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China is all dried up....

JJB1 said:
I wonder if USA compounding pharmacies get their raws from China too?
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Absolutely. Most API synthesis comes from China and India in general. The difference with these compounding pharmacies is their importation is done over FDA oversight.
 
I wouldn't worry about Raws right now... just the few basics like
Primo, Mast and now Tren E will be unobtanium.
The rest is G2G for a couple more years anyways!
Just the increase In prices will be from all the testing AND the
price of raws are up obviously.
 
Bolan said:
I wouldn't worry about Raws right now... just the few basics like
Primo, Mast and now Tren E will be unobtanium.
The rest is G2G for a couple more years anyways!
Just the increase In prices will be from all the testing AND the
price of raws are up obviously.
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100% disagree here

Customs are impossible to pass through currently. Even if the material is made, it takes multiple shipments to try to get it through customs. No more “Chinese warehouses reselling” gear at their “domestic” warehouse like they used to. Oh, and, nobody has picked up the true slack since the bust in China. It’ll be years before even the testosterone market normalizes again, and that’s with the hope the current admin eases on tariffs/customs oversight come midterms which will not happen most likely.

So, I disagree, the AAS industry will be heavily cooked most likely for the foreseeable future. And if it does start to normalize tomorrow, it will legit be years to be where it was at pre 2024.

The best advice to anyone is to stock up on testosterone and get a script. It ain’t normalizing and it won’t be okay anytime soon.

If it were so “ok” every vendor would have a good stock of testosterone when a good majority here don’t even have it domestically anymore. Lol. Maybe your company stocked up. Good for them. But nobody is “gtg”
 
yinjuju said:
100% disagree here

Customs are impossible to pass through currently. Even if the material is made, it takes multiple shipments to try to get it through customs. No more “Chinese warehouses reselling” gear at their “domestic” warehouse like they used to. Oh, and, nobody has picked up the true slack since the bust in China. It’ll be years before even the testosterone market normalizes again, and that’s with the hope the current admin eases on tariffs/customs oversight come midterms which will not happen most likely.

So, I disagree, the AAS industry will be heavily cooked most likely for the foreseeable future. And if it does start to normalize tomorrow, it will legit be years to be where it was at pre 2024.

The best advice to anyone is to stock up on testosterone and get a script. It ain’t normalizing and it won’t be okay anytime soon
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Nope, not cooked. trust me....... Sunrise is good into 2027.
 
Bolan said:
Nope, not cooked. trust me....... Sunrise is good into 2027.
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Good for sunrise 👍. But nobody is gtg for years. That’s irresponsible to say. Barely anything is being made and customs isn’t allowing most stuff in.
 
Interesting video! Hopefully, some folks here have experience with this and can share some real insights.
 
yinjuju said:
Good for sunrise 👍. But nobody is gtg for years. That’s irresponsible to say. Barely anything is being made and customs isn’t allowing most stuff in.
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Obviously you don't know how things work in this industry.
 
9Major Open said:
My Legal Test E from Amazon comes in 5ml or 10ml

Price isnt bad as well.
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Those same scumbags at amazon shut my store down for selling legal supplements, under the disguise of danger and are now selling Test E.

Why am I shocked each and every time a hypocritical pos shows its face. I hate amazon. This just makes me decide to use them less if at all

They wouldn't even let me sell "joint rebuild" bc its not FDA approved. NO suppz are fda approved.
 
GYMnTONIC said:
Those same scumbags at amazon shut my store down for selling legal supplements, under the disguise of danger and are now selling Test E.

Why am I shocked each and every time a hypocritical pos shows its face. I hate amazon. This just makes me decide to use them less if at all

They wouldn't even let me sell "joint rebuild" bc its not FDA approved. NO suppz are fda approved.
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I'm not renewing my Prime membership..... Damn packs never show
up on the date its suppose to.
Amazon has a new "prescription" list... Cant believe there selling test on AZN, but good for them!
 
Bolan said:
I'm not renewing my Prime membership..... Damn packs never show
up on the date its suppose to.
Amazon has a new "prescription" list... Cant believe there selling test on AZN, but good for them!
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I will be honest, for me they are very fast overall and effective

But when I had a store one time they tried to seize all my money in my merchant account, for zero reason. I called each customer who purchased that week and had them do a chargeback. So they all got their money back. They then sent me the cash through cash app.
People I didn't even know stood by my side. For weeks Amazon rep wouldn't call me. Then once all my customers did chargebacks he called me bitching it cost them several thousand dollars in bank fees as result.

That's what they get for being corrupt scumbags. They not only did that to me, or tried, but anyone who listed a pack from me as "not received" would immediately be refunded. Mind you, every single customer that tried that had tracking showing DELIVERED. And amazon allowed it and I had to fight for months to get the money back.

Amazon employees at the top are absolute trash. They are no different then Bezos. Someone needs to sue them for the monopoly they have with USPS.
 
Bolan said:
Obviously you don't know how things work in this industry.
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Lmfao. Do you brew for sunrise? You’re the only one on here saying there’s nothing to worry about industry-wide because sunrise has stuff. Cool. Not the case for 90% of vendors

Say where I’m wrong in anything I said.
 
GYMnTONIC said:
Those same scumbags at amazon shut my store down for selling legal supplements, under the disguise of danger and are now selling Test E.

Why am I shocked each and every time a hypocritical pos shows its face. I hate amazon. This just makes me decide to use them less if at all

They wouldn't even let me sell "joint rebuild" bc its not FDA approved. NO suppz are fda approved.
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Thats wild considering they don't check anyone who sells supplements. Most of those vitamin sellers are people in their garage lol.
 
jpe1 said:
Thats wild considering they don't check anyone who sells supplements. Most of those vitamin sellers are people in their garage lol.
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To be fair.

In 2025 they did change some rules (I used to sell on Amazon).

They force every supplement company to get tested randomly throughout the year, many times they make it blind samples.

They’ll test a few vitamins in the bottle HPLC, for adulterants, contaminants, etc. but usually it’s just one test per batch, and companies won’t have a new batch for 2 years so of course they could pas the test then start selling bunk. But Amazon has been better about testing for consumers overall.

Not to say they aren’t a horrible company. They force the vendors to pay for the testing that Amazon inflates and chooses. So, if it’s a $6000 test (including their Amazon testing fee) the vitamin vendor is paying all that and Amazon profits mostly on it
 
GYMnTONIC said:
Those same scumbags at amazon shut my store down for selling legal supplements, under the disguise of danger and are now selling Test E.

Why am I shocked each and every time a hypocritical pos shows its face. I hate amazon. This just makes me decide to use them less if at all

They wouldn't even let me sell "joint rebuild" bc its not FDA approved. NO suppz are fda approved
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Amazon Pharmacy is a tad different than regular as i needed to send them my prescription , still though it does suck they closed you down Wes.
 
yinjuju said:
To be fair.

In 2025 they did change some rules (I used to sell on Amazon).

They force every supplement company to get tested randomly throughout the year, many times they make it blind samples.

They’ll test a few vitamins in the bottle HPLC, for adulterants, contaminants, etc. but usually it’s just one test per batch, and companies won’t have a new batch for 2 years so of course they could pas the test then start selling bunk. But Amazon has been better about testing for consumers overall.

Not to say they aren’t a horrible company. They force the vendors to pay for the testing that Amazon inflates and chooses. So, if it’s a $6000 test (including their Amazon testing fee) the vitamin vendor is paying all that and Amazon profits mostly on it
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Nice, learned something new today. Glad they’re at least trying to work that out it used to be pretty bad with that stuff on there. I’m surprised though, with their mandated testing that they don’t display the results on the product page kind of like a Jano test with date.
 
jpe1 said:
Nice, learned something new today. Glad they’re at least trying to work that out it used to be pretty bad with that stuff on there. I’m surprised though, with their mandated testing that they don’t display the results on the product page kind of like a Jano test with date.
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Yeah, don’t get me wrong. They are still a horrible company for the most part. But the testing rules for supps on Amazon is better now than a year ago, that’s for sure. And they continue to get more and more strict.

But they were forced to up their testing rules because so many products in sexual health had laced Viagra and CIALIS so they got sued and had to put this protocol in place as part of a court order. Not because they innocently wanted to.
 

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