Bible Thread

[CowboyPump77]

There have been recordings of objects exceeding speeds of known aircraft and changing directions in ways that defy physics. These were highly sophisticated radar systems that recorded the data. Looks like the info is not being hidden anymore.

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/n...e-reportedly-expected-to-reveal-some-findings

Which is exactly how anti-gravity technology would work. Which I am inclined to believe we have. They are just spoon feeding the public....

 

[Motojg]

I have heard a theory that demons pose as "aliens"

I don't know if its true, but if that was the case, it would explain pre-flight "aliens". I know going back to B.C in Egypt, etc, they had drawings of UFO's in tombs, etc. Maybe they were sightings or maybe they were preminitions.

Will be interesting the day it comes out.

Project Blue Beam interests me...

This reminds me of the stories of Skinwalker Ranch. Lots of reports of things that sound like aliens and others that sound like demons.

 

[Multislacking]

There have been recordings of objects exceeding speeds of known aircraft and changing directions in ways that defy physics. These were highly sophisticated radar systems that recorded the data. Looks like the info is not being hidden anymore.

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/n...e-reportedly-expected-to-reveal-some-findings

The release of this info a few years ago was surprising. I've been following the Unidentified show on the History channel with some interest. Kind of a rehash, but quite a bit of detail.

 

[killagorilla]

Don't want to hijack this thread, and maybe it's already been touched on earlier, but I'd like to hear from fellow believers in Christ how they deal with their faith and the fact that we're breaking the law doing what we do (i.e. using gear). It's a constant struggle for me. I will NEVER walk away from my faith, but at the same time, although I've given up a lot of things for my faith, using steroids is one I haven't surrendered yet. I know this is a tough one, but I'd like to hear some thoughts.

Thanks

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[Multislacking]

Don't want to hijack this thread, and maybe it's already been touched on earlier, but I'd like to hear from fellow believers in Christ how they deal with their faith and the fact that we're breaking the law doing what we do (i.e. using gear). It's a constant struggle for me. I will NEVER walk away from my faith, but at the same time, although I've given up a lot of things for my faith, using steroids is one I haven't surrendered yet. I know this is a tough one, but I'd like to hear some thoughts.

Thanks

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No where does it say "thou shalt not pin". You're good to go.

Seriously though, with that reasoning, driving over the speed limit would be sinning.

 

[dale.c]

Honestly anything that is against the laws that were put here by the lawgivers is sinning but it also says that we all fall short and none are deserving of the Lords glory but he forgives and loves us all, so I personally believe that as long as i am doing all i can to be honorable and a good man and that i am not a stumbling block to any other than im all good and will still be going to heaven !! As a matter a fact i was just baptized on fathers day and am a man of very strong faith. I raised my son by myself from the time he was seven months old and he is in his second year of college which he’s going as to be a pastor. I feel i raised him right and instilled good values in him and gear has been a part of my life for quite some years now so really bro i think you’ll be fine. But that’s just me and mine do what you feel in your heart is right.


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[Multislacking]

Honestly anything that is against the laws that were put here by the lawgivers is sinning

I think I'm probably not understanding your intent. But... Are you saying if I broke a Nazi law in Germany in the 1940's that I'd be sinning? Man made laws are not God's law. Some may be based on them, like thou shalt nor murder, shalt not steal, etc. But if the govt suddenly instituted a law tomorrow saying I had to pass my children through the fire of Moloch, I wouldn't do it.

 

[Milford King]

Concerning steroids and God. Please remember steroids were legal until the early mid 90’s and are still legal in other countries. If you need trt for health you can be prescribed test legally.

God wants his warriors in tip top shape, so pin away.... just make sure you get that cardio in.

fight the good fight!

 

[E.J.D]

Leviticus 19 New King James Version
19 1 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2 "Speak to all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say to them: 'You shall be holy, for I the Lord your God am holy. 3 'Every one of you shall revere his mother and his father, and keep My Sabbaths: I am the Lord your God. 4 'Do not turn to idols, nor make for yourselves molded gods: I am the Lord your God. 5 'And if you offer a sacrifice of a peace offering to the Lord, you shall offer it of your own free will.

 

[CowboyPump77]

I think I'm probably not understanding your intent. But... Are you saying if I broke a Nazi law in Germany in the 1940's that I'd be sinning? Man made laws are not God's law. Some may be based on them, like thou shalt nor murder, shalt not steal, etc. But if the govt suddenly instituted a law tomorrow saying I had to pass my children through the fire of Moloch, I wouldn't do it.

I may be wrong but I recall some passage that says obey god's law and the laws of the land but God's law comes first.

 

[GYMnTONIC]

Devils Advocate:

The law of the land makes abortions legal. I highly doubt that if God were here at this very moment, he would want us following that law and ethically and morally ok with it.

The issue is we are in such a corrupt time period, all bets are off imo.

I do recall reading somewhere about "Vanity" in the Bible, but I forget precisely what. That would be my concern as a former bodybuilder, that I am putting vanity over something more important, such as my health.

 

[dale.c]

Devils Advocate:

The law of the land makes abortions legal. I highly doubt that if God were here at this very moment, he would want us following that law and ethically and morally ok with it.

The issue is we are in such a corrupt time period, all bets are off imo.

I do recall reading somewhere about "Vanity" in the Bible, but I forget precisely what. That would be my concern as a former bodybuilder, that I am putting vanity over something more important, such as my health.

I may be wrong but I recall some passage that says obey god's law and the laws of the land but God's law comes first.

Gods law and the law of the land with Gods first as should always be and are the only ones that matter are what i was referring to brother and yes vanity is a form of one of the seven deadly sins from the bible which are pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth. It can be confusing during these trying times as the world is in chaos but as long as what we do is just by the Lord it is Good. In no way would the Lord want us killing baby’s !! And wes brother i believe in my heart that you are on a good path and are forgiven for your sins.


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[dale.c]

I think I'm probably not understanding your intent. But... Are you saying if I broke a Nazi law in Germany in the 1940's that I'd be sinning? Man made laws are not God's law. Some may be based on them, like thou shalt nor murder, shalt not steal, etc. But if the govt suddenly instituted a law tomorrow saying I had to pass my children through the fire of Moloch, I wouldn't do it.

Not at all brother, God would never want nor ask you to follow such insanity. Im not so good with words sorry if i cant elaborate as well as other’s.


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[CowboyPump77]

Not at all brother, God would never want nor ask you to follow such insanity. Im not so good with words sorry if i cant elaborate as well as other’s.


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Dale,

I say this with all sincerity.... I do not post in this thread much, but I check it out and read it because, the guys posting in it have been on point, and are helping me work through my own issues. I am far from perfect like God are savior is, and I am always happy to hear the input from you all. I try to be better, I fail, but I always dust myself back off and try again. I still have tons to work on and I hope you all keep this going. I am at the point when I get a break from school I plan on picking the bible up and reading it completely.

 

[E.J.D]

Jude 1 New King James Version

1 1 Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, To those who are called, sanctified [1] by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ: 2 Mercy, peace, and love be multiplied to you.

Judgment on False Teachers
3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. 4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God [2] and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

8 Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" 10 But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah. 12 These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about [3] by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; 13 raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever. 14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints,

15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him." 16 These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage.

Warnings and Exhortations
17 But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: 18 how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. 19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit. 20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction; [4] 23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, [5] hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.

Concluding Doxology
24 Now to Him who is able to keep you [6] from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, 25 To God our Savior, [7] Who alone is wise, [8] Be glory and majesty, Dominion and power, [7] Both now and forever. Amen.

 

[E.J.D]

John 11:35 New King James Version
35 Jesus wept.

 

[Multislacking]

John 11:35 New King James Version
35 Jesus wept.

Shortest verse in the bible for all you trivia fans.

 

[so1970]

John 11:35 New King James Version
35 Jesus wept.

As jesus already knew he was going to raise Lazarus why do you suppose that he wept

 

[Milford King]

As jesus already knew he was going to raise Lazarus why do you suppose that he wept

Either green mile type of thing or... Lazarus wasn’t worthy of revival



or love of life

 

[E.J.D]

As jesus already knew he was going to raise Lazarus why do you suppose that he wept

I believe he wept because of the deep seeded compassion he felt for Lazarus sisters and fellow mourner's. Showing that even though he knew he would die then be raised again that he was moved and identified with their sorrow and pain. God has compassion for our sadness. My take.

 

[E.J.D]

Proverbs 27:17 New King James Version
17 As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend.

 

[Multislacking]

As jesus already knew he was going to raise Lazarus why do you suppose that he wept

33 When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come along with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in spirit and troubled.

One, He felt bad for her. Two, He knew even with all His power and the evidence thereof there would still be people who did not believe. Even now, they commented on how Lazarus had been dead so long he would be stinking. Almost a "nice try, you should have gotten here earlier" type mentality.

 

[dale.c]

HEBREWS 13:3 ~ Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.


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[E.J.D]

Isaiah 53:4-5 NKJV
Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed.

 

[GYMnTONIC]

Read something yesterday

I forget if it was Revelations or about revelations

But it spoke of 144,000 people.

Who are these people and what does it mean?

 

[Multislacking]

Read something yesterday

I forget if it was Revelations or about revelations

But it spoke of 144,000 people.

Who are these people and what does it mean?

Refers to the 12 tribes of Israel and 12,000 were "reserved" from each. Some people use this to support the theory that only 144K will make it to heaven and you have to be super, super good. But it doesn't work that way.

 

[Multislacking]

Refers to the 12 tribes of Israel and 12,000 were "reserved" from each. Some people use this to support the theory that only 144K will make it to heaven and you have to be super, super good. But it doesn't work that way.

If you're into numbers, that was post #7777 for me. Coincidence?

 

[E.J.D]

Refers to the 12 tribes of Israel and 12,000 were "reserved" from each. Some people use this to support the theory that only 144K will make it to heaven and you have to be super, super good. But it doesn't work that way.

You beat me to it. Thanks

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If you're into numbers, that was post #7777 for me. Coincidence?

I don't believe in coincidence myself. Soooo yeah take it as you may. Lol

 

[E.J.D]

Mark 3:13-19
New King James Version
The Twelve Apostles(A)
13 (B)And He went up on the mountain and called to Him those He Himself wanted. And they came to Him. 14 Then He appointed twelve, [a]that they might be with Him and that He might send them out to preach, 15 and to have power [c]to heal sicknesses and to cast out demons: 16 [d]Simon, (C)to whom He gave the name Peter; 17 James the son of Zebedee and John the brother of James, to whom He gave the name Boanerges, that is, “Sons of Thunder”; 18 Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus, Simon the Cananite; 19 and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed Him. And they went into a house.

 

[so1970]

This is the day that the lord has made, I will rejoice and be glad in it. Psalms 118:24