Eq vs primo

[guinnb88]

What are some thoughts and experiences

 

[Meetketchup]

Can you be more specific?

 

[guinnb88]

Just trying to get a feel for some personal experiences with the two, I’m about to start a cycle and am considering one of the two but would like to get some feedback from actual experience

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

I’ve used primo every prep and never notice when it hits or when it gets pulled

EQ on the other hand give solid strength for me and good mental well being

 

[dbar]

EQ has a higher anabolic propensity compared to primo. Albeit, it has a greater threshold of side effects as well. Everyone’s genetic potential is different with every compound. And I mean everyone’s regardless of what they try to tell you. The only way to figure it out is to use one and then the other followed by blood panels while running each. Have fun with it. Experiment and find what works with you one compound at a time.

 

[Nood]

 

[Vee]

Primo is just ok…my primo has test P in it, so thats a littler better. But when this vial of Primo is done, going right back to Eq.. for me, Eq does what Primo is supposed to do, but 3 times better. I’m team Eq all the way!

 

[Meetketchup]

Just like any compound it's completely individual to the user. With EQ's ridiculously long half-life takes forever to clear and is usually prone to more side effects.

Primo has very little sides and works great in relation to test. AI effects are usually stronger, no additional water weight, very little mental impacts such as anxiety and such. Some people say it's weak because they don't feel sides which is stupid. There is a reason why many pros run it in the off-season.

I'd much rather run Test and Primo dialing in a perfect dosage to balance everything out, but that's me. If I wanted to run EQ, I'd just add more test instead.

 

[chadmack]

I personally wouldn't trust the market to buy primo in our current raws situation.

 

[Bolan]

Primo is just ok…my primo has test P in it, so thats a littler better. But when this vial of Primo is done, going right back to Eq.. for me, Eq does what Primo is supposed to do, but 3 times better. I’m team Eq all the way!

I ran EQ year round at unhealthy dosages in the 90's
I would taper up, then taper down. One of my all time faves,
it just fucks up my markers in a bad way as Im getting older,
My 'crit rises just looking at the stuff nowadays

If its good enough for a 4 million race horse, its gotta be good stuff!

 

[Glycomann]

I think a lot of people don't run primo right. It you don't balance it with the correct amount of test. If the primo is to high estrogen will crash and gains go to near zero and joints get achy. the ratio is an individual thing.

EQ, I'm not sure it's the same deal. Probably an individual thing too. Back some years ago I would run 500 test and 500 EQ with no problem. Now, 2 decades later for myself, maybe there is an estrogen lowering issue but I can't say for sure. 35 years ago we would run it alone at times because that was all that was around and people would make lean hard gains and no real issues. It was thought to be a mild compound with pretty much no side effects.

Then again it was only 50 mg/mL. We would run 5 mL a week from a 50 mL bottle. But we were young and responded to pretty much anything. I use to really like EQ since I was a grappler. Cardio forever and added strength and hardness. Weight gain was dry so easy to make weight if needed.

 

[Veneficus]

EQ lowers my e2 more than Primo. I personally don't get increased anxiety from it which is surprising because I'm already prone to anxiety naturally. Maybe I'm already maxed out lol. But I actually feel really good on EQ. I haven't ran it super high yet, 400mg per week, but my hematocrit was 48 and kidney and liver values were good. And my blood pressure went to the same level as with everything else when I'm running similar total doses.
I have no noticeable water retention and I stay nice and veiny. Size and strength increases are the same as primo. With the price difference I personally have no reason to use Primo over EQ. It's probably still less health damaging at higher doses and in the long run, so I'm not against it and I'll use the stash I have. But I can't see myself buying more. I've been investing in eq and will be using that as my main secondary. I'll probably use primo for cutting cycles until it's gone and then EQ for bulking and cutting.
But like everyone else said, you definitely need to run both and see how you react.

 

[Guti20]

Primo is just ok…my primo has test P in it, so thats a littler better. But when this vial of Primo is done, going right back to Eq.. for me, Eq does what Primo is supposed to do, but 3 times better. I’m team Eq all the way!

I've come to this conclusion as well. Primo feels extremely clean to me in terms of barely feeling side effects. But EQ controls my E2 better, Increases my endurance pretty substantially, And adds lean mass a bit better than Primo. But it does add just a TINY bit of water in my muscle bellies.

 

[Glycomann]

Primo for me is very cosmetic. have been on my scripted 100 mg/w test and added in 100 mg Primo and saw a significant shift in look. that is extremely low and considered a TRT+. Then at old man cycle doses of 300 Sustanon + 225 Primo + 100 deca and you have a nice little cycle. 600 Test, 400 primo, and 40 mg/d Anavar and now we are talking. But it all comes down to diet and training really. But that is a good look all things considered.

 

[Sector.]

Primo is good, but mild. Decent look, good hardener, ok mass gains, more bloodwork friendly, not worth $160-$180 a vial for 200mg/ml or whatever it’s going for now. Plus with the current market you’ll probably get some garbage cut or underdosed product. Also can pack some bite with PIP, and you’ll have to pin more MLs of oil than you would with eq since primo is brewed at a lower concentration

EQ is amazing, way better look imo (the 3d look it adds to delts, chest, traps is nutty), the vascularity boost is nutty, the endurance boost is nice, very cost efficient, will sky rocket your hemocrit on bloodwork though so be careful with that, some people also get mental sides from it, can be brewed at higher concentration than primo (less volume to pin), causes less PIP than primo

Even if they were priced exactly the same I’d still choose eq over primo. Prefer mast over primo anyways

 

[Wiseguy]

For me personally primo all day. No comparison here. Primo full muscle bellies, feeling of well being, slow but but very keepable gains, very little sides if any. I feel
Completely great on it and can run 300 8-10 weeks with good results.
HQ long 14-16 week cycle, have to keep your eye on RBC, stays in your system much longer, I have not but some report severe anxiety. I think that’s based on individual and dosage. Typical cycle is 400 to 600 range.its not a bad compound but not when compared to primo.
Again this is based on my personal experience.

 

[Battousai]

EQ is better in every way. Less PIP, more concentration, affordable, better strength and size gains, gives you great esthetics and makes your veins pop, also helps endurance all while still lowering e2. Just make sure to hydrate and control your platelets.

 

[PRorER]

In my experience, I’d choose Primo over EQ.

I’ve ran Primo for almost a year straight with absolutely zero markers changed on my bloodwork. I also like how it gives a full look and slightly leaner (most likely just less water retention from better E2 control). Decent gains, feel good, bloodwork unchanged.

EQ is the only compound I’ve ever taken that messed with my mental state (even Tren had no affect for me). I’m a pretty laid back person but EQ made me an anxious mess, I think that has more to do with its E1 increase and E2 lower, I’ve noticed when E2 drops my mental state deteriorates. Workouts were great though, endurance was sky high, but bloodwork (specifically homocysteine and hematocrit) took a massive hit.

 

[Wardamn]

I'm a fan of EQ and primo for me personally.

For competitive guys I coach I like EQ over primo if they get along well with both. The money saved with EQ they can buy more growth and food.

Both are versatile though. They can be used in both offseason and or prep.

 

[Trippy802]

just ran EQ for 12 weeks and loved it. I had zero issues. Gained a ton of muscle, strength and dropped a ton of body fat. About to run test, EQ, NPP. Primo’s all fake or under dosed right now. I’ve never ran it because the primo situation went to shit when I started this journey but it’s not appealing to me. The only reason I would consider running is if we ran out of EQ and I needed to add something to control e2.

 

[Bathman316]

EQ is great but the sides suck for me. Primo is solid if you take enough. IMO take mast, less sides, works well for an AI for. Better hardening effect for my body.

 

[FearsomeCOR]

I’d take eq any day, but that’s just me. Try them both and see which you prefer for yourself.

 

[Doug 64]

I personally wouldn't trust the market to buy primo in our current raws situation.

That is a sad fact bro... I really hope we get past this point sooner than later.

 

[WED]

just ran EQ for 12 weeks and loved it. I had zero issues. Gained a ton of muscle, strength and dropped a ton of body fat. About to run test, EQ, NPP. Primo’s all fake or under dosed right now. I’ve never ran it because the primo situation went to shit when I started this journey but it’s not appealing to me. The only reason I would consider running is if we ran out of EQ and I needed to add something to control e2.

I'm looking at running this in the future ,especially with the Primo shortage. Almost ran EQ for my next cycle, but the whole RBC pushed me away. Running NPP for the first time this winter.

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

I'm looking at running this in the future ,especially with the Primo shortage. Almost ran EQ for my next cycle, but the whole RBC pushed me away. Running NPP for the first time this winter.

Test eq and npp is probably the second best growth cycle I’ve ever ran. Just solid steady gains.

Idk how old you are but go dump some blood before starting and you should be good for a 20 week cycle but can check a CBC every 4-6 weeks to make sure.

I personally didn’t check on cycle but 4 weeks post cycle my markers were all good

I find with npp, if my life isn’t perfect and I’m not on top of my mental health, the npp will exacerbate a bad mental state ten fold. The eq helps with that a lot since I get the mental well being from it though

 

[WED]

Test eq and npp is probably the second best growth cycle I’ve ever ran. Just solid steady gains.

Idk how old you are but go dump some blood before starting and you should be good for a 20 week cycle but can check a CBC every 4-6 weeks to make sure.

I personally didn’t check on cycle but 4 weeks post cycle my markers were all good

I find with npp, if my life isn’t perfect and I’m not on top of my mental health, the npp will exacerbate a bad mental state ten fold. The eq helps with that a lot since I get the mental well being from it though

Yeah, I've seen the mental sides. We'll see how I do on it. Not planning to run a lot, 300mg a week or so.

 

[ruffus]

For years i used EQ, actually bold cyp, and made great gains. These days i am not looking for big mass gains and want to keep side effects to a minimum so i go with primo. Been running it much of the time for the last few years.

 

[Sector.]

Yeah, I've seen the mental sides. We'll see how I do on it. Not planning to run a lot, 300mg a week or so.

This is kind of bro science on my part but I feel like the mental sides people get on EQ is related to GABA levels In the brain, which is why some get anxiety with it.

I’ve found running Ashwaganda root to be very helpful on eq if you do get those sides. It’s a natural supplement that you can get on amazon and is highly effective

Gabapentin also counters eq related anxiety, although idk if this would be good to reccomend to everyone, but it definitely works

 

[Trippy802]

I'm looking at running this in the future ,especially with the Primo shortage. Almost ran EQ for my next cycle, but the whole RBC pushed me away. Running NPP for the first time this winter.

I have an at home hemo test. Was concerned about this in the beginning as well. I personally experienced no change in hemo the 12 weeks I ran it. I think that myth has pretty well been laid to rest as well from the research I have done. All anabolics are going to increase RBC’s and eq is no different. For me it was an absolutely great compound and I made tremendous progress.

 

[WED]

I have an at home hemo test. Was concerned about this in the beginning as well. I personally experienced no change in hemo the 12 weeks I ran it. I think that myth has pretty well been laid to rest as well from the research I have done. All anabolics are going to increase RBC’s and eq is no different. For me it was an absolutely great compound and I made tremendous progress.

What levels did you run??