DECA/TEST/MAST cycle

[Fitpipeliner]

What are your thoughts on this? I was thinking the Mast to try and keep some of the water weight down?

Usually I’ll do 4-500 test and 400 deca. Mast? Haven’t added so I don’t know yet!

Let me know what you guys think.

I’m 34 years old, 5’10, 175 pounds right now. Probably 12-14% body fat.


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[Nood]

Very common cycle. Mast lower estrogen for you? Does for some

 

[Gage123]

I’m running test/mast/npp right now at 420 test/ 600 mast/ 200 npp and staying fairly dry also with 3 iu gh per day and feel amazing!

 

[Fitpipeliner]

Very common cycle. Mast lower estrogen for you? Does for some

When I was on Mast before I felt it did me good!!


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[Fitpipeliner]

I’m running test/mast/npp right now at 420 test/ 600 mast/ 200 npp and staying fairly dry also with 3 iu gh per day and feel amazing!

Interesting. Maybe I’ll throw in some Mast too then. I’m about two weeks in without the Mast.


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[Nood]

When I was on Mast before I felt it did me good!!


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Start with 300 a week and adjust from there. Mast is hard to get right now so use is sparingly

 

[gp0385316]

What are your thoughts on this? I was thinking the Mast to try and keep some of the water weight down?

Usually I’ll do 4-500 test and 400 deca. Mast? Haven’t added so I don’t know yet!

Let me know what you guys think.

I’m 34 years old, 5’10, 175 pounds right now. Probably 12-14% body fat.


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Everyone wanting to use Masteron and burn their $. First off just for credibility sake because I'm not a frequent poster I first competed in 1989 at 17 and won the teenage NJ. I competed every year after that until 2000. I almost turned professional twice, came in 2cnd at the Nationals 2 times.

So, Masteron? Unless your BF is low and I mean competitively low not 8% Masteron is useless. It does one specific thing very well. If your bf is between 3-6% or so 350 mgs of Mast Prop a week will cause your muscle to appear harder, more vascular and just overall sharper. Unless you're a competitor or a model doing a photo shoot, in most cases, Masteron is useless. It does not build muscle, it does not burn fat and, it does not cause your body to lose water. Try aldactone for that or just stop eating badly.
Take or leave my advice it's not my money you're wasting.
Just use thevTest at 300 mgs 2 times a week and tbe Deca at 200 mgs two times a week. Forget the Masteron Unless you are going to compete and even then it's only needed for the last 4 weeks.

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[gp0385316]

What are your thoughts on this? I was thinking the Mast to try and keep some of the water weight down?

Usually I’ll do 4-500 test and 400 deca. Mast? Haven’t added so I don’t know yet!

Let me know what you guys think.

I’m 34 years old, 5’10, 175 pounds right now. Probably 12-14% body fat.


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Everyone wanting to use Masteron and burn their $. First off just for credibility sake because I'm not a frequent poster I first competed in 1989 at 17 and won the teenage NJ. I competed every year after that until 2000. I almost turned professional twice, came in 2cnd at the Nationals 2 times.

So, Masteron? Unless your BF is low and I mean competitively low not 8% Masteron is useless. It does one specific thing very well. If your bf is between 3-6% or so 350 mgs of Mast Prop a week will cause your muscle to appear harder, more vascular and just overall sharper. Unless you're a competitor or a model doing a photo shoot, in most cases, Masteron is useless. It does not build muscle, it does not burn fat and, it does not cause your body to lose water. Try aldactone for that or just stop eating badly.
Take or leave my advice it's not my money you're wasting.
Just use thevTest at 300 mgs 2 times a week and tbe Deca at 200 mgs two times a week. Forget the Masteron Unless you are going to compete and even then it's only needed for the last 4 weeks.

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[WED]

I’m running test/mast/npp right now at 420 test/ 600 mast/ 200 npp and staying fairly dry also with 3 iu gh per day and feel amazing!

I'm running this in December and really looking forward to it. Was going to do it pretty similar and peak at 500 test, 300npp, 500 mast. Probably toss in some proviron. IDK if I'm going to start out with a low dose Aromasin or wait for bloods ~6 wks in

 

[WED]

Masteron is useless. It does not build muscle, it does not burn fat and, it does not cause your body to lose water.

Seems like this is bit overstated and I've seen you post this exact message a few times.

It's literally anabolic and proven to be. Is it as anabolic and powerful as Tren or even Test? No, but it still increases your total anabolic levels over baseline.

I'm on it right now and not stage ready by any means, but I can see the hardness and aesthetic nature of it when I added it to the end of a Test/Primo cycle.

For some it also helps control estrogen side effects, which is another benefit.

Maybe expensive? Possibly heavily faked right now? Yeah, don't disagree

 

[Gage123]

I'm running this in December and really looking forward to it. Was going to do it pretty similar and peak at 500 test, 300npp, 500 mast. Probably toss in some proviron. IDK if I'm going to start out with a low dose Aromasin or wait for bloods ~6 wks in

Just got blood back today and e2 is at 36 with no AI!

 

[WED]

Just got blood back today and e2 is at 36 with no AI!

Nice. Was my only question going in that was still trying to figure out. On 300T my E2 was around 80. On 500 Test/Primo it was in the mid 20s

I'll have it on hand and pop it needed, but maybe start the first weeks with no AI

 

[Wally954]

I like to use masteron as a ai, it literally puts bloat in check within a few days for me ,I don’t use much because it seems to flatten out some mass on me if I take it too long ,it takes some of the fullness out of my test/npp cycle but adds vascularity and definition

 

[polomuscle]

I am 51, 5'8" 200lb. Probably 22%bf rn. Using fall to lean out then running 300 mast 500 test 300 deca for 16 weeks starting around the holidays. Hoping this one finally gets me to put on the size I want.

 

[Wally954]

I am 51, 5'8" 200lb. Probably 22%bf rn. Using fall to lean out then running 300 mast 500 test 300 deca for 16 weeks starting around the holidays. Hoping this one finally gets me to put on the size I want.

Get on some Reta for a month or two and start your cycle while using the Reta , you should be able to drop 10 or 15 pounds in no time with it, I would switch out the deca NPP, you will see crazy result in three or four weeks on NPP and if side effects show up, they will leave your system a lot quicker, deca takes forever to kick in and forever to leave, I find it has a lot more side effects than npp too

 

[Wardamn]

I am 51, 5'8" 200lb. Probably 22%bf rn. Using fall to lean out then running 300 mast 500 test 300 deca for 16 weeks starting around the holidays. Hoping this one finally gets me to put on the size I want.

Diet and training will be the key. If add anything it should be GH.

 

[WED]

Get on some Reta for a month or two and start your cycle while using the Reta , you should be able to drop 10 or 15 pounds in no time with it, I would switch out the deca NPP, you will see crazy result in three or four weeks on NPP and if side effects show up, they will leave your system a lot quicker, deca takes forever to kick in and forever to leave, I find it has a lot more side effects than npp too

Seems like NPP and Deca hit people wildly differently. Seems like half love one side and half love the other side. I'm trying NPP and hoping it's the one that is right for me

 

[Wally954]

Seems like NPP and Deca hit people wildly differently. Seems like half love one side and half love the other side. I'm trying NPP and hoping it's the one that is right for me

I feel like the reason many people don’t like Deca is because they’re using it with too much testosterone, for me the more test I use with it the more bad sides , on its own nandralone barely converts to estrogen but with test it amplifies the sides, I’m a believer that running more nandralone than test Is the way to go, I aromatize very easily and get way worse side effects from testosterone, even deca dick goes away completely when I keep the testosterone dosage low, I’ve been on cycle for nine weeks and took 1.5 mg of arimidex the whole time, and the gains are unbelievable, I put on more muscle in three weeks of NPP then 3 1/2 months of primo and test, I also prefer NPP over deca, it seems Deca has more mental side effects and issues with libido

 

[WED]

I feel like the reason many people don’t like Deca is because they’re using it with too much testosterone, for me the more test I use with it the more bad sides , on its own nandralone barely converts to estrogen but with test it amplifies the sides, I’m a believer that running more nandralone than test Is the way to go, I aromatize very easily and get way worse side effects from testosterone, even deca dick goes away completely when I keep the testosterone dosage low, I’ve been on cycle for nine weeks and took 1.5 mg of arimidex the whole time, and the gains are unbelievable, I put on more muscle in three weeks of NPP then 3 1/2 months of primo and test, I also prefer NPP over deca, it seems Deca has more mental side effects and issues with libido

Really looking forward to running NPP. Hoping it goes well. Was going to pair with Primo to keep E2 in check. Seems a lot of folks say it's like 2:1 test/Deca or NPP and then see some with the opinion you have to keep the test lower.

 

[Wally954]

I guess you can overpower nandralone sides with higher testosterone, but the sides in general will be higher, more water retention, you get cleaner gains with lower test and less side effects in my opinion , u will love npp, the only thing my body responds to better is Tren, but I’m too old for that now

 

[BigMike305]

I guess you can overpower nandralone sides with higher testosterone, but the sides in general will be higher, more water retention, you get cleaner gains with lower test and less side effects in my opinion , u will love npp, the only thing my body responds to better is Tren, but I’m too old for that now

When you were running higher test/lower Deca what were your doses ?

Just started ramping up my cycle

350 test
350 primo
200 Deca

Eventually it will be 500/500/200 as I titrate doses up

Ran NPP last year briefly and had no issues, hopefully Deca will be kind to me

 

[Wally954]

350-400 test 300 npp,deca dick was apparent,dropped to 200 test 350 npp and I can’t stop myself from wreaking havoc on my wife several times a day,I’ve become a sexual deviant,even more than on test alone . Even on its own I can’t use test higher than 350-400 without turning into a ball of water, primo counteracts that perfectly but makes me shed hair like crazy , zero hair loss with nandralone and no prostate issues either,

 

[WED]

When you were running higher test/lower Deca what were your doses ?

Just started ramping up my cycle

350 test
350 primo
200 Deca

Eventually it will be 500/500/200 as I titrate doses up

Ran NPP last year briefly and had no issues, hopefully Deca will be kind to me

When I ran Test/Primo at 1:1 my e2 was a little low, in the teens. I'm going to go similar to you and do 600/500/300 (Test/Primo/NPP)

 

[Wally954]

I can’t run primo at 1 to 1 either without crashing estrogen, more like 2 to 1 and with that ratio the mg is too low and I won’t really get any good gains from that little bit of Primo,for me primo is just a good ai and muscle hardener because I can’t run it high enough without crashing estrogen for it to be worth any good gains but I haven’t used it with npp yet to see how it works out, a dht is a good idea on nandralone , I’ve had good results with masteron/test/and nandralone tho

 

[WED]

I can’t run primo at 1 to 1 either without crashing estrogen, more like 2 to 1 and with that ratio the mg is too low and I won’t really get any good gains from that little bit of Primo,for me primo is just a good ai and muscle hardener because I can’t run it high enough without crashing estrogen for it to be worth any good gains but I haven’t used it with npp yet to see how it works out, a dht is a good idea on nandralone , I’ve had good results with masteron/test/and nandralone tho

Yeah I've read Mast can help with some of the mental sides (if you get them). I have some on hand and will use if needed

 

[Wally954]

When you were running higher test/lower Deca what were your doses ?

Just started ramping up my cycle

350 test
350 primo
200 Deca

Eventually it will be 500/500/200 as I titrate doses up

Ran NPP last year briefly and had no issues, hopefully Deca will be kind to me

Another thing, when I ran Primo one to one ratio with test it gave me a serious case of deca dick, probably from crashed estrogen, it would just go limp out of nowhere, I don’t know how it would be with Nandrolone mixed in but it probably would be the same , if it becomes an issue try lowering your test and drop the Primo for masteron, no big deal if you’re not really worried about libido

 

[BigMike305]

Another thing, when I ran Primo one to one ratio with test it gave me a serious case of deca dick, probably from crashed estrogen, it would just go limp out of nowhere, I don’t know how it would be with Nandrolone mixed in but it probably would be the same , if it becomes an issue try lowering your test and drop the Primo for masteron, no big deal if you’re not really worried about libido

Thank you

Yeah… will likely adjust and run primo at around 80% of my test and get labs in a month to see how my E2 is

 

[Crawley702]

I’m running test/mast/npp right now at 420 test/ 600 mast/ 200 npp and staying fairly dry also with 3 iu gh per day and feel amazing!

What days do you pin? Looking to do the same cycle

 

[954ksully]

300 decca
300 test c
200 mast.....
20 months

 

[Crawley702]

Thanks