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Does Sustanon really live up to the hype?

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If I'm pinning EOD for a bulk cycle, does Sustanon really have any advantage over Test E? Is there any appreciable difference in results with it? Planning an upcoming lean bulk (Test/Primo/DHB at 600/400/400). Never used Sustanon before but I'm always intrigued by it.
 
I follow the test is test philosophy I don’t change dosage based on ester other than potentially injection frequency
 
xstah said:
If I'm pinning EOD for a bulk cycle, does Sustanon really have any advantage over Test E? Is there any appreciable difference in results with it? Planning an upcoming lean bulk (Test/Primo/DHB at 600/400/400). Never used Sustanon before but I'm always intrigued by it.
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Once test e is peaked in your system for a month it’ll work as well as any testosterone. If you want to feel the kick right away and don’t have the patience to wait for what feels like fugging forever then use sustanon and you’ll likely never go back to test e.
I started gear in 1995. I was dirt poor. I lived by the Mexican border so I’d go there a lot. A 250mg redi-ject syringe of pharma grade Organon sustanon was $7ish. A 10ml vial of 200mg/ml veterinary Brovel testosterone enanthate was $7ish. My retard brain 🧠 would think, hummm??? 250mg of clean pharma 4 ester time released testosterone? Or 2,000mg of dirty as fugg veterinary testosterone??? So, I would inject 5ccs of Brovel test e in each glute. 😂 I did this every Saturday.
Give the sustanon a try. I think you’ll be impressed! It has a much faster peak leading to quick strength gains. Go deep in the glute as prop/phenylprop can cause pip in those who aren’t used to it.
 
JJB1 said:
Once test e is peaked in your system for a month it’ll work as well as any testosterone. If you want to feel the kick right away and don’t have the patience to wait for what feels like fugging forever then use sustanon and you’ll likely never go back to test e.
I started gear in 1995. I was dirt poor. I lived by the Mexican border so I’d go there a lot. A 250mg redi-ject syringe of pharma grade Organon sustanon was $7ish. A 10ml vial of 200mg/ml veterinary Brovel testosterone enanthate was $7ish. My retard brain 🧠 would think, hummm??? 250mg of clean pharma 4 ester time released testosterone? Or 2,000mg of dirty as fugg veterinary testosterone??? So, I would inject 5ccs of Brovel test e in each glute. 😂 I did this every Saturday.
Give the sustanon a try. I think you’ll be impressed! It has a much faster peak leading to quick strength gains. Go deep in the glute as prop/phenylprop can cause pip in those who aren’t used to it.
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xstah said:
Is the dose 1:1 with test c/e and sust? Meaning if I was going to run 600 test e, would you run it at 600 still with sust?
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You could... but then you're upping the TEST DOSE by the amount of Sustanon as it is TEST as well.
I am planning a cycle for november and i'm wondering the very same question myself. I think personally.I would probably adjust down whatever testosterone I am using as my base and factor in a slight increase to include the new dose of SUSTANON... thats just me and I'm still learning.

On another note...I'd have to motorboat that twat! OMG!!!
 

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xstah said:
Is the dose 1:1 with test c/e and sust? Meaning if I was going to run 600 test e, would you run it at 600 still with sust?
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Basically. 600mg test e, c, or sustanon would be dosed at the same amount. The varying molecular weight of the attached ester and speed/duration of release would vary, but calculating that would be brain damage and unnecessary .
 
Doug 64 said:
You could... but then you're upping the TEST DOSE by the amount of Sustanon as it is TEST as well.
I am planning a cycle for november and i'm wondering the very same question myself. I think personally.I would probably adjust down whatever testosterone I am using as my base and factor in a slight increase to include the new dose of SUSTANON... thats just me and I'm still learning.

On another note...I'd have to motorboat that twat! OMG!!!
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It’s already open. I think it’s inviting you in.
 
Are you saying you keep your test e/c going at your base (in my case, TRT) level and then add sust on top of it? [mention]Doug 64 [/mention]
 
Yes it is my favorite blend of Test hands down
I love it and swear by it.

Labs dont lie. I have never seen better HRT and TRT results in myself and in patients using micro doses or low dose of SUST multiple times per week.

The true formula of Sustanon rarely exists anymore. Nowadays people just throw together a few different esters and call it SUST. It's not. SUSTANON is a very precise formula:

  • 30mg Testosterone Propionate
  • 60mg Testosterone Phenylpropionate
  • 60mg Testosterone Isocaproate
  • 100mg Testosterone Decanoate
 
xstah said:
Are you saying you keep your test e/c going at your base (in my case, TRT) level and then add sust on top of it? [mention]Doug 64 [/mention]
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So you need to understand I'm talking about being on a bulk cycle. I plan to start my testosterone at level x....300 wk, when I add the Sustanon, I have to consider. I am adding an additional 250 mg of testosterone to my base. So if my plan was to run testosterone at 300 adding Sustanon on, unchecked, will bring your testosterone up to 550.
My plan is to add it later in my cycle. Counting on a little boost from the short esters. In that instance I might lower my TEST E or C to 150 which still gives me a total of 400 with the Sustanon. The long Esther of E/C will prevent a drop in your Test Levels, and in fact the TPP and Propionate will give you a quick T level boost. There's a whole lot more, but I'm going into the gym to work out now. A lot of moving parts brother.
 
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xstah said:
If I'm pinning EOD for a bulk cycle, does Sustanon really have any advantage over Test E? Is there any appreciable difference in results with it? Planning an upcoming lean bulk (Test/Primo/DHB at 600/400/400). Never used Sustanon before but I'm always intrigued by it.
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This is my personal experience and my opinion about sustanon: I used Test E, Test C and Sust in different Cycles (incl. cruise/TRT). When it comes to bloodwork Test E & Test C is in almost 2-4 weeks completely out of your system! Unfortunately this does not apply to sustanon! Test undeconate and deconate have a very long half-life. Even after 7 weeks on TRT (180mg test C per week) I still had a tot. Test of over 1500ng/dl. I never had that when I did a cycle with Test E!

So if you do PCT after, don't run Sustanon in your Blast! On the other hand if you do TRT, it doesn't matter......Test is Test but I never felt a big difference between sust, test E and test E. I guess concentration for stable levels of Test in your system is better with E or C.
 
Blood concentration and stability once saturated and injected optimally leads to insignificant difference in bloodwork/levels. "Makes me feel this...makes me feel that." Good for you. :)

The reason I don't like it for competitors is it's in your system for a LONG time and we need to pull compounds a few times of years for off-season, prep and emergencies. I want something that is out of my system fairly quickly, which is also why I don't like running EQ. The avg gym bro running sus is personal choice. Much rather switch between E and Prop upon need.
 
Test it not test guys sorry and Pubmed studies will prove this to be true...

Just the administration method alone causes great variance whether you inject it IM, sub Q, topical, pellets, oral consumption, inhaled, buccul muccosa aka delivery via the gums. ETC. These all have a completely different effect on absorption and overall effects of the hormones.

Smaller doses administered more often and faster esters administered more frequently results in a higher Free Test level circulating in the bloodstream which equals better muscle gain, fat loss, and libido, etc. Aka injecting 10mgs of PROP ed is going to have a far far superior result then injecting 70mgs of Test E or Cyp once a week.

It is a pet peeve of mine when I hear "Test is Test". But nevertheless I love everyone here at ASF and many of my friends ask me or tell me the same thing. It is never a bad thing to be incorrect and corrected by someone with more experience. This happens to me all the time in daily life. I usually just shut my mouth on topics I don't know about. So I only ever get to talk about endocrinology/medical stuff and women. Maybe being a dad because I am good at that and that isn't exactly "fact" based.

I suck at everything else in life. You should see me near a car. I can't even change my own oil. I am Pathetic.

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I don't know about hype. I find test is test. Just comes down to dosage and how often injections are done.
 
I will just say this... Sustanon is for the big boys a cc a day. Fuck being 160#'s
Kinda like asking that AthleanX guy how to get huge.... Dude is 140#'s soaking wet.
I know Powerlifters/ Strongman/ Bodybuilders prefer Sustanon.
But Test is test..... Until it compounds itself over and over with the 2 long acting esters. To each their own....BUT I will say Cyp or E for HRT is "somewhat" easier to control unless you know exactly how you react to Sust.
I still use Cyp for HRT though.
 
Sustanon, tipp and ATIPP both are fun blends an they definitely hit harder imo. point in fact, EOD injects with short esters keep test levels peaking, couple that with the long ester which builds over time > single ester

The real question is are you willing to keep the tedious injection schedule? if so, I recommend loading with a 1” 20G, swap the needle for a .5” 30g for injecting, its super fast and gives your body a break from being a pin cushion and mitigates the scar tissue:twothumbs:
 
Lokes said:
Not sure what it was about the Sust over the E, but Sust made me horny as a teenager as well. Results may vary.
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Yeah. Big difference. I went from 2 years on 2 grams of test to stopping cold turkey. My sex drive dropped and my girlfriend was pissed. She thought it meant I was fucking other girls. So I took test e. My sex Drive didn’t go up for awhile. It was very stressful!
With test suspension, test acetate, test propionate, test Phenylpropionate, sex drive increases very quickly, within hours. Sustanon has both test Propionate and test Phenylpropionate so your sex drive kicks in right away. No joke, if you’re natural and you take 1cc of legit sustanon then go bench press 2-3 hours later you’ll feel it with extra reps and increased muscle endurance. It’s not placebo. I proved that to myself going to Mexico, taking a preload organon sustenon250. Went to my gym 2 hours later. My reps increased on 225Lbs, and where my pecs would normally give out, being I was 100% natural for 8 years, this time the bar kept going up. It was mind blowing.
 

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