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Curlieque said:
No, there will be Israel and the nations( gentiles) that all survive the tribulation, though a big portion of the world population will be gone. Once Israel is gathered up on ( most likely) feast of Trumpets, there will be 10 days of wrath for the nations who rejected Him.

Paul did not waste his time with believers and those once gentiles( of the (pagan) nations). Paul equipped brothers to worship in spirit and truth, which he got after his Damascus road experience. I think a lot of people don't understand what Paul was actually teaching as even Peter said he was hard to understand.
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Your message is not clear here. Paul's letters to Corinthians were exactly about spending his time guiding that early group of Christians that were living among and intermarrying with pagans etc. This caused much strife, confusion and required his guidance. the Corinthians were Greek Christians and not of the tribes of Israel. They were gentiles. during this whole period of the early church the cultures were mixed and developing the Christian faith. Many parts of the bible deal with such conflict. The books of Kings is loaded with such. Example, the Moabites interactions with the Israelites.
 
Glycomann said:
I meant the King James Bible rather than the Scofield Reference Bible. That is the one I thought you were referencing. His bible skewed towards Zionism.
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When I was a kid I went to a private Baptist school. We had to memorize scripture in the KJV. Later when I took Seminary classes we were encouraged to use NKJV or Greek from the Majority Text. I own easily a dozen Bibles of different types. I think Zionism is inherent in the Bible regardless of translation.

Some of my books. Bible just means book.
 

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Departure is coming

The dark spirit of the evil one is rapidly covering the earth. It seems that the Church Age is almost over as its role to influence society and win people for the coming reign of Yeshua is nearing its end.

The world will soon be evangelized by the 144K.
 

Jonathan Cahn first appeared on the scene 12 years ago with his mysterious book, The Harbinger. His latest effort, The Dragon’s Prophecy: Israel, the Dark Resurrection and the End of Days features the precise accuracy of God’s prophecies. Digging deeper into Ezekiel’s prophecies and Revelation, you’ll understand the horrors facing Israel today. Antisemitism is straight from the Dragon himself and this disease has infected the whole world, even people in our churches.
 
heavyiron said:
When I was a kid I went to a private Baptist school. We had to memorize scripture in the KJV. Later when I took Seminary classes we were encouraged to use NKJV or Greek from the Majority Text. I own easily a dozen Bibles of different types. I think Zionism is inherent in the Bible regardless of translation.

Some of my books. Bible just means book.
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Yes you are well read in the Christian faith. Samuel Untermeyer, a zionist at the start of the movement leading up to the Balfour Declaration, was likely a major funder of Schofield. The Schofield Reference Bible first edition was published in 1908. It and its following editions played a major part in the Christian Zionist Movement.
 
Glycomann said:
Yes you are well read in the Christian faith. Samuel Untermeyer, a zionist at the start of the movement leading up to the Balfour Declaration, was likely a major funder of Schofield. The Schofield Reference Bible first edition was published in 1908. It and its following editions played a major part in the Christian Zionist Movement.
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Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

I think theologians were in a tough spot before 1917. There was no path for an established Jewish state so many of the Bible prophecies had to be spiritualized. However the Bible clearly lays out an eschatology of the Jews. Some folks took that literally in faith and others did not. I think the folks that took the literal view back then had great faith and were proven right. Regardless of how it happened we are here and many other prophecies are aligning. What a time to be alive.
 
heavyiron said:
Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

I think theologians were in a tough spot before 1917. There was no path for an established Jewish state so many of the Bible prophecies had to be spiritualized. However the Bible clearly lays out an eschatology of the Jews. Some folks took that literally in faith and others did not. I think the folks that took the literal view back then had great faith and were proven right. Regardless of how it happened we are here and many other prophecies are aligning. What a time to be alive.
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I really would have a lot of reading to do and have not enough time left in my life to do all that I would want to. I read and write nearly all da everyday for my occupation. Then I come here in my leisure time and read and write some more plus probably read through several papers in relation to what we do here. As far as the major religions, including Christianity,I see a lot of nefarious works by a number of groups that have had their hands in the pie. What I try to do every day is to walk in the ministry of Christ.
 
Glycomann said:
I really would have a lot of reading to do and have not enough time left in my life to do all that I would want to. I read and write nearly all da everyday for my occupation. Then I come here in my leisure time and read and write some more plus probably read through several papers in relation to what we do here. As far as the major religions, including Christianity,I see a lot of nefarious works by a number of groups that have had their hands in the pie. What I try to do every day is to walk in the ministry of Christ.
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I have read your replies for a while now and you are on the right track IMHO. Paul is the apostle to the Gentiles. We are the Gentile Church or as Paul says, "The Body of Christ". Paul's directives when speaking to Gentiles is what we should focus on. It's good to have an understanding of the other books but they give specific directives to Israel that have zero application to us in some cases. Acts demonstrates the transition. Romans to Philemon are our marching orders.
 
heavyiron said:

The Error of Replacement Theology​

Has the Church replaced Israel?​

By Dr. David R. Reagan

christinprophecy.org

The Error of Replacement Theology

The argument that the Church is the fulfillment of all the Bible’s kingdom prophecies is not the only error of Amillennialism.
christinprophecy.org
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Yep too many believe that the church has replaced the jews.. but they havent, they have been grafted into the fold… by grace…

But what would have happened to all of us IF the jewish people had believed? Would we have ever existed??


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j2048b said:
Yep too many believe that the church has replaced the jews.. but they havent, they have been grafted into the fold… by grace…

But what would have happened to all of us IF the jewish people had believed? Would we have ever existed??


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I personally believe that the Jews in Acts 2 were just about to enter the tribulation (Daniels 70th week) but because all the religious Jewish leaders rejected the resurrected Messiah in Acts 5-7 Daniels 70th week was put on hold and the administration of the Grace of God was initiated. No idea what would have happened if they had all believed. Very good question.
 
As a Christian, this is the Israel I look forward to seeing with the Jewish Messiah enthroned in Jerusalem ruling over Israel and the rest of the Gentile world.

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Amir Tsarfati

The western wall last night. Thousands of Jewish worshippers, ahead of Yom Kippur, are singing/chanting/praying the famous liturgical song: “Lord of forgiveness” LORD OF FORGIVENESS We have sinned before You, have mercy upon us. Lord of forgiveness, Examiner of hearts. Revealer of the...
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One of my favorite books is Ephesians, here’s a great point of truth to meditate on and be encouraged with

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed and worthy of praise be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realms in Christ,

The Holy Spirit is not only how we are sealed for eternity in Christ. He also facilitates our daily fruit of the Spirit and He is the power of every spiritual blessing granted us in Christ Jesus. Once we are saved, our spiritual gifts and spiritual blessings are immediate and given without repentance, these gifts and blessings are not only for us, moreover, they are for those He knew (predestined) we would come across in our life (assigned to us). So, while youre out and about today spread the love of God through your smile, greetings and peace that surpasses understanding, you may be surprised how often God uses you to personally bless another mans life, peace and blessings ASF bros, you are a minister of reconciliation for Christ!

View: https://youtu.be/mbkYijXb5HQ?si=u8FqJY7aXxGpoefw
 
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Pope says all religions lead to God. Jesus says nope.

1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe in Me as well. 2 In My Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and welcome you into My presence, so that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”

5 “Lord,” said Thomas, “we do not know where You are going, so how can we know the way?”

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”
 
We're told to come out of her ( man made religion). Every religion/ denomination has made up rules and beliefs. Worship in spirit and truth. It's not our faith, and His faith. Walk the narrow path. Man, it's tough!
 
Who is God? This will be a multi post topic. Warning, your preconceived ideas are going to get blown up here.

This question has been a favorite topic of mine for decades. There are many good books on the names of God and what they mean but I want to lay out some conclusions I have come to over the years. Some of this will be very straight forward but some of it will be illuminating and maybe even scary. My goal is to fill in some gaps and reveal exactly who God is as much as is humanly possible.

The first name for God in Hebrew is Elohim. It denotes plurality and can fairly be translated "Divine Counsil". Often it is rendered "God".

Genesis 1 In the beginning Elohim (The divine Counsil) created the heavens and earth.

What makes this so interesting is the word Elohim also refers to beings that are not God. Psalm 82 blows up most Chrisitan's ideas about Elohim. The following article helps make sense of Elohim.

www.logos.com

Who Are the Elohim? The Answer Might Rattle Your Theology

Who are the Elohim? Is it God? Multiple gods? Read Dr. Michael Heiser’s explanation of the origin of the Elohim from The Unseen Realm.
www.logos.com www.logos.com
 
Slightly off topic but relative:


Olympic athlete banned for five months over religious gesture at Paris Games​

 
YHWH is the personal name of God. Because Hebrew has no vowels, we are not sure how to pronounce His name. Yahweh is the most likely, but it could also be Jehovah or Yehovah. The Jews many times would not use this personal name as they were concerned that they would accidentally take His name in vain. They would write Hashem instead which means The Name.

www.gotquestions.org

What is YHWH? What is the tetragrammaton? | GotQuestions.org

What is YHWH? Who is Yahweh? What is the tetragrammaton? Is God’s name Yahweh or Jehovah? Jehova
www.gotquestions.org

www.gotquestions.org

What is the meaning of Hashem? | GotQuestions.org

What is the meaning of Hashem? Why do Jews sometimes say Hashem instead of the name of God?
www.gotquestions.org
 
I have a question for some of you scholars in here and I mean that respectfully.

Ok so we see in the Bible, GOD existed. Well his first children, according to many theories were Michael and Azrael. Twins. Michael the Archangel and azrael is a female, that is his twin sister and whether you agree with me or not, that in theory is Satan. Aka lucifer is Michaels twin. There is much debate about this, but nevertheless.

WHO IS THE MOTHER? Or is there not one? Where do these children come from? The children of God. Is it how he made Adam on Earth and Eve? Or is there a mother?

Where did Satans spirit come from? If God existed and he is perfection and love and then Michael and Azrael came next and Michael is an archangel and satan is his twin. How did Satan originate from God? Does this question make sense to anyone?

I want to see what you all have to say!
 
GYMnTONIC said:
Ok let me ask my first question

Revelations speaks about the Tribulation and the Rapture. It also speaks about many "horsemen"

I see it mention the Eagle, which I get is the USA. The Bear, which I get is Russia.

But what does it all mean. I can't make sense of it. Which comes first? When does it occur?
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Do yourself a favor my friend and don’t try to make too much sense of Revelation. It’s exceptionally confusing for the most intense Biblical Scholars.

The overall theme is: Jesus is King and He wins. Other than that…maybe some interesting rabbit holes for sure…but not overtly easy to interpret and apply anything past Chapter 5.

I have some good book recommendations and/or commentaries if you’re interested.
 
GYMnTONIC said:
What is the precise mechanism according to the Bible?

Lets say an ASF member like me is reading this. What is it that needs to happen to justify belief , forgiveness and acceptance??
I hope this helps
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30 “And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved” Acts 16: 30-31 KJV

This would be the person and work of Jesus Christ (perfect life, died on the cross for sins and was resurrected from the dead).
 
GYMnTONIC said:
I have a question for some of you scholars in here and I mean that respectfully.

Ok so we see in the Bible, GOD existed. Well his first children, according to many theories were Michael and Azrael. Twins. Michael the Archangel and azrael is a female, that is his twin sister and whether you agree with me or not, that in theory is Satan. Aka lucifer is Michaels twin. There is much debate about this, but nevertheless.

WHO IS THE MOTHER? Or is there not one? Where do these children come from? The children of God. Is it how he made Adam on Earth and Eve? Or is there a mother?

Where did Satans spirit come from? If God existed and he is perfection and love and then Michael and Azrael came next and Michael is an archangel and satan is his twin. How did Satan originate from God? Does this question make sense to anyone?

I want to see what you all have to say!
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Azrael is not a Biblical character. Its in Islam and non canonical books like Enoch.

God created all angels. They do not procreate with each other according to the Bible.

Satan is a created angel who disobeyed YHWH. Therefore angels like us have free will.
 
Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
 

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