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DECA/TEST/MAST cycle

Wally954 said:
I guess you can overpower nandralone sides with higher testosterone, but the sides in general will be higher, more water retention, you get cleaner gains with lower test and less side effects in my opinion , u will love npp, the only thing my body responds to better is Tren, but I’m too old for that now
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how old is too old, and what happens if you do it
 
rollin-tumblin said:
I assume he means the "too old for Tren" comment
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Yeah, I used to do that shit when I was younger, it was the best ever but also the worst, I have kids now and have a reason to live longer, so I don’t want to be using tren anymore, I’m not saying you shouldn’t use it if you want to, but it will probably affect me more in my older age than when I was 24-25 years old , what you do in your 40s will reflect how you feel the rest of your life
 
WED said:
Seems like this is bit overstated and I've seen you post this exact message a few times.

It's literally anabolic and proven to be. Is it as anabolic and powerful as Tren or even Test? No, but it still increases your total anabolic levels over baseline.

I'm on it right now and not stage ready by any means, but I can see the hardness and aesthetic nature of it when I added it to the end of a Test/Primo cycle.

For some it also helps control estrogen side effects, which is another benefit.

Maybe expensive? Possibly heavily faked right now? Yeah, don't disagree
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I'll tell you what bro. Substitute Tren for Mast and you'll see what he means. I agree that mast is overrated. But hey man, if it works for you, more power to you. Personally I think it's the other things working for you and hopefully your diet is good. Anyway to each his own. But Tren should not ever be compared to mast. Tren is in a class by itself. Most powerful steroid on the planet IMO. Good luck with what ever you decide
 
hot rod said:
I'll tell you what bro. Substitute Tren for Mast and you'll see what he means. I agree that mast is overrated. But hey man, if it works for you, more power to you. Personally I think it's the other things working for you and hopefully your diet is good. Anyway to each his own. But Tren should not ever be compared to mast. Tren is in a class by itself. Most powerful steroid on the planet IMO. Good luck with what ever you decide
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I'll tell you what, bud. Try reading again

No one compared Tren to Mast. Just the fact that Mast does nothing and is useless. It's literally an AAS steroid and increases you above natural levels.

No one said it was more powerful than Tren.
 
WED said:
I'll tell you what, bud. Try reading again

No one compared Tren to Mast. Just the fact that Mast does nothing and is useless. It's literally an AAS steroid and increases you above natural levels.

No one said it was more powerful than Tren.
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I kinda had to read twice as well to see what that guy was getting all upset about. You didnt say anything he is ranting about
 
Just checking back in. Ran 300 mast/500 test/300 deca for 3 months, had barely any side effects except a very small amount of acne, mostly on my scalp in the back. Started at 200lb 5'8" with a nice base of muscle but more bodyfat than i wanted (Flab not FAT). Also started Terzepatide at the same time. and started running 2iu HGH during the last month of the cycle, which I'm running for 6 months (in month 2 now).

In the first couple of weeks-- due to androgens and re-starting creatine ---I popped right up to 209lbs.

Results were great. More of a recomp than a classic bulk because due to injuries my connective tissue couldn't keep pace with the growth. I listened to my body and backed off where I needed to. Am now 190lbs, with veins in my quads, forearms, I can see my abs better, my ass and legs are bigger, and upper body is all bigger.

Really happy with this cycle. Love to do it again, though in the summer I'll want to lean bulk, so I'm thinking low dose tren under a solid test dose. Am tapering off onto TRT now (no pct)... 300mg test last week, 200 this week, and maintenance dose around 80-100mg after that. Not really sure how to add before/after pics here but if you saw them you'd go--whoa, what a difference.

The main thing is, the side effects were really almost nothing. Cholesterol up a little, H & h slightly elevated, but two blood tests mid-cycle and doctor was like "you're fine"... I fucking love steroids.
 
gp0385316 said:
Everyone wanting to use Masteron and burn their $. First off just for credibility sake because I'm not a frequent poster I first competed in 1989 at 17 and won the teenage NJ. I competed every year after that until 2000. I almost turned professional twice, came in 2cnd at the Nationals 2 times.

So, Masteron? Unless your BF is low and I mean competitively low not 8% Masteron is useless. It does one specific thing very well. If your bf is between 3-6% or so 350 mgs of Mast Prop a week will cause your muscle to appear harder, more vascular and just overall sharper. Unless you're a competitor or a model doing a photo shoot, in most cases, Masteron is useless. It does not build muscle, it does not burn fat and, it does not cause your body to lose water. Try aldactone for that or just stop eating badly.
Take or leave my advice it's not my money you're wasting.
Just use thevTest at 300 mgs 2 times a week and tbe Deca at 200 mgs two times a week. Forget the Masteron Unless you are going to compete and even then it's only needed for the last 4 weeks.

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This is just my opinion because I thought the same thing a while but it's really more of the hormonal and neurological balance IMO. It's not always about competitions. We'll say there's an on and off switch for the governor and some folks can naturally regulate that with just Test/Deca. Everyone can respond differently but I can say there's a certain balance I've hit on Mast that completely overrides Deca Dick. I don't think it's about cutting anyway, maybe some people also use it as a mild AI.
 
polomuscle said:
Just checking back in. Ran 300 mast/500 test/300 deca for 3 months, had barely any side effects except a very small amount of acne, mostly on my scalp in the back. Started at 200lb 5'8" with a nice base of muscle but more bodyfat than i wanted (Flab not FAT). Also started Terzepatide at the same time. and started running 2iu HGH during the last month of the cycle, which I'm running for 6 months (in month 2 now).

In the first couple of weeks-- due to androgens and re-starting creatine ---I popped right up to 209lbs.

Results were great. More of a recomp than a classic bulk because due to injuries my connective tissue couldn't keep pace with the growth. I listened to my body and backed off where I needed to. Am now 190lbs, with veins in my quads, forearms, I can see my abs better, my ass and legs are bigger, and upper body is all bigger.

Really happy with this cycle. Love to do it again, though in the summer I'll want to lean bulk, so I'm thinking low dose tren under a solid test dose. Am tapering off onto TRT now (no pct)... 300mg test last week, 200 this week, and maintenance dose around 80-100mg after that. Not really sure how to add before/after pics here but if you saw them you'd go--whoa, what a difference.

The main thing is, the side effects were really almost nothing. Cholesterol up a little, H & h slightly elevated, but two blood tests mid-cycle and doctor was like "you're fine"... I fucking love steroids.
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Glad to hear you got the results you are looking for. What did your body fat % in up at the end? I'm starting similar cycle soon with daily 75mg test, 60mg mast, 30mg NPP and 6-8iu GH (weekly 525 test cyp, 420 mast, 210 NPP) I'm 6'4" 249lbs and 19%bf Just finished cut 6 weeks ago and after this week 6 of maintenance ill be trying the same goal as you sort of in cycle. Then 8 weeks maintenance before a hard long cut to finish out the year.
 
WED said:
I'm running this in December and really looking forward to it. Was going to do it pretty similar and peak at 500 test, 300npp, 500 mast. Probably toss in some proviron. IDK if I'm going to start out with a low dose Aromasin or wait for bloods ~6 wks in
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Masteron and Proviron..
You might want to do some more research..
Z
 
gp0385316 said:
Everyone wanting to use Masteron and burn their $. First off just for credibility sake because I'm not a frequent poster I first competed in 1989 at 17 and won the teenage NJ. I competed every year after that until 2000. I almost turned professional twice, came in 2cnd at the Nationals 2 times.

So, Masteron? Unless your BF is low and I mean competitively low not 8% Masteron is useless. It does one specific thing very well. If your bf is between 3-6% or so 350 mgs of Mast Prop a week will cause your muscle to appear harder, more vascular and just overall sharper. Unless you're a competitor or a model doing a photo shoot, in most cases, Masteron is useless. It does not build muscle, it does not burn fat and, it does not cause your body to lose water. Try aldactone for that or just stop eating badly.
Take or leave my advice it's not my money you're wasting.
Just use thevTest at 300 mgs 2 times a week and tbe Deca at 200 mgs two times a week. Forget the Masteron Unless you are going to compete and even then it's only needed for the last 4 weeks.

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What is your goto cycle?
 
GhostReaper said:
I'm still teachable..
I thought they were the same compound..Just one injectable and one oral..
Am I missing something..??
Z
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They are both DHT, but not the same compound.

It's like saying Tren and NPP are the same bc they are both 19nors
 
Quick update from my Oct 2025 post: I ran the Test/Mast/Deca cycle through late February and added GH. I definitely made progress and got stronger, but not the dramatic size transformation I was chasing. It was really more of a recomp! To others it looked like a dramatic shift but for me it just wasn't enough.

So in March/April I started working with an IFBB pro and finally learned what genuinely high-intensity training felt like. I was progressing fast, but between that and working as a massage therapist, recovery caught up with me. I ended up with shoulder issues on both sides plus an elbow injury.

So now at 52 I’m frustratingly out of upper-body training, doing legs/cardio and rebuilding with bands/bodyweight until my joints can handle real loading again. I’m also leaning out on doctor-prescribed tirzepatide rather than switching to reta.

I’d love another serious growth phase, but right now the priority is getting unbroken enough to actually train hard again. Lesson learned: the drugs weren’t the limiting factor. Recovery and staying healthy enough to train were.

Any advice/thoughts about chronic shoulder and elbow joint issues and how to gain size without messing those up again?
 
Thanks for the update

What doses were you running ? And how was your diet, maybe you weren’t eating g enough to support massive growth ?
 
BigMike305 said:
Thanks for the update

What doses were you running ? And how was your diet, maybe you weren’t eating g enough to support massive growth ?
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T500 deca300 mast300 for 12 weeks
I stopped at 12 weeks because my bloods weren’t so great…

And I wasn’t eating enough because I was on terzepatide

The cycle was successful but my joints are not happy now
 

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