DOUG'S UNITED WE BULK CYCLE

[Doug 64]

Well Gentleman, it's been a Long Strange trip complete with injuries, surgery and OT and PT... but I'm ready to rock!
This cycle will be similar to my last bulk about a year ago. I'm going to be incorporating 6 different compounds during the cycle, hence the title United We Bulk!
The players are going to consist of 5 of our esteemed sponsors with the list as follows:
@StadaLabs Testosterone 400 blend @400wk for the first 9 weeks.
@gear church Deca 300 @300wk, weeks 1 - 14
@YourMuscleShop Primo 100 @400wk, weeks 4 - 14
@YourMuscleShop Dbol 100 @300wk, weeks 8 - 12
@Hammer&Bell Sustanon 250 @500wk, weeks 9 - 16
@SB Labs Proviron 50mg tabs weeks 7 - 16.

I generally do not manage to put on much more than 11 to 13 pounds, but I have found that they are good and clean with minimal water and minimal fat so I'll take it!

My weight this morning was one hundred and seventy two pounds flat so i'm hoping to take myself up to about one eighty five when it's done.

I'm planning on blood's at week nine when I change from the TEST blend to the Sustanon and I'm planning a Dexa Scan for sometime in the next week... just to see what I see!

I'm also going to have the wife.Take some pictures and measurements at least at the start and finish and maybe in the middle as well.
I attached a start pic below, as well as my exercises for today.

I'll be doing all the usual meal prepping, planning, and calorie counting using the myfitnesspal app.

I'm gonna do my very best to keep entries on the regular.
I'm planning to go with lighter weights and higher rep volumes to keep from injuring myself because no matter how I try I always end up pushing too hard so hopefully this last bicep rupture will be my constant reminder to not get too fucking nutty.

Today's workout was Legs part one in the A.M., and some Cardio and abs in the afternoon... I have to admit I belong to 2 different gyms and do the exercises I feel most comfortable with at each one.

The afternoon gym has a steam and Sauna so I'll be taking advantage of that as much as possible!

The workout was 5 sets of 15 reps for most exercises
Abduction
1 x 15 x 100
1 x 15 x 110
3 x 15 x 120

Extensions Dbl/single
1 x 15 x 100
1 x 15 x 110
3 x 15 x 120
1 x 20 x 90 Drop to fail!
4 x 15 x 50 each leg
1 x 20 x 40 to fail each leg
No breaks between Dbl/single

Seated curls
1 x 15 x 90
3 x 15 x 100
1 x 15 x 120 to failure

Prone leg curls
1 x 15 x 80
1 x 15 x 60 drop to fail
3 x 15 x 50 failure on set 5 @15!

Plate load leg press
1 x 30 x 180 3 foot positions 10 reps each.
1 x 30 x 180 toes only

Afternoon session
Cardio 15 minutes on recline bike
Captains Chair
2 x 20 x straight leg raises
1 x 30 x Bent knee center
1 x 30 x Bent knee side to side.

Pics below!

 

[samgraves82]

Why are you switching esters at the end and why primo at week 4 and not from he beginning?

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[Doug 64]

Why are you switching esters at the end and why primo at week 4 and not from he beginning?

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This is very similar to the last cycle i ran, it worked really well so im not changing much. The ester changes really took off so im hoping to do the same again... I could add the primo from jump and have done TRT with it before... im really interested in seeing how the Sustanon kicks in as I've never used it before. The TEST blend base will set up a great start... just a thing I wanna try...

 

[mabacherlijr]

Good luck man
I’ll be following along on this journey

 

[samgraves82]

This is very similar to the last cycle i ran, it worked really well so im not changing much. The ester changes really took off so im hoping to do the same again... I could add the primo from jump and have done TRT with it before... im really interested in seeing how the Sustanon kicks in as I've never used it before. The TEST blend base will set up a great start... just a thing I wanna try...

I don't agree with ester changes for the most part outside of comp but IF I were gonna do it, I'd do it in opposite order. You'll like the sust and if u start with it, the short esters will "kick in" faster. If u start at the end of cycle, the long ester won't even have time to settle in before you're done

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[Meetketchup]

I don't agree with ester changes for the most part outside of comp but IF I were gonna do it, I'd do it in opposite order. You'll like the sust and if u start with it, the short esters will "kick in" faster. If u start at the end of cycle, the long ester won't even have time to settle in before you're done

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Yeah, I don't get it and no need for 6 compounds but wish you well! @Doug 64

 

[Doug 64]

I don't agree with ester changes for the most part outside of comp but IF I were gonna do it, I'd do it in opposite order. You'll like the sust and if u start with it, the short esters will "kick in" faster. If u start at the end of cycle, the long ester won't even have time to settle in before you're done

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Just asking now, you don't think the last 7 weeks would be enough time for the esters to kick?
The cycle isn't in stone and I was using the TEST Blend to keep volumes down... I'll definitely look at it a little harder.
I also have a boatload of the TEST courtesy of Stada, so mb I'll skip the Sus and increase the test base at week 9... thanks for the input either way.

 

[samgraves82]

Just asking now, you don't think the last 7 weeks would be enough time for the esters to kick?
The cycle isn't in stone and I was using the TEST Blend to keep volumes down... I'll definitely look at it a little harder.
I also have a boatload of the TEST courtesy of Stada, so mb I'll skip the Sus and increase the test base at week 9... thanks for the input either way.

Yes the longest ester in sust is deca I believe. So think of ur nandralone deca, at 8 weeks it's just starting to settle in at 8 weeks cause the half life 2 weeks give it take. Personally, id just choose one or the other. Or at least use the sust first.

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[Bolan]

Just asking now, you don't think the last 7 weeks would be enough time for the esters to kick?
The cycle isn't in stone and I was using the TEST Blend to keep volumes down... I'll definitely look at it a little harder.
I also have a boatload of the TEST courtesy of Stada, so mb I'll skip the Sus and increase the test base at week 9... thanks for the input either way.

U shouda Sustabombed the whole 16 weeker

 

[Doug 64]

Yeah, I don't get it and no need for 6 compounds but wish you well! @Doug 64

This is actually two less than the last cycle, it's all low doses, hence the combos. It provided a very smooth curve last time around and bloods were impeccable without a single AI

 

[Bolan]

Yes the longest ester in sust is deca I believe. So think of ur nandralone deca, at 8 weeks it's just starting to settle in at 8 weeks cause the half life 2 weeks give it take. Personally, id just choose one or the other. Or at least use the sust first.

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Undeconate ester... Takes weeks to clear

 

[samgraves82]

Undeconate ester... Takes weeks to clear

I felt like I was off on that. And it's even longer half life right? Like, closer to a month

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[samgraves82]

Yes 33 days

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[Wardamn]

Yeah, why adding primo after 4 weeks?

Dbol in the middle of the cycle for 4 weeks as you're removing one test base, replacing it with another while increasing the dosage?

If running an oral why not wait until the last half?

 

[Doug 64]

Yeah, why adding primo after 4 weeks?

Dbol in the middle of the cycle for 4 weeks as you're removing one test base, replacing it with another while increasing the dosage?

If running an oral why not wait until the last half?

Dbol is injectable, the Primo will help the E regulation along with the proviron. Like I sad this is almost exactly the same cycle I ran last year with awesome results.
It was sets up by an old timer and the bloods were awesome throughout. I know it's a nutty setup...

 

[Wardamn]

Dbol is injectable

it still hits the liver. Why not save it for the end?

 

[Doug 64]

it still hits the liver. Why not save it for the end?

Im open bro... nuthin in stone and I may well move it. It's just a feel good compound to me and mid cycle seemed like a good spot.
Thank God the Liver work was well in check. I got Glutathione, liv 52, milk Thistle, NAC, and all kinds of shit!
LOL

 

[Meetketchup]

You're overcomplicating it big time and many of us don't see the reason why, that's all.

Test, Deca and Primo from the start to end, titrating up if and when needed.

Drop all the other bullshit

 

[Doug 64]

You're overcomplicating it big time and many of us don't see the reason why, that's all.

Test, Deca and Primo from the start to end, titrating up if and when needed.

Drop all the other bullshit

The idea is to maintain low doses throughout. I'm 60 years old and don't really wanna up doses if there's another way around that people may not see. It's also why I don't do any orals as they are rougher than any of compounds I have here.
The pic below is the cycle I ran last year, the new one is actually pared down.

 

[Meetketchup]

The idea is to maintain low doses throughout. I'm 60 years old and don't really wanna up doses if there's another way around that people may not see. It's also why I don't do any orals as they are rougher than any of compounds I have here.
The pic below is the cycle I ran last year, the new one is actually pared down.

Yeah, you run the doses you listed for the test, deca and primo or something comparable. If you can't grow from that then something is wrong.

Run what you want man. Just offering an opinion.

 

[Lokes]

Test, Deca, and proviron FTW! Save your $$.

 

[JACKED_]

Oh let's fucking get it my dude

 

[Meetketchup]

The idea is to maintain low doses throughout. I'm 60 years old and don't really wanna up doses if there's another way around that people may not see. It's also why I don't do any orals as they are rougher than any of compounds I have here.

I love you want to run dosages. In your 60's I wouldn't run Deca for the heart implications and roll with just test and primo. I'm 48, compete and I don't touch deca anymore for that reason. I'd rather run slightly higher test with no deca than a moderate test AND deca. The primo is as safe as it gets. Just something to think about.

 

[Doug 64]

I love you want to run dosages. In your 60's I wouldn't run Deca for the heart implications and roll with just test and primo. I'm 48, compete and I don't touch deca anymore for that reason. I'd rather run slightly higher test with no deca than a moderate test AND deca. The primo is as safe as it gets. Just something to think about.

Huh... I honestly had no idea of cardiac implications... truly. Everyone touts it as a joint protective agent... now don't think I've not done homework regarding my compounds... but I have to admit this is something to consider very strongly! Thank you bro ... never too old to learn!
LOL... mb you can teach an old Doug new tricks!!!

P.S. I did decide to save the Sustanon for my post cycle TRT.

 

[Johnnyhartly]

Love the drive and the support for many of our wonderful sponsors.

But I agree with the sentiment that it’s a bit over complicated

 

[Doug 64]

Love the drive and the support for many of our wonderful sponsors.

But I agree with the sentiment that it’s a bit over complicated

Working on adjustments as we speak. Last cycle was completely nutty with 8 compounds! I decided I'm gonna drop the change to Sustanon at 9 weeks and stay with the Test blend... possibly more tweaks to follow... mb lower the Deca or drop it completely... not sure yet.

 

[Wardamn]

Huh... I honestly had no idea of cardiac implications... truly. Everyone touts it as a joint protective agent... now don't think I've not done homework regarding my compounds... but I have to admit this is something to consider very strongly! Thank you bro ... never too old to learn!
LOL... mb you can teach an old Doug new tricks!!!

P.S. I did decide to save the Sustanon for my post cycle TRT.

Yeah, it's the most cardiac toxic injectable.

It can cause LVH and cardiac remodeling.

 

[Veneficus]

Yeah, it's the most cardiac toxic injectable.

It can cause LVH and cardiac remodeling.

Worse than tren? I always assumed tren was the most toxic injectable at everything lol. I haven't tried Deca yet but have some I was going to try for the joint help I've heard so much about.
If it's that bad on the heart I'll reconsider that.

 

[cdubw44]

Doug your alive awesome. Sub me in

 

[Meetketchup]

Worse than tren? I always assumed tren was the most toxic injectable at everything lol. I haven't tried Deca yet but have some I was going to try for the joint help I've heard so much about.
If it's that bad on the heart I'll reconsider that.

There are no human studies on tren anymore for obvious reasons. Deca has been researched for decades and is not friendly to the cardiac system. So I cringe when people take it for joints when they could fix their lifting form and probably fix it.