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DHEA, HELPFUL OR HARMFUL
SUPPLEMENT OR PROHORMONE

DHEA is one of those compound's that seems to either really help or really, well...not. Altho I hear it called a supplement I'm my opinion it's a ProHormone no matter how ya shake it. I gathered info from several different sites to write this as objective as possible.

WHAT IS DHEA, IS IT IMPORTANT

The adrenal glands produces the hormone dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) which has long been recognized as an important biomarker of aging but also a waste of money and more harmful than positive. As with all sex and growth hormones DHEA levels decline with age, so that a 70 year-old typically only produces maybe 20% of what he was generating 30-40 years ago. This dramatic reduction in production of DHEA coupled with GH, LH, FSH, and total testosterone levels dropping as well....need I say more in favor of HRT?!

DHEA levels dropping and an increase in a wide range of degenerative diseases appears to be more than coincidence n Men suffering and dying from heart disease as well as dementia and Alzheimer's tend to have somewhat less DHEA than others of the same age. Similarly, many types of cancer victims have been shown to have below-normal DHEA levels resulting from simple age increases (sorry y'all, that's the breaks)

DHEA, AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE FIX

For many years, there has been a question as to whether low DHEA levels were a cause or an effect of aging and degenerative diseases. Research on this has been ongoing for many years so I'm my opinion that equates to a reasonable probability.
Auto-immune disorders, especially lupus seems to, via research, help combat (for lack of a large vocabulary) the onset of and rapid increase of lupus and symptoms of lupus as well as Crohns disease.

Cholecystokinin, which is the hormone opposite from Ghrelin in a sense as it signals your brain to stop stuffing your face because you are, in fact, full. Well biochemists have research suggesting DHEA increases production of this hormone. Pair that with the fact DHEA also tends to inhibit the conversion of glucose to fat, so it stands to reason DHEA has the potential to be considered at least in part as a weight loss aid.... certainly for those men suffering andropause and ASIH.

I have read before where claims were made that DHEA potentially lowers cholesterol. Advocates claim DHEA lowers LDL and elevates HDL. There is no laboratory backed science on this that I can find but the placebo effect is an effective treatment at times. So as for DHEA doing anything to cholesterol....GRAIN OF SALT GUYS.

"Until 1996, DHEA was available mainly through compounding pharmacies* with a physician's prescription. In mid-1996, over-the-counter DHEA began to become available in some health food stores and some mail-order supplement suppliers. By 1997, it had become a widely-available nutritional supplement."


I keep getting different dosage recommendations ranging from 25 mg. per day to 150mg daily. A lower dosage of DHEA is practically without risk of side effects. Anyone using an excess of 50 mg. per day should have their blood work done paying attention to DHEA sulfate levels. And as with any medications of the hormonal family you should have regular hormone panels performed by a doctor under who's care you need to be. Remember, you're getting older and LH, FSH, Testosterone, E2, cortisol, yada yada yada need to be monitored.

DHEA FOR WOMEN?
----------------------------------

Supplemental DHEA will increase androgen (male sex hormone) levels in women; and at some dosage women will experience this increase in a physical manner . Deficiencies in male sex hormones are not uncommon in women. Modest increases in these hormones can increase characteristics such as motivation and sex drive. Many women take DHEA primarily for its testosterone-enhancing effects as the masculizing effects are not likely to onset as rapidly as testosterone. Again and as well as with males monitoring by a doctor of hormonal function via increase or decrease of any essential sex hormone is of paramount importance!

DHEA SUPPLEMTATION RISKS
----------------------------------------

Wether you are male, female, Sasquatch or Chupa Cabral taking extremely high doses (1000 mg. or more per day, or the use of micronized DHEA powder or DHEA-alcohol solutions at more than about 200 mg. per day) may dangerously limit the output of the heart in response to exercise. In other words, if you do use DHEA (in any form or suspended in whatever solution) you can be putting your health at risk.

DHEA will dissolve in fats, oils and alcohol. Liquid DHEA, which is usually DHEA dissolved in alcohol, is now available and is is claimed to be unabsorbed into the bloodstream 4-5 times more quick than DHEA capsules or tablets. In the human body, DHEA is converted to DHEA sulfate, which is water soluble. Most of the DHEA in the bloodstream is DHEA sulfate.

DHEA's SOMEWHAT INCONSISTENT?
----------------------------------

DHEA is notorious for reacting or in other words, effecting different people in different ways and sometimes not consistently. However this doesn't mean one should not have their levels checked.
Futurescience.com suggests having a physician order this test:
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) Sulfate Blood Test image-3540584-10436184 from the Life Extension Foundation. This test is sold by the Life Extension Foundation, but is actually performed by Labcorp, which is a large testing company that has about 1600 offices all across the United States. It's one of these new school online testing facilities. Visit this link: Labcorp web site for the location of a Labcorp testing office near you.

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Reference litiature and inspiration:

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Google.com/DHEA:

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Elaborate. ....explain your position. I mean this with all due respect. We are a discussion forum though.
No worries.
The supp industry sells synthetic versions of natural compounds, they have no benefit and bad sode effects.
DHEA in its natural form is highly beneficial.
 
Since dropping TRT Im following a restart protocol seen on Nelsons Excel Male site.
Includes SERM (enclom), DHEA, Boron, etc... I really do feel good except of course the libido takes a bit of a hit.
(No TRT and EOD Finasteride for the BPH).

Ill be stopping Enclom and Finasteride one full month before my bloods in early APR. (an 8-week reboot).
Very curious to see where my test will be. IF all bloods are OK (mainly PSA) I might jump on Emeric Delczeg's "10 mg per day" TRT program. (Sub Q).
Supposedly much less sides, much higher total than one might expect. (700 ng/dl, etc)...
 
I had taken 25mg/day of DHEA for years then started using 50mg and when i got a blood test i was way over the top of the range. So i haven't taken any in awhile and plan to go back to 25mg and get tested again to see where i am at. All this is while on TRT with T levels around 800.
 
I had taken 25mg/day of DHEA for years then started using 50mg and when i got a blood test i was way over the top of the range. So i haven't taken any in awhile and plan to go back to 25mg and get tested again to see where i am at. All this is while on TRT with T levels around 800.
Any estrogen increase when on it?
 
DHEA also helps to regulate hormones.....
Blood tests can tell if your deficient. I take 200mg split through the day... Have for a LONG time.
 
I couldn't tell any difference when using dhea vs not. Before, during, or after aas. Maybe if a person has a natural deficiency to start off with? I don't know. It seems like it has more hype than real world benefit. And labeling it as a prohormone is a joke. But I'm sure the fda would love to be able to do just that to control it.
 
I couldn't tell any difference when using dhea vs not. Before, during, or after aas. Maybe if a person has a natural deficiency to start off with? I don't know. It seems like it has more hype than real world benefit. And labeling it as a prohormone is a joke. But I'm sure the fda would love to be able to do just that to control it.
It isnt a PH and it has been around for at least 40 years and can buy it pretty much anywhere..
It help us guys who are using gear regulate hormones better. It does work.... you can ask for a blood test to see if its low... (like mine).... Its just there to help everything (hormones) mesh better. IF you are deficient.
 
DHEA is actually classified as a neurosteroid or a neuroactive steroid. Just if we're being technical, lol
 
What hormone does DHEA increase?


Some of these side effects can result from DHEA raising the level of testosterone and estrogen in a person's body. Medical experts caution that little is known about the long-term effect of the elevated hormone levels. DHEA supplements should not be taken long-term without consulting with a health care professional.

Does DHEA increase DHT levels?


DHEA treatment restored levels of both testosterone (T) and dihydrotestosterone (DHT) to approximately physiological levels in male reproductive organs. In contrast, this treatment did not increase DHT levels in skeletal muscle or brain.

Does DHEA raise or lower cortisol?


DHEA administration resulted in a decrease in plasma cortisol concentrations (mean, peak, and/or AUC) in healthy older women and men.

Does DHEA turn into testosterone?


Your body can transform DHEA into testosterone. Taking a DHEA may increase your testosterone levels. A 2013 study found that taking 50 milligrams (mg) of DHEA per day raised the free testosterone levels of middle-aged adults undergoing high-intensity interval training.

Should I take DHEA or testosterone?


If you're considering the use of DHEA to increase testosterone, talk to your healthcare provider before starting your supplement regimen. It may be worth investigating testosterone replacement therapy as an alternative since there is more data to support this with confirmed low testosterone levels.Mar 12, 2023
 
Couple things I’ve noticed about DHEA. This is powdered/supplement DHEA, I need to look into natural.

1. It cranks output of sebaceous glands. More acne from this when I was taking 50mg/day then with any dose of AAS. Now taking half that amount.

2. Works better sublingual than swallowed (open capsules, dump powder under tongue and wait 5 min, swallow what’s still there). Currently using a 25mg DHEA + 10mg pregnenolone.
 
Take some sten… its usually a combo of test with inject dhea… heard it was good?


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DHEA was one of the first OTC supplements I used that really helped me grow in my 30’s, it was very noticeable with diet and exercise.
 
This is something that I'm taking right now from IML... The topical.

There's so much to DHEA that is misunderstood, and there's different variants, that will treat people differently, the one specifically below is exactly what is perfect for me and my body.
I'm Now using this in conjunction with my TRT, the stuff is absolutely smooth, beautiful and you literally feel the difference within days.
I have used this specific 1-dhea before, with absolute stellar results, but just not the topical cream..
This right here will lead to a better and faster absorption ratio..

DHEA is one of the most underestimated and underrated things that us older lions can use in our TRT protocols..
I plan on going back on a modest or slightly higher than that blast relatively soon, But right now I'm essentially focusing on getting my cortisol levels low, sleep function on point and everything else as healthy as possible..


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This is something that I'm taking right now from IML... The topical.

There's so much to DHEA that is misunderstood, and there's different variants, that will treat people differently, the one specifically below is exactly what is perfect for me and my body.
I'm Now using this in conjunction with my TRT, the stuff is absolutely smooth, beautiful and you literally feel the difference within days.
I have used this specific 1-dhea before, with absolute stellar results, but just not the topical cream..
This right here will lead to a better and faster absorption ratio..

DHEA is one of the most underestimated and underrated things that us older lions can use in our TRT protocols..
I plan on going back on a modest or slightly higher than that blast relatively soon, But right now I'm essentially focusing on getting my cortisol levels low, sleep function on point and everything else as healthy as possible..


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lqNYY9o.jpeg


Plus ur penis will grow i hear?


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Plus ur penis will grow i hear?


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Well believe it or not, literally each morning I have been literally full staff...
This 1-Andro from IML is simply unbelievable.
I have used this version of DHEA before but this in my opinion is far more superior with the application and the duration it takes for it to reach the blood medium with the absorption ratio.
Now the directions say twice a day a.m. and p.m., it's working so effectively for me that I don't even think I need two applications. But I'm going to stick to the dosage that it recommends.
 
Yet here's another morning, with this application of 1andro that I applaud yesterday morning and prior to bed, and long behold I'm waking up again with straight up stiff morning wood.. could this be the combination of the Cialis? Certainly but the fullness is just beyond anything else.
With all of the data and literature that provides how beneficial this is when running a TRT dosage, it's all holding true.
Normally whenever I run DHEA almost immediately I have acne, I have none at this point, something else I'm noticing is the fact that it almost feels like I'm using noopept For those that remember that it was a nootropic.
This has me feeling laser focus throughout the day..
But I'm going to have to dig a little bit deeper and find out what's behind that.
 
Yet here's another morning, with this application of 1andro that I applaud yesterday morning and prior to bed, and long behold I'm waking up again with straight up stiff morning wood.. could this be the combination of the Cialis? Certainly but the fullness is just beyond anything else.
With all of the data and literature that provides how beneficial this is when running a TRT dosage, it's all holding true.
Normally whenever I run DHEA almost immediately I have acne, I have none at this point, something else I'm noticing is the fact that it almost feels like I'm using noopept For those that remember that it was a nootropic.
This has me feeling laser focus throughout the day..
But I'm going to have to dig a little bit deeper and find out what's behind that.


I like how u really dive into things to find out the why of it all..

Tbh i think i may try some of this.. but the cost… everything is so expensive and it all starts adding up after a bit..


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Well believe it or not, literally each morning I have been literally full staff...
This 1-Andro from IML is simply unbelievable.
I have used this version of DHEA before but this in my opinion is far more superior with the application and the duration it takes for it to reach the blood medium with the absorption ratio.
Now the directions say twice a day a.m. and p.m., it's working so effectively for me that I don't even think I need two applications. But I'm going to stick to the dosage that it recommends.
Plus cialis, proviron, and masteron? I feel sorry for the wife.
 
Plus cialis, proviron, and masteron? I feel sorry for the wife.
That's so ironic that you mentioned that, because twice this weekend, I got some nookie and that's very rare, she was giving me that look, like she was attracted for some reason, she couldn't figure out why, but just looking at me with that look..

I know it sounds funny but I'm a firm believer with smelling hormones in the air and giving off the pheromones..

With her hashimoto's, and her autoimmune disorder and her thyroid disorder, she's always tired and beat down, but twice, Saturday and Sunday she was the one that asked for it..

So everything is definitely working, I know this sounds like a sales pitch but everything started coming together the moment the 1-andro really started heading full saturation, and I was using it religiously first thing in the morning, and before bed not skipping a beat.

I believe that was the missing link with all of the hormone and the very complicated sequence and complex interplay of the most important sexual hormones, furthermore I'm not even taking an anti-estrogen, so even if estrogen is in there somewhere as well, that's playing a role with all of this too..

I feel absolutely dynamite..

The downside is, this is very unusual but I didn't last very long, probably under 5 minutes if that.. 3 to 5 minutes tops and that's not like me.. normally I go a bit longer where she complains and ends up getting a UTI...

@Arnold Thank you for the amazing product from IML 1-andro... That was money well worth spent..
 
I like how u really dive into things to find out the why of it all..

Tbh i think i may try some of this.. but the cost… everything is so expensive and it all starts adding up after a bit..


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Brother at the end of the day it's always going to be a science experiment, we are never going to figure it out, where whatever formula we come up with works for the rest of her life, there's going to be adjustments again and again and again..

This may be a very unpopular statement and I'm sure @Arnold might not like to hear this, but my opinion you may not necessarily need a double application, however I'm using both of them as prescribed and the results are phenomenal.

You never see me attached by name to something unless it works for me, and there's even products sold by PSL that I will not advertise, I will not make promotions about and I will not even talk about them, if I don't like them and if I have it used them I will not recommend them most especially if I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about...
 
That's so ironic that you mentioned that, because twice this weekend, I got some nookie and that's very rare, she was giving me that look, like she was attracted for some reason, she couldn't figure out why, but just looking at me with that look..

I know it sounds funny but I'm a firm believer with smelling hormones in the air and giving off the pheromones..

With her hashimoto's, and her autoimmune disorder and her thyroid disorder, she's always tired and beat down, but twice, Saturday and Sunday she was the one that asked for it..

So everything is definitely working, I know this sounds like a sales pitch but everything started coming together the moment the 1-andro really started heading full saturation, and I was using it religiously first thing in the morning, and before bed not skipping a beat.

I believe that was the missing link with all of the hormone and the very complicated sequence and complex interplay of the most important sexual hormones, furthermore I'm not even taking an anti-estrogen, so even if estrogen is in there somewhere as well, that's playing a role with all of this too..

I feel absolutely dynamite..

The downside is, this is very unusual but I didn't last very long, probably under 5 minutes if that.. 3 to 5 minutes tops and that's not like me.. normally I go a bit longer where she complains and ends up getting a UTI...

@Arnold Thank you for the amazing product from IML 1-andro... That was money well worth spent..
Have you tried adding Wesley's pheromone cologne to the mix? :D
 
DHEA, HELPFUL OR HARMFUL
SUPPLEMENT OR PROHORMONE

DHEA is one of those compound's that seems to either really help or really, well...not. Altho I hear it called a supplement I'm my opinion it's a ProHormone no matter how ya shake it. I gathered info from several different sites to write this as objective as possible.

WHAT IS DHEA, IS IT IMPORTANT

The adrenal glands produces the hormone dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) which has long been recognized as an important biomarker of aging but also a waste of money and more harmful than positive. As with all sex and growth hormones DHEA levels decline with age, so that a 70 year-old typically only produces maybe 20% of what he was generating 30-40 years ago. This dramatic reduction in production of DHEA coupled with GH, LH, FSH, and total testosterone levels dropping as well....need I say more in favor of HRT?!

DHEA levels dropping and an increase in a wide range of degenerative diseases appears to be more than coincidence n Men suffering and dying from heart disease as well as dementia and Alzheimer's tend to have somewhat less DHEA than others of the same age. Similarly, many types of cancer victims have been shown to have below-normal DHEA levels resulting from simple age increases (sorry y'all, that's the breaks)

DHEA, AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE FIX

For many years, there has been a question as to whether low DHEA levels were a cause or an effect of aging and degenerative diseases. Research on this has been ongoing for many years so I'm my opinion that equates to a reasonable probability.
Auto-immune disorders, especially lupus seems to, via research, help combat (for lack of a large vocabulary) the onset of and rapid increase of lupus and symptoms of lupus as well as Crohns disease.

Cholecystokinin, which is the hormone opposite from Ghrelin in a sense as it signals your brain to stop stuffing your face because you are, in fact, full. Well biochemists have research suggesting DHEA increases production of this hormone. Pair that with the fact DHEA also tends to inhibit the conversion of glucose to fat, so it stands to reason DHEA has the potential to be considered at least in part as a weight loss aid.... certainly for those men suffering andropause and ASIH.

I have read before where claims were made that DHEA potentially lowers cholesterol. Advocates claim DHEA lowers LDL and elevates HDL. There is no laboratory backed science on this that I can find but the placebo effect is an effective treatment at times. So as for DHEA doing anything to cholesterol....GRAIN OF SALT GUYS.

"Until 1996, DHEA was available mainly through compounding pharmacies* with a physician's prescription. In mid-1996, over-the-counter DHEA began to become available in some health food stores and some mail-order supplement suppliers. By 1997, it had become a widely-available nutritional supplement."


I keep getting different dosage recommendations ranging from 25 mg. per day to 150mg daily. A lower dosage of DHEA is practically without risk of side effects. Anyone using an excess of 50 mg. per day should have their blood work done paying attention to DHEA sulfate levels. And as with any medications of the hormonal family you should have regular hormone panels performed by a doctor under who's care you need to be. Remember, you're getting older and LH, FSH, Testosterone, E2, cortisol, yada yada yada need to be monitored.

DHEA FOR WOMEN?
----------------------------------

Supplemental DHEA will increase androgen (male sex hormone) levels in women; and at some dosage women will experience this increase in a physical manner . Deficiencies in male sex hormones are not uncommon in women. Modest increases in these hormones can increase characteristics such as motivation and sex drive. Many women take DHEA primarily for its testosterone-enhancing effects as the masculizing effects are not likely to onset as rapidly as testosterone. Again and as well as with males monitoring by a doctor of hormonal function via increase or decrease of any essential sex hormone is of paramount importance!

DHEA SUPPLEMTATION RISKS
----------------------------------------

Wether you are male, female, Sasquatch or Chupa Cabral taking extremely high doses (1000 mg. or more per day, or the use of micronized DHEA powder or DHEA-alcohol solutions at more than about 200 mg. per day) may dangerously limit the output of the heart in response to exercise. In other words, if you do use DHEA (in any form or suspended in whatever solution) you can be putting your health at risk.

DHEA will dissolve in fats, oils and alcohol. Liquid DHEA, which is usually DHEA dissolved in alcohol, is now available and is is claimed to be unabsorbed into the bloodstream 4-5 times more quick than DHEA capsules or tablets. In the human body, DHEA is converted to DHEA sulfate, which is water soluble. Most of the DHEA in the bloodstream is DHEA sulfate.

DHEA's SOMEWHAT INCONSISTENT?
----------------------------------

DHEA is notorious for reacting or in other words, effecting different people in different ways and sometimes not consistently. However this doesn't mean one should not have their levels checked.
Futurescience.com suggests having a physician order this test:
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) Sulfate Blood Test image-3540584-10436184 from the Life Extension Foundation. This test is sold by the Life Extension Foundation, but is actually performed by Labcorp, which is a large testing company that has about 1600 offices all across the United States. It's one of these new school online testing facilities. Visit this link: Labcorp web site for the location of a Labcorp testing office near you.

======================

Reference litiature and inspiration:

---------------------

Google.com/DHEA:

===================
Good post! (y)
DHEA gets such a bad rap due to the estrogen conversion, but it's a very beneficial ingredient!
 
Have you tried adding Wesley's pheromone cologne to the mix? :D
Bro check this out, towards the end of November my whole family got really sick, I don't know what we had, but surprise surprise there is a early Christmas present in my mailbox from Wesley.. He had a plethora of products in there...

One in which was the Dolce & Cabana light blue, And it completely smokes the one that I have, I'm going to show you a photo, I literally carry my own in my truck everyday.. My wife was like a magnet on me..

I don't know what he has inside of those colognes but I had to beat my wife off with a pair of nunchucks... I don't know Kung Fu but I had to read a book or two just to prepare myself....🤣🤣🤣

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