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Debate #2...Deca or NPP for Joint Releif..??

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For decades Deca has been known for relieving joint pain to some degree..
BUT
NPP doesn't seem to do near as much..If ANY..

Now some do get relief from NPP..
BUT...most don't..

WHY..??
Same compound..right..??

What have you guys experienced over the years..??
Any solid ideas..(Vis)
Theories.... ..??
Z...
 
I have researched this to no end with no discernable answer. Both Nandrolone, one long chain ester one short chain ester. Most commonly short chain esters are more potent and faster acting. With that being said, in terms of joint pain relief, speaking from my experience alone, Deca is by far if not the only choice. I can run NPP at 400 or 500 mgs and get no relief for my wore out shoulders and a previously fractured scapula. On the other hand 150 or so mgs of Deca a week is a night and day difference. I run it for six to eight weeks then drop it off and I am good for an additional six to eight weeks. When I start having trouble sleeping at night from the pain, repeat. Works for me.
 
I feel 10 pages coming from Vis-lol. This is the main reason I don't do npp. I know many guys like it and I do too- but I'm willing to wait the 3-4 weeks for the benefits of deca. And it doesn't seem to quit working over time so.... Deca all the way FOR ME. I'm very interested too see Vis's reply tho. I think he has tackled this before- but not sure it was anything definitive. But never say never w/ Vis. Maybe he has info from a new study-wake up Vis- it's time for ur provi anyway- lol. U feeling any better Z?- HR
 
Wait a F-ing minute...
100 threads on Deca..NPP..
BUT
I start a debate..and everyone runs at once...lol
Z...
 
I would think its the same just different ester. I prefer NPP incase of crazy side effects it will get out of my system faster.
 
I would love some data to chew on..!!
Vis...CL(Compound Lifts) Coach..Zep..DS..??

So what gives relief from Deca..that doesn't with NPP..??
If it's the same hormon..BA...BB..?? Carrier Oil..??

Solvent..
OR
Is it the Ester..??

Z...
 
Bringing this thread back to light. What are good dosages just for joint relief purposes? For Deca and or NPP? Current cycle was Test, Boldenone & NPP. With good joint relief, rotated NPP out and brought Tren in about a week ago and the elbow pain is slowly, but surely coming back with a vengeance. Wanting to use either Deca or NPP whichever is most effective at the lowest dose for joint support. Feedback greatly appreciated.
 
How did I miss this thread.for ME I don't feel much relief on npp compared to deca..why I'm not sure of the specifics on that,I have many injuries and deca will mask it somewhat,while on it...to answer your question ASTRO a therapeutic dose of deca can be 50-100week..
 
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zionoir626 said:
For decades Deca has been known for relieving joint pain to some degree..
BUT
NPP doesn't seem to do near as much..If ANY..

Now some do get relief from NPP..
BUT...most don't..

WHY..??
Same compound..right..??

What have you guys experienced over the years..??
Any solid ideas..(Vis)
Theories.... ..??
Z...
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Idk what the difference is, other than the ester obviously, but... same.

Deca helps my joints, NPP has no effect either way on joints for me.

Seeing as how they are both nandrolone, it must be the slow steady release that changes how the body reacts to deca, vs the fairly rapid and inconsitent release you get with NPP.
 
Jbswole40 said:
How did I miss this thread.for ME I don't feel much relief on npp compared to deca..why I'm not sure of the specifics on that,I have many injuries and deca will mask it somewhat,while on it...to answer your question ASTRO a therapeutic dose of deca can be 50-100week..
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Seems I need to get some Deca on the way. Npp definitely did help my elbow pain, but at a pretty hefty dose, not sure how effective it is at what you recommended with Deca. I’ll give 50 a week a shot, thanks bro. 😎
 
Astro95 said:
Bringing this thread back to light. What are good dosages just for joint relief purposes? For Deca and or NPP? Current cycle was Test, Boldenone & NPP. With good joint relief, rotated NPP out and brought Tren in about a week ago and the elbow pain is slowly, but surely coming back with a vengeance. Wanting to use either Deca or NPP whichever is most effective at the lowest dose for joint support. Feedback greatly appreciated.
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For me, just 200 deca per week does the trick.
 
Astro95 said:
I’ll give 50-100 a shot and hopefully that works. Trying to keep nandrolone at a minimum since I got 525mg of Tren running through the system at the moment 😆
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525 tren ,how you feeling
 
Jbswole40 said:
525 tren ,how you feeling
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Feeling like I just lost my virginity and didn’t blow it after the 1st few pumps aka like a million bucks. 😎 On Tren E, hasn’t taken full effect yet, I stand by that it affects me differently than Ace just like people experience differences between Deca and NPP. My Tren E runs I’ve had no sides whatsoever other than heavy sweating. Ace gotta stay at 300ish or lower or I’ll ruin the marriage and end up in a restraining jacket lol
 
Astro95 said:
Feeling like I just lost my virginity and didn’t blow it after the 1st few pumps aka like a million bucks. 😎 On Tren E, hasn’t taken full effect yet, I stand by that it affects me differently than Ace just like people experience differences between Deca and NPP. My Tren E runs I’ve had no sides whatsoever other than heavy sweating. Ace gotta stay at 300ish or lower or I’ll ruin the marriage and end up in a restraining jacket lol
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I remember u telling that now..yea I respond better to hex than ace,never ran tren e
 
Astro95 said:
Nice! I wanted to try Hex, but money tight this time of year with holiday expenses lol went with Ol faithful E. What was/is your dosage on Hex?
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120 a week..I keep it low.i see no need to push ,but that's me ..I'm already a short fuse 😆
 
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Wiseguy said:
I am sure you men know that the joint relief is only while you are on cycle and once you stop if you have an issue it returns.
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Yep, exactly what I experienced shortly after coming off the NPP. I try to do safe movements and warm up really well, but getting strong quick is the doubled edged sword for me.

Also, my job involves a lot of hammer swinging. Hyperextending when swinging will kill your elbows.
 
Save your health and look up Orange Triad by controlled labs......
Its vitamins, minerals, JOINT SUPPORT, digestive enzymes ETC.
After about the 2-3 month of using it... You can inject winny all day every day and your joints wont be perfect but they will ache alot less,
I swear by the stuff, its hard to find in stock anywhere because it sells out so quick. Buy the 270 Tab bottle ... it will last 45 days.
 
Jbswole40 said:
I remember u telling that now..yea I respond better to hex than ace,never ran tren e
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I love hex, Ace is good but I hate frequent pinning. Tren e made me feel like shit and I didnt respond well gains-wise either. Multiple sources over the years. Tren e just doesn't agree with me.
I get more out of 75mgs of hex than I did on 300 of e.
 
Deca for sure works for (myself a lot better), but I take hella antioxidants/at inflammatory supps too. Probably due to holding more water , but I’m definitely sure in my case. 100mg of Npp does not give me what 100mg Deca gives .

Max
 

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