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CoronaVirus Vaccine

Will you voluntarily take the CoronaVirus vaccine

  • Absolutely!

    Votes: 24 21.1%

  • Hell no!

    Votes: 74 64.9%

  • Unsure

    Votes: 16 14.0%
  • Total voters
    114
GJ503 said:
On this subject I'll throw my 2 cents in. My wife got vaccinated because she works in a hospital where the OB unit has been converted into a COVID overflow ward. I got vaccinated because I work with people coming out of 11 different correctional institutions where this shit has run rampant. I get first hand accounts from the people I work with who watched this shit spread through the units like wildfire. Granted, the only people who died were already in poor health or had serious underlying (comorbid) factors. I also watched my father-in-law, who listens to ding ding radio all day, refuse to get vaccinated and now he is on deaths door. There is a reason Polio and Smallpox are a thing of the past. Don't know how the right got on this kick of distrust of science but carry on my friends.
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Polio - The case fatality ratio for paralytic polio is generally 2% to 5% among children and up to 15% to 30% among adolescents and adults

Smallpox - Two forms of the disease are recognized, variola minor with a mortality rate of approximately 1%, and the more common variola major with a mortality rate of 30%. Between 65–80% of survivors are marked with deep pitted scars (pockmarks), most prominent on the face.

Coronavirus - Nobody knows the death rate because so many deaths that had nothing to do with COVID have been attributed to COVID, also many positive cases have gone unreported due to patients being asymptomatic. There is no way to determine the actual fatality rate but we can all agree it is negligible compared to polio and smallpox.

There is also a flu shot. Is that also a thing of the past?

You're talking apples and oranges dude.
 
GJ503 said:
Don't know how the right got on this kick of distrust of science but carry on my friends.
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Pretty sure there are anti-vaxxers on the left and right. It's funny how times have changed. I remember when it was the left that didn't trust "the man". The biggest problem is that "science" has become politicized. Hence the distrust.
 
Kamala Harris literally stated that if the vaccine came out under the Trump administration she would not get it because of her distrust of Trump.

well the vaccine was created during Trumps administration. Wonder if the leftist queen still feels the same.

has zero to do with science and everything to do with politics. And I do not trust politicians at all. Nor do I trust big pharma.

let’s look at cause and effect closely... big pharma is the reason for the opioid epidemic which has lead to a massive heroin problem.

and no one can rule out that previous vaccinations had zero to do with higher rates of autism or childrens cancers or other learning defects and probably even all the sexual problems young kids seem to be going through at an alarmingly increased rate. Media doesn’t help either.

Previous vaccines have had more safety nets and longer test periods as well.

im not anti vax, I got all mine up to date, but not trusting this particular vaccine (it’s not a cure for this problem) doesn’t make a person “anti-vaxx”.


let’s slow down and think about the possible problems we will (or our children will) inevitably have to deal with because of our rush to “fix” this form of biochemical warfare coming out of an oppressive communist government.
 
Is the vaccine racist?

"70%of white study participants said they would get a COVID19 vaccine, but only about 40% of black Americans and fewer than 60% of people who identified as Hispanic, Asian, other or multiple races, per UCSF"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...-Americans-7-likely-white-people-vaccine.html

The odds that a black health care worker would take a COVID-19 vaccine compared to a white worker were 0.24 to one, according to the study, published in JAMA Internal Medicine.
 
So healthy people are risking getting a vaccine that has killed and paralyzed thousands and left tens of thousands with side effect. The stats "say" the vaccine is 76% effective. So healthy people are risking taking this vaccine for 76% when they natural immunity can defeat this virus with upwards of 99.6%

How does this make any sense? It does not.

So thats the # they say. They also used to say the Flu shot was 80% effective, but we know now it was closer to 10% in reality and that it also can cause spread of the flu in various ways. The nasal version of the flu shot, showed to shed at 600% the rate an individual who didn't receive a flu shot. This means these people were spreading the flu at 600x the rate of a normal person.

So what makes you guys think this is any different?

And I could see if the survival rate was like 20% minus the Covid vaccine, then the 76% (so they say) rate looks good. But when you have a 99.6% survival rate, you just don't get a vaccine. This make ZERO sense.

[h=2]New York woman tests positive for COVID-19 a month after receiving second Moderna shot after attending an indoor wake without a mask[/h]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9422919/New-York-woman-tests-positive-COVID-19-Moderna-vaccine.html?ito=push-notification&ci=113592&si=28276132&ai=9422919
 
Here's another lie...

We know that in the medical field NOTHING is 100%. There is NOTHING with a 100% success rate, I don't care what it is.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/pfizer-says-covid-jab-100-effective-children-aged-12-15
[h=1]Pfizer Says COVID Jab "100% Effective" On Children Aged 12 To 15[/h]
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by Tyler Durden

Wednesday, Mar 31, 2021 - 07:30 AM
Pfizer is already testing its vaccine on children as young as five (and soon will test it on children as young as six months), but the first results from the company's trial on an older cohort of minors have just arrived, and unsurprisingly, the data showed the vaccines were 100% effective at protecting children from COVID-19.
To be sure, children are believed to be strongly resilient to COVID-19, the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus, naturally, although there have been cases of child fatalities attributed to COVID.


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Technically that man suffered chemical burns. Been there, I can't take Z-pack, Levaquin, just for that same reason. It was agonizing. During that time I developed allergies to other products I never had allergies to. Such as the glue used on many "patches".

I cannot nor will I get the Covid vaccine. I have had anaphylactic shock prior.

Past that Gymtonic is right. Nothing is 100% in the medical industry.

Most people that get it and die are walking corpses anyways. This is mother earth evening the playing field, even if it was created in a lab somewhere....like say China. Which is most likely, but I doubt we will ever get a strait answer.

Once it kills enough older folks and those with weak immune systems (sorry, not sorry just the truth, do not care if hurt anybody's feelings) things will settle down. It will likely take another year or two for that to happen. Depends on the mutations. Most mutation strains are weaker or should be if we are dealing with a non-manmade virus. Rarely do they mutate into a deadlier form. There are reasons for this, such as even virus seemingly understand if it spreads to fast and is too deadly, there will be no hosts left for it/them.

None of these vaccines protect you from reacquiring. Just protect you from the symptoms. They pulled one in Canada already for "problems".

ANyways, being in the medical community even as a student has shown me what I always knew. Do not trust them as a whole. Trust individuals, but still be wary. I have seen smart nurses and dr., stand up for the right things, only to fold and crumple under this shit show.
 
This entire so called virus pandemic/bullshit lie has ruined so many lives. Not only by the false vaccine but people losing everything. Jobs homes family livelihood is disgusting what these people have done to us.

The fact that so many Americans have been so blinded by this lie is embarrassing. There is so much evidence to prove why you shouldn’t get the vaccine as well as how much of a scam it’s been from the beginning. It’s mind blowing the amount of stupidity people have.

I could go on and on about this but I won’t because truth be told no matter how much I say or how much proof people have. There will always be some jackass or group of jackasses who refuse to see the truth and will continue to argue and fight against what is right and what would keep this country and it’s people great and at the top.

So here is a Gigantic Fuck You to everyone and anyone who is against this country and the people who believe in it.


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stephenkelly said:
This entire so called virus pandemic/bullshit lie has ruined so many lives. Not only by the false vaccine but people losing everything. Jobs homes family livelihood is disgusting what these people have done to us.

The fact that so many Americans have been so blinded by this lie is embarrassing. There is so much evidence to prove why you shouldn’t get the vaccine as well as how much of a scam it’s been from the beginning. It’s mind blowing the amount of stupidity people have.

I could go on and on about this but I won’t because truth be told no matter how much I say or how much proof people have. There will always be some jackass or group of jackasses who refuse to see the truth and will continue to argue and fight against what is right and what would keep this country and it’s people great and at the top.

So here is a Gigantic Fuck You to everyone and anyone who is against this country and the people who believe in it.


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Those Jackasses have names. They're called Libtards.
 
GYMnTONIC said:
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Kinda makes you wish that you had one of those face machines from the Mission Impossible movies so you could pose as Fauci and tell everyone that the only way to be truly protected is to put a garbage bag over your head and secure it to your neck with really tight zip ties.

Just imagine how much better everything would be pretty much instantly.


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CastorTroy01 said:
Kinda makes you wish that you had one of those face machines from the Mission Impossible movies so you could pose as Fauci and tell everyone that the only way to be truly protected is to put a garbage bag over your head and secure it to your neck with really tight zip ties.

Just imagine how much better everything would be pretty much instantly.


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Na id look like him and tell everyone i lied and then tell everyone about all the molestors and IT WOULD BE FINISHED

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Yet another article confirming what everybody here knows...Undercover video sparks outrage over secret dinner parties for Paris elite - CNN

I for one couldn't care less about people flouting COVID restrictions, I actually think it's great. What bothers me is the hypocrisy. These people obviously know it's all bullshit because behind closed doors they disregard their own policies.

It's the "rules for thee, but not for me" that has everybody bothered. This is all purely a government power grab.
 
CastorTroy01 said:
Yet another article confirming what everybody here knows...Undercover video sparks outrage over secret dinner parties for Paris elite - CNN

I for one couldn't care less about people flouting COVID restrictions, I actually think it's great. What bothers me is the hypocrisy. These people obviously know it's all bullshit because behind closed doors they disregard their own policies.

It's the "rules for thee, but not for me" that has everybody bothered. This is all purely a government power grab.
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And the largest transfer of wealth ever

Trillions of dollars have been stripped from the middle and lower class, while giving trillions to the already billionaires.


BTW look how out of control things have gotten in some places


[h=2]Covid rule-breaker dies after Philippines police 'made him do 300 squats as punishment' for going out to buy water after 6pm[/h]
  • Darren Penaredondo, 28, died April 3 in the Philippines after suffering seizures
  • He had been arrested on the night of April 1 after breaking curfew to buy water
  • Police allegedly forced him to do 100 squat thrusts, and made him repeat the exercise three times because he kept stumbling
  • He returned home barely able to walk or stand before collapsing and dying

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...notification&ci=119089&si=28584273&ai=9439947

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While I understood the need for a Covid vaccine to a degree I guess. I fault Trump for pushing this vaccine out as soon as possible with operation warp speed or whatever it was called. That should be a huge red flag. I'm sure his hands were tied and optimally had pretty much zero choice to do so. But everything Wes just posted is why I'm not going to get this vaccine. For me there's zero reason to. I take care of my own immune health. I'm not anti vaccine just some I'm definitely passing on for me.
 
Milford King said:
The science is clear. And science has never been wrong!!!


but you cannot designate gender to a baby because the science is still out on biological sex.
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Yep! There’s that privilege again!


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A CrossFit dude and a Keto diet woman walk into a bar. And they can’t seem to get a word in. Why? Cause there’s someone who got the vaccine already in there.
 
Multislacking said:
yep...
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Did you know Forcing a Covid Vaccine violates Federal Law? Businesses and Companies forcing employees to obtain a Vaccine under force of termination of employment, etc can be sued. Individuals can be sued. Companies, like airlines who force individuals to have a Vaccine to travel, etc, are in violation of Federal Law

21 US Code 360bbb-3

Authorization for medical products for use in emergencies




(ii) Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed—

(I) that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product;

(II) of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and

(III) of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/...5h1LYLrslmp5WBnCd11TU5xMOSsouANKm0CPvh25RWyGI
 
Scientists Call BS On WHO's Wuhan 'Investigation' - Demand Legitimate Probe With Or Without China


https://www.zerohedge.com/political...tion-demand-legitimate-probe-or-without-china

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by Tyler Durden

Thursday, Apr 08, 2021 - 04:15 AM
After a joint investigation between China and the World Health Organization (WHO) failed to produce a legitimate explanation for the origins of COVID-19, a group of international scientists has cried foul - and is demanding "more rigorous investigations" - with or without Beijing's participation, according to Reuters.


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In a Wednesday open letter, 24 prominent scientists and researchers from Europe, Australia, the United States and Japan say the WHO study - which all but ruled out a laboratory leak - was tainted by politics.
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"Their starting point was, let’s have as much compromise as is required to get some minimal cooperation from China," said Atlantic Council senior fellow, Jamie Metzl, who drafted the letter - which says that the WHO study's conclusions were based on unpublished Chinese research, while records and biological samples critical to the investigation "remain inaccessible."
According to Metzl, the world might have to "revert to plan B" and conduct an independent investigation "in the most systematic way possible" with or without China's participation.
China has vehemently ruled out the possibility that COVID-19 leaked from a Wuhan lab, where scientists were manipulating bat coronaviruses to more easily infect humans.
"China has databases of what viruses were being held... there are lab notes of the work that was being done," Metzl added. "There are all kinds of scientists who are actually doing the work and we don’t have access to any of those resources, or any of those people."
If Metzl et. al. need a blueprint for exactly how a forensic investigation of Wuhan laboratories might be conducted, this 122 page proposal might fit the bill:
 

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