Astro95 USP - Primo 100 & Masteron 200 BLIND TEST RESULTS

[KellogCrush]

Some people might get unnecessarily harsh. USP isn’t H&B.

What point are you trying to make here?

 

[Omoplata]

What point are you trying to make here?

USP, unlike other events, has refunded immediately and taken responsibility. He deserves at least a chance for patience and privacy.

We are buying UGL, 50/50 chances of mess up. Happened to me with a vendor here, they fixed it, dealt with it in PM, moved on.

Not insinuating anything else.

 

[KellogCrush]

USP, unlike other events, has refunded immediately and taken responsibility. He deserves at least a chance for patience and privacy.

We are buying UGL, 50/50 chances of mess up. Happened to me with a vendor here, they fixed it, dealt with it in PM, moved on.

Ok but what does that have to do with what I requested and your response

 

[Bigjape34]

I sort of have to agree with omaplate here in a sense. The vendor has acknowledged the mistake and been proactive in refund. I’m sure they are willing to discuss in private and you guys can divulge to the board but everyone of these threads turns into a shit show. Not that it’s not warranted but than mods have to come clean up the thread etc. that mentality I want an open board answer now sounds childish price message get your answer and then share it with the board or move on

 

[Vee]

I sort of have to agree with omaplate here in a sense. The vendor has acknowledged the mistake and been proactive in refund. I’m sure they are willing to discuss in private and you guys can divulge to the board but everyone of these threads turns into a shit show. Not that it’s not warranted but than mods have to come clean up the thread etc. that mentality I want an open board answer now sounds childish price message get your answer and then share it with the board or move on

Yup

 

[KellogCrush]

I sort of have to agree with omaplate here in a sense. The vendor has acknowledged the mistake and been proactive in refund. I’m sure they are willing to discuss in private and you guys can divulge to the board but everyone of these threads turns into a shit show. Not that it’s not warranted but than mods have to come clean up the thread etc. that mentality I want an open board answer now sounds childish price message get your answer and then share it with the board or move on

I’m literally just asking what happened that caused the supposed mix up

 

[Sector.]

USP, unlike other events, has refunded immediately and taken responsibility. He deserves at least a chance for patience and privacy.

We are buying UGL, 50/50 chances of mess up. Happened to me with a vendor here, they fixed it, dealt with it in PM, moved on.

Not insinuating anything else.

50/50 chance of messing up?

If you’re UGL is messing up half the time you need to find a better UGL imo. Shouldn’t be 50/50

 

[Bigjape34]

I’m literally just asking what happened that caused the supposed mix up

I get that and the sponsor literally said he won’t discuss it in the open so why don’t you try and get your answer through a Pm instead of dragging on this thread and it getting derailed and taking away from mods time etc. not saying don’t get your answer but it was clearly stated they weren’t bringing it up here

 

[Omoplata]

50/50 chance of messing up?

If you’re UGL is messing up half the time you need to find a better UGL imo. Shouldn’t be 50/50

This business is risky. It’s a part of the game. Trust and patience are what I’ve seen are required to purchase UGL.

 

[KellogCrush]

I get that and the sponsor literally said he won’t discuss it in the open so why don’t you try and get your answer through a Pm instead of dragging on this thread and it getting derailed and taking away from mods time etc. not saying don’t get your answer but it was clearly stated they weren’t bringing it up here

I just requested he shares.

It’s also not derailing because it’s relevant to this literal threads purpose.

You guys are weird sometimes.

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

You guys being soft on sources is why we’re in the this situation. Dutch has been fucking people for who knows how long and everyone’s cool with a few refunds and some sorries.

Buying UGL gear shouldn’t be 50/50, ever. Start airing out sources with bad testing, floaters, and whatever other issues arise and I guarantee we’ll see an uptick in quality sources that send what they advertise.

 

[PRorER]

This business is risky. It’s a part of the game. Trust and patience are what I’ve seen are required to purchase UGL.

Yes this business is risky, but this isn’t the 1990’s where you get what you get and there is no accountability. There’s so many options now a days, look at all the sponsors on this forum, that implying mistakes are made is simply ignorant.

If a source can’t openly talk about why a compound was completely different then what was advertised, then they don’t deserve business. Sure, giving refunds is taking some accountability but that doesn’t instill confidence that it won’t happen again

 

[Omoplata]

Yes this business is risky, but this isn’t the 1990’s where you get what you get and there is no accountability. There’s so many options now a days, look at all the sponsors on this forum, that implying mistakes are made is simply ignorant.

If a source can’t openly talk about why a compound was completely different then what was advertised, then they don’t deserve business. Sure, giving refunds is taking some accountability but that doesn’t instill confidence that it won’t happen again

A completely valid point.

 

[Bigjape34]

You guys being soft on sources is why we’re in the this situation. Dutch has been fucking people for who knows how long and everyone’s cool with a few refunds and some sorries.

Buying UGL gear shouldn’t be 50/50, ever. Start airing out sources with bad testing, floaters, and whatever other issues arise and I guarantee we’ll see an uptick in quality sources that send what they advertise.

I don’t think anyone’s saying be soft on em. If a sponsor won’t indicate what happened it’s a sponsor I wouldn’t buy from but coming in here demanding an answer that was already told wouldn’t be given seems like an asinine thing to do in my opinion and a waste of time. What are you hoping for an answer that he’ll only tell you in private that’ll change your mind and want to buy from them again? Let’s use common sense here. They fucked up along with other sponsors has it happened before absolutely will it happen again absolutely do I think it’s malicious all the time no but Jesus Christ is that answer that you “want” really gunna make you buy from that sponsor again and change your mind. That’s being soft on a sponsor. Not pushing an issue that someone already clearly stated they wouldn’t discuss in from of the board is just common sense either chalk it up as a loss or the sponsor has something to hide.

 

[KellogCrush]

I don’t think anyone’s saying be soft on em. If a sponsor won’t indicate what happened it’s a sponsor I wouldn’t buy from but coming in here demanding an answer that was already told wouldn’t be given seems like an asinine thing to do in my opinion and a waste of time. What are you hoping for an answer that he’ll only tell you in private that’ll change your mind and want to buy from them again? Let’s use common sense here. They fucked up along with other sponsors has it happened before absolutely will it happen again absolutely do I think it’s malicious all the time no but Jesus Christ is that answer that you “want” really gunna make you buy from that sponsor again and change your mind. That’s being soft on a sponsor. Not pushing an issue that someone already clearly stated they wouldn’t discuss in from of the board is just common sense either chalk it up as a loss or the sponsor has something to hide.

But me asking what happened is too harsh?

I’d say that’s pretty soft

 

[Nobodyishere]

@thebiggestdumbass @KellogCrush

Why are they so emotionally invested in these ugls

 

[KellogCrush]

@thebiggestdumbass @KellogCrush

Why are they so emotionally invested in these ugls

I assumed others would’ve given a shit too to know why their primo was mast at 2x the dose but I guess I miscalculated

 

[Maxwell]

dudes on vacation and is handling the problem. what more do you guys want? him to throw someone under the bus?

I know it's hard to believe but there is such thing as human error.

like my grandpa use to say the only person not making any mistakes is the person not doing anything.

 

[KellogCrush]

dudes on vacation and is handling the problem. what more do you guys want? him to throw someone under the bus?

I know it's hard to believe but there is such thing as human error.

like my grandpa use to say the only person not making any mistakes is the person not doing anything.

Are you guys fucking high? I literally just asked “what happened to cause the mishap”

Jesus Christ. I don’t even understand what the hell your grandpas quote has to do with any of this shit. You guys are the ones if anything absolutely content with him not given any detail beyond it being human error.

 

[Bigjape34]

Are you guys fucking high? I literally just asked “what happened to cause the mishap”

Jesus Christ. I don’t even understand what the hell your grandpas quote has to do with any of this shit. You guys are the ones if anything absolutely content with him not given any detail beyond it being human error.

No we’re saying your the one whose asking for something that’s been stated won’t be given for what reason. If it’s such a fuck up what they did don’t use them as a sponsor. What is their “answer” truly going to do for you and do you actually expect a real truthful answer. You sound insane

 

[Maxwell]

@KellogCrush pretty sure the reps already spilt the beans... I mean unless you don't believe the two people being very truthful throughout this entire experience.

it was human error what more needs to be said. that someone put the wrong sticker on the vial? well that was already said.

and RIP Pete.. gramps was a awesome person.

 

[JB4976]

No we’re saying your the one whose asking for something that’s been stated won’t be given for what reason. If it’s such a fuck up what they did don’t use them as a sponsor. What is their “answer” truly going to do for you and do you actually expect a real truthful answer. You sound insane

Drop

 

[KellogCrush]

No we’re saying your the one whose asking for something that’s been stated won’t be given for what reason. If it’s such a fuck up what they did don’t use them as a sponsor. What is their “answer” truly going to do for you and do you actually expect a real truthful answer. You sound insane

I sound insane because after he said I’m not going in to detail, my single comment requesting he does sparked all of you to come to his defense saying take it easy on him and I’m being too harsh.

Got it.

You guys can keep letting all these sponsors walk all over you then complain and be shocked when your next Janoshik test comes back bad then.

 

[Bigjape34]

Now your putting words in people mouths . As you can clearly see I said anyone who feels comfortable buying from them now especially after not getting the real story is not the smartest right now in my opinion. Talking to you is like talking to a wall. Good luck getting your answer that will
Solve all your problems

 

[KellogCrush]

Now your putting words in people mouths

Where did I do this

 

[Nobodyishere]

Where did I do this

You GOTTA feel like ur arguing with women rn

 

[KellogCrush]

You GOTTA feel like ur arguing with women rn

I wasn’t even looking to get any jimmies rustled. Just was curious if he’d be willing to expand upon what happen as it seemed brushed over.

I had no idea there was such loyalty to brands here or such a massive amount of honor held in the sources in general.

 

[Maxwell]

@KellogCrush have you read this entire thread? the issue was discussed just not by the owner who's on vacation and has bad internet service. if you did not catch the reason I'd suggest rereading this thread.

 

[Syntha Claus]

The amount of older, dormant alts that have become active lately is ridiculous. Or, are we supposed to believe these guys are legitimate members who were always here and for some reason, decided to start "contributing"?

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

I don’t think anyone’s saying be soft on em. If a sponsor won’t indicate what happened it’s a sponsor I wouldn’t buy from but coming in here demanding an answer that was already told wouldn’t be given seems like an asinine thing to do in my opinion and a waste of time. What are you hoping for an answer that he’ll only tell you in private that’ll change your mind and want to buy from them again? Let’s use common sense here. They fucked up along with other sponsors has it happened before absolutely will it happen again absolutely do I think it’s malicious all the time no but Jesus Christ is that answer that you “want” really gunna make you buy from that sponsor again and change your mind. That’s being soft on a sponsor. Not pushing an issue that someone already clearly stated they wouldn’t discuss in from of the board is just common sense either chalk it up as a loss or the sponsor has something to hide.

I don’t even want answers from this specific source but you guys sucking him off and saying “it is what it is” is why we’re seeing this shit.

The bare minimum a source can do is test raws then finished oils for EVERY batch they make. Obviously the first isn’t happening which is why we’re here now