, tren200 and deca300 I could shed the weight and put on muscle and still eat whatever I wanted.
I got the muscle but after it was said and done I crashed my natural test, he never told me about PCT. I never recovered from it and ended up on TRT for the rest of my life, never lost the weight.

I locked in on my diet with nothing taken and got down to 180, took awhile but there is no shortcuts.
There is absolutely no magical pill that will help with that. Just hard work and consistency, not what you wanna hear but it’s the truth my man.

 

[Startingover]

WTF!
You got some solid advice!
Hope ya were able to give this clown a good smack in the face at some point?
LOL

 

[Crusty_69]

WTF!
You got some solid advice!
Hope ya were able to give this clown a good smack in the face at some point?
LOL

I do have a wife that calls out bullshit. She stight up told me after i found out what the hell I did to my body and straight up told me “ idk why your mad about it, your the dumb ass that took the shit with out doing research. Own that shit and move on”.
My fault for not doing research before injecting shit.

 

[justpassingby2]

Thanks to all of you guys for confirming what I knew was right, and keeping me on the straight and narrow. Will follow all of the amazing advice given to me above, much love guys hope to give you progress reports soon.

 

[Crusty_69]

Thanks to all of you guys for confirming what I knew was right, and keeping me on the straight and narrow. Will follow all of the amazing advice given to me above, much love guys hope to give you progress reports soon.

Can’t wait to see man! You got this!

 

[WED]

Thanks to all of you guys for confirming what I knew was right, and keeping me on the straight and narrow. Will follow all of the amazing advice given to me above, much love guys hope to give you progress reports soon.

get blood work done. If your test levels suck, a light TRT dose could be beneficial to help you while you're doing the important stuff like losing weight, eating clean, etc