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Cardarine GW-501516 Low dose vs High dose

Id love to try it High dose for 6 months, but cant afford it... Fuckin Electric bill is killing me this summer.
 
Your great!
No..
Lmao
And yes that's solid advice on how to approach..
Wiil shoot for a yes from you in few weeks!!.
Now that's my new goal for the momth!!!
Yes
😁
 
Startingover said:
Your great!
No..
Lmao
And yes that's solid advice on how to approach..
Wiil shoot for a yes from you in few weeks!!.
Now that's my new goal for the momth!!!
Yes
😁
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A cool study would be to have 3 groups eating at a specific daily caloric intake.

Group A does zero cardio w/ zero cardarine
Group B does zero cardio w/ cardarine dose of 10mg
Group C does specific amount of cardio w/ cardarine dose of 10mg

This would be a good indicator on whether or not there is a specific fat burning mechanism at hand and how much is added by expenditure.
 
Meetketchup said:
A cool study would be to have 3 groups eating at a specific daily caloric intake.

Group A does zero cardio w/ zero cardarine
Group B does zero cardio w/ cardarine dose of 10mg
Group C does specific amount of cardio w/ cardarine dose of 10mg

This would be a good indicator on whether or not there is a specific fat burning mechanism at hand and how much is added by expenditure.
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That would be interesting study!
 
I believe it does have some weight loss benefits but maybe just a secondary side effect from increased expenditure and not a direct influence. It also causes an increase in strength through increased muscle endurance and decreased recovery time, so I end up doing more work in the gym and burning more calories. Also I tend to do more cardio and at higher pace. So this could also translate to more expenditure though out the day as well with activities outside the gym.
 
It's odd, but I definitely notice a leaning effect from it that is not in my head. Even from no cardio times. So maybe some of what's being said indirectly can hit fat loss mechanisms.
 
Bolan said:
Id love to try it High dose for 6 months, but cant afford it... Fuckin Electric bill is killing me this summer.
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NV energy is killing me this summer.

That's why I went with PSL, 50tabs for 35 bucks at 20mg is a great deal
 
Started 8/4 you can clearly see what my weight was doing..
Same regemt,hydrated every day period end of story..
No major malfunctions in routineScreenshot_20230808-182156_MyNetDiary.jpg
 
Deezo said:
Lost nearly 10lbs in 4 days. That's 👌.
Great work man.
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Thanks Deezo
Crashed goal of 240..
235 next
No reason won't hit 230#?9/18 cycle ends
Shit after 230 maybe 225?????
If so would be 40#s while amassing muscle at same time.
That a big if??
But doable..
Just need to stay the course the last few weeks.
 
Get Shredded!
You really don't need more than 20mg a day . Risk to reward ratio .. no need to push th bubble on this.
 
Startingover said:
Thanks Deezo
Crashed goal of 240..
235 next
No reason won't hit 230#?9/18 cycle ends
Shit after 230 maybe 225?????
If so would be 40#s while amassing muscle at same time.
That a big if??
But doable..
Just need to stay the course the last few weeks.
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Good luck my friend. Losing too fast is just as bad as gaining too fast though, not really the healthiest IMO. But great work nonetheless and good luck in reaching your goals brother.
 
Man this forum changed my mind on Cardarine. I was super against it for a while, but yesterday morning I went in the collector stash and took 20mg. I guess I’m starting a trt cut 😂😂
 
Wiseguy said:
My favorite of all time. Been using it for about 8 years now and could not be happier.
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I used to use it all the time when I was “natural” but then got scared out of it. Still have a 50ml bottle figured why not after reading and reading and reading I think the odds are good that it’s safe to use.
 
JackedCarpenter33 said:
I used to use it all the time when I was “natural” but then got scared out of it. Still have a 50ml bottle figured why not after reading and reading and reading I think the odds are good that it’s safe to use.
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It definitely works. I take it on workout days and before sports events where I need cardio. I haven’t ran a prolonged ED cycle of it in a while.
 
JackedCarpenter33 said:
I used to use it all the time when I was “natural” but then got scared out of it. Still have a 50ml bottle figured why not after reading and reading and reading I think the odds are good that it’s safe to use.
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Yeah some info can and will steer you away!
WITH the C WORD!
But it really only mentioned in very high doses!
 
Startingover said:
Wiseguy??
Cycle on?
And how much time off?
All hypothetical of course..😁
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I run it along with every cycle, specially when running tren. It helps me continue doing my hour daily cardio without an issue and keeps my lipids in check. Total cholestrol 140 just 30 days after stopping 8 weeks of tren cycle.
 
JackedCarpenter33 said:
I used to use it all the time when I was “natural” but then got scared out of it. Still have a 50ml bottle figured why not after reading and reading and reading I think the odds are good that it’s safe to use.
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I have not read one documented study from a legit hospital or university that someone got cancer directly from using GW. If anyone finds anything please share. I know this product has been out for about 10 years now and who know maybe longer and the only thing I can find is that one study in rats that caused cancer.
 
Wiseguy said:
I have not read one documented study from a legit hospital or university that someone got cancer directly from using GW. If anyone finds anything please share. I know this product has been out for about 10 years now and who know maybe longer and the only thing I can find is that one study in rats that caused cancer.
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Indeed. I have been following this product on multiple threads since 2017 and never heard of a single negative side effect, let alone cancer. The human trials had no ill effects either. As far as the cancer study in rats, they were genetically mutated to develop cancer and given a cancer causing substance along with the cardarine over their entire lifetime. Human equivalent dosing, despite what everyone says was about 45 mgs at the lowest rat dose. Still, there were other studies which showed that it actually prevented colon and prostate cancer. After sitting on the fence for years, I finally ordered some. I don’t see any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, that this will cause cancer when running lower dose cycles. Rather, I have seen many people reap the benefit of improved fat loss, glucose levels, lipids, even reducing NAFL.
 
Jruck166 said:
Ye

It's crazy because the rat studies is 5mg per kg, so human equivalent would be cranking 450mg a day for a 200lb male. That's intense.😳 They even did a 30mg per kg which was 2.7G a day for a 200lb adult. That's why I was curious if 40-100mg would really be negative.
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That’s not the correct conversion. Everybody gets this wrong brother. You can’t take the rat dose and multiply it by the percent difference in rat weight vs human. There is a scientific formula used in research The lowest rat dose of 3 mg = 45 mg for an 80kilo person.
 
JimGainz said:
That’s not the correct conversion. Everybody gets this wrong brother. You can’t take the rat dose and multiply it by the percent difference in rat weight vs human. There is a scientific formula used in research The lowest rat dose of 3 mg = 45 mg for an 80kilo person.
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You're right. I was wrong. Good correction.
 
I would be far more concerned about organ stress than cancer at high doses. After learning that it can stress the liver I just take 15mg a day. Cardarine has a long half life so you don't need to worry about taking it several times a day. I need to restock though.
 
Does any one have bloodwork to show changes in liver values? I’ve checked with a few people and it ranges from no impact to mild elevation. I think it depends on the source. There was yet another rat study that showed it caused fibrosis in the liver yet this was contradicted by other studies which showed it helped correct non alcoholic fatty liver. I’ve never heard of anyone running this that reported negative sides though
 
Here is a link to a great study involving 6 obese men given 10 mg/day of cardarine. Page 4 has a table summarizing the blood markers. The conclusion was that even in only 2 weeks there was significant reduction in blood glucose, LDL, oxidative stress and liver fat. The fluctuations in ALT were +/- 13 which I don’t know if it means it raised or lowered the values by up to 13 or that was the total difference between how much it raised or lowered (eg lowered up to 10 points in one person but raised it 3 in another). In any case it was viewed as an extremely positive result across various health markers.

 
2 Weeks out from my show and usually run it like this...

7-10 weeks out at 10mg
4-6 weeks out at 15mg
3 weeks to show at 20mg

If I honestly had only compound to run during prep it would be Cardarine. Not for fat loss, but for the ability to bang through the endless hours of cardio when on poverty calories. Also the HDL benefits when using orals is huge. To the guy above asking about liver values...It never effects mine (blood work.) That's me personally
 

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