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Awesome, I didn't see his post when I searched before making this thread. I got some PSL tabs and want to run it at a higher dose.@Wiseguy might be able to help you. He runs Cardine during every cycle and has a log detailing his last cycle I believe it was. It worth a shot. Let's see if he knows.
I agree with RDM, anything over 20-25 and the only real change is to your wallet.You don't need more than 20mg a day in my opinion.

Thanks my friend. I've been running GW for 6-7 years with every cycle. I have never gone over 20mg because one I don't know if there is any benefit beyond what I get at 20mg and two zero sides. It helps my cardio significantly. I do one hour of cardio every morning and I fly through it. Tren is known to kill cardio, but when I am on GW zero difference. Also, absolutely the best for controlling cholestrol. I ran tren/test/primo/Var/Mast/Halo for my last show and 60 days after the cycle my total cholestrol was 140.@Wiseguy might be able to help you. He runs Cardine during every cycle and has a log detailing his last cycle I believe it was. It worth a shot. Let's see if he knows.
Nice!.can you do split10?gs and 10mgs few hours later?Thanks my friend. I've been running GW for 6-7 years with every cycle. I have never gone over 20mg because one I don't know if there is any benefit beyond what I get at 20mg and two zero sides. It helps my cardio significantly. I do one hour of cardio every morning and I fly through it. Tren is known to kill cardio, but when I am on GW zero difference. Also, absolutely the best for controlling cholestrol. I ran tren/test/primo/Var/Mast/Halo for my last show and 60 days after the cycle my total cholestrol was 140.
My all time favorite.
Hope this helps.
All at once I take it around 3 am right before heading to the gym.Nice!.can you do split10?gs and 10mgs few hours later?
Or all in am?
From my personal experience none. I get going pretty quickly and when I discontinue it take a while before I feel a slight drop on endurance.Interesting topic, I use 20mg a day. There not much out there in human studies.
Another question I have is how long do you need to preload before you reach peak cardiovascular endurance. Currently I preload 3-7 days before sports events. Anyone have any info on this?
It's crazy because the rat studies is 5mg per kg, so human equivalent would be cranking 450mg a day for a 200lb male. That's intense.Interesting topic, I use 20mg a day. There not much out there in human studies.
Another question I have is how long do you need to preload before you reach peak cardiovascular endurance. Currently I preload 3-7 days before sports events. Anyone have any info on this?
They even did a 30mg per kg which was 2.7G a day for a 200lb adult. That's why I was curious if 40-100mg would really be negative.Most low dose I've heard of just reports cardio/cholesterol benefits, that's why I'm so curious if at low dose it's cardio beneficial, and at a higher dose of the ppar fat burning would kick in. Because the mice studies of the body mass are done at high dosages. I just wish it had human trials.Anyone else notice an actual direct help on fat loss, irrespective of the cardio benefit? Or na
Has a half-life of 16 hours. You feel it very quickly.Interesting topic, I use 20mg a day. There not much out there in human studies.
Another question I have is how long do you need to preload before you reach peak cardiovascular endurance. Currently I preload 3-7 days before sports events. Anyone have any info on this?
Hmm yes interesting. And what would you consider higher dose? I'm scared to go there with info being so limitedMost low dose I've heard of just reports cardio/cholesterol benefits, that's why I'm so curious if at low dose it's cardio beneficial, and at a higher dose of the ppar fat burning would kick in. Because the mice studies of the body mass are done at high dosages. I just wish it had human trials.
This is why you always start at the lowest possible dose and evaluate. If you need to raise it, you do so in increments.Most low dose I've heard of just reports cardio/cholesterol benefits, that's why I'm so curious if at low dose it's cardio beneficial, and at a higher dose of the ppar fat burning would kick in. Because the mice studies of the body mass are done at high dosages. I just wish it had human trials.
No. It just gives you tons of energy to keepAnyone else notice an actual direct help on fat loss, irrespective of the cardio benefit? Or na
As I suspected. So if you aren't doing good amount of cardio it's basically a useless compound to run, correct?No. It just gives you tons of energy to keep
Going, but it’s not a fat burner
1st I've heard it doesn't produce fat loss?As I suspected. So if you aren't doing good amount of cardio it's basically a useless compound to run, correct?
Not necessarily, the studies they do have say it affects the twitch muscle fibers increasing athletic performance. So basically you gas out slower, you can just keep going in the gym that includes weights, and cardio. Your overall endurance goes up, and you can use that to lift more volume.As I suspected. So if you aren't doing good amount of cardio it's basically a useless compound to run, correct?
There is no mechanism by which this compound directly induces fat loss. I suggest people spend more time researching the studies and chemical process by which it impacts the body instead of believing what a few bros say in a forum. Research PPARbeta/delta agonist, monocarboxylic acid, etc. In basic language, it changes the way the body utilizes fat, but you must induce energy to burn the fat. It doesn't do it by itself. Didn't mean this to come across harsh at all. Just don't go by what others say and do your own research. After knowing how the compund actually works, then take into account what others say. A lot of people have no idea what the hell they are talking about.1st I've heard it doesn't produce fat loss?
I'm running now only bw 3rd day
I'll know shortly on fat loss 1st hand..
Something tells me it's is good for far loss from my visual already!
I've searched info before pulling the trigger.
Every article I read..
Stressed it's fat loss properties
Also the big C was mentioned just as much as fat loss
..But I'm a beleiverc8n 1st Hand experience with compoumds,sarms,peps,etc
I do one hour of cardio daily like clock work. For me I notice the difference how I run or pedal or swim faster in one hour while on GW vs when off so the advantage is that you get much better stamina and push harder. For example you might do easily 5 miles per hour on treadmill but with GW 6 miles will feel even easier. Also, the cholesterol control portion is phenomenal.As I suspected. So if you aren't doing good amount of cardio it's basically a useless compound to run, correct?
I here ya on going off others...There is no mechanism by which this compound directly induces fat loss. I suggest people spend more time researching the studies and chemical process by which it impacts the body instead of believing what a few bros say in a forum. Research PPARbeta/delta agonist, monocarboxylic acid, etc. In basic language, it changes the way the body utilizes fat, but you must induce energy to burn the fat. It doesn't do it by itself. Didn't mean this to come across harsh at all. Just don't go by what others say and do your own research. After knowing how the compund actually works, then take into account what others say. A lot of people have no idea what the hell they are talking about.
Thanks bro. AwesomeI do one hour of cardio daily like clock work. For me I notice the difference how I run or pedal or swim faster in one hour while on GW vs when off so the advantage is that you get much better stamina and push harder. For example you might do easily 5 miles per hour on treadmill but with GW 6 miles will feel even easier. Also, the cholesterol control portion is phenomenal.
NoI here ya on going off others...
Why I said I'll know for my self soon enough..
For what it's worth
Been stuck atc246/245
Same calories,routime,etc.
For what ever reason today woke 4.2#s lighter..
241.6
Now is it caradrine?
Can't say..
But can say timing of rhis is pretty peculiar.
Wouldn't you agree?



