Anyone ever play around with Steroid Plotter?

[jozifp103]

Anyone ever play around with Steroid Plotter? It's supposed to calculate blood levels based on compound, dose, injection frequency etc. But it seems off... I put 500mg Test Enanthate per week injected every 3.5 days and my highest peak blood level throughout the entire 12 week cycle was 130mg. Play around with it and let me know if anyone thinks it's off. My results are below.


https://www.steroidplotter.com/

 

[jozifp103]

 

[220]

If I am reading the graph correctly, it does not show serum blood levels. It shows how many milligrams of that compound are released per day.

 

[Multislacking]

If I am reading the graph correctly, it does not show serum blood levels. It shows how many milligrams of that compound are released per day.

^ This. Steroid plotter was a straight copy of steroidcalc and that is what it did. If memory serves me.

 

[Vision]

This thing has been around for a minute, and people misinterpret the peaks and valleys.
Certainly on paper (on the graph) it would seem ideal to try and chase a set schedule to keep serums high as possible. What people need to understand is that medications in general and when we talk about PEDs specifically, and in this topic testosterone cyp or E, cMax will take anywhere from 24 hours to 48 hours, and that will be at 400% higher than it's intended level after several days with the specific ester, even after several days the individual is still at supraphysiological levels.
It's an interesting graph, people will chase those numbers just like they do with chasing numbers on a scale. The other week I pulled my bloods 14 hrs post injection only because of a scheduling conflict. That was at 200mg test cyp and normally by day 6 my levels historically have been around 7ish.. 14 hours post I was 1796 TT, 632 FT.. That was my TRT schedule dosage 6 days a week.
If I was ON with 200mg cyp M/W/F and these are pulled around 6 weeks at full hormonal saturation, they would have been way higher.

These results will differ between individuals. Clearly we all know that.
No one is having the same identical response like a bunch of clones.

These graphs are more for generating something entertaining with an idea of what could potentially happen, but they serve no real life application.
But they're fun to play with.

 

[Multislacking]

I think steroidcalc is a useful tool...it gives a visual representation of what is going on in general. Is it super precise? Probably not. But if you're running a new compound and would like a guesstimate of roughly what it is doing, it is nice. Specifically if you are comparing esters and would like to estimate a pinning schedule. It should at least shorten the "trial and error" phase for a beginner.

 

[jozifp103]

If I am reading the graph correctly, it does not show serum blood levels. It shows how many milligrams of that compound are released per day.

​Yep I think you're right. Especially since it says release mg/day right above the damn graph lol. Not sure how I missed that one.

 

[Vision]

I think steroidcalc is a useful tool...it gives a visual representation of what is going on in general. Is it super precise? Probably not. But if you're running a new compound and would like a guesstimate of roughly what it is doing, it is nice. Specifically if you are comparing esters and would like to estimate a pinning schedule. It should at least shorten the "trial and error" phase for a beginner.

Precisely.

I'm 'assuming' the graph is simplifying serum/hormone release as it states, and the visuals with peaks and dips 'obviously', I assume the program has mg as its the default figure when adding the amount and compound. To understand it or the interpretation would be to gauge the values and the degree and frequency with changes and how deep the blue sea will go. If it was gauging mg release eventually that would grow significantly(ester depending), the graph shows the greater > amount maintained . Its definitely a neat little tool to play with
I didn't see sust, reason I bring that up, cuz that would be a great example of how buildups and release times can be quit heavier than people think over time. Beginners underestimate the build up with long esters and how they can actually have a whooping amount in their bloods in just a matter over weeks. It does display the build up if a beginner looks at the body with the values from reaching its lowest point, compared to maintained values, it's not the peaks that are of most importance, but rather getting the body with the values to stay full like a tank of water for as long as possible, with shortening the valleys. Clearly you know this, I'm just mentioning for those who are not familiar with reading these charts and calculating a basic idea of what could be taking place with the drug of choice.

 

[Multislacking]

I would have sworn the original had sust in there, but I guess not. (I have it saved to hard drive.) Good catch. But now that I look at it and think about it, it makes sense it doesn't have blends in there. Guys would have been requesting updates for every blend they could think of.

 

[Vision]

I would have sworn the original had sust in there, but I guess not. (I have it saved to hard drive.) Good catch. But now that I look at it and think about it, it makes sense it doesn't have blends in there. Guys would have been requesting updates for every blend they could think of.

If I was a betting man, I would say the original had sust. Could you imagine other cocktails?

It does give you an overlay, so someone could manually add the doses as labeled.

Women be looking on their social medias on one end of the sofa, dudes be playing with a steroid plot on the other end. Relationship goals!

 

[zionoir626]

Yeah
She's googling how to improve his penis lenght
And
He's planning 32 wks of Deca..
Z...

 

[Vision]

Yeah
She's googling how to improve his penis lenght
And
He's planning 32 wks of Deca..
Z...

Her search engine says "why don't I make him hard anymore"
His search engine says "roid plotter" haha

 

[zionoir626]

Wait
I'll bet Max has a dick plotter..lol
Z...

 

[Vision]

Wait
I'll bet Max has a dick plotter..lol
Z...

What if I told you that Max is the plotter, for all plotters that do plotting, without Max's plotting plotters , plotters couldn't properly plot.

 

[zionoir626]

Damn Max and his hair..
Z...

 

[maxmuscle1]

What if I told you that Max is the plotter, for all plotters that do plotting, without Max's plotting plotters , plotters couldn't properly plot.

Damn Max and his hair..
Z...

Lmao! I don’t know how I missed ….this PLOT !



Max

 

[Vision]

Lmao! I don’t know how I missed ….this PLOT !



Max

😂😂

 

[maxmuscle1]

Look

Max does Lots of plotting !

So funny

 

[Multislacking]

Is that Max's secret to hair growth?! Chia seeds? I knew there was a secret!

BTW....I would totally buy this:

 

[Vision]

Is that Max's secret to hair growth?! Chia seeds? I knew there was a secret!

BTW....I would totally buy this:

We purchased one, it didn't grow shit. Seriously. The infomercials is lies I tell you..

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Look

Max does Lots of plotting !

So funny

THIS MADE MY DAY!! 😅😂🤣🤣

 

[Glycomann]

It would be better if it estimated in ng/dL. It is an easy converstion. Given a 200 lb male with 6800 mL blood volume the calculation for the 20 mg mark would from a 200 mg injection at the first week ofa 6 week course would yield 294 ng/dL. Given the extracellular volume would approximately 3x that volume would result in ~ 882 ng/dL. That is very close to the average total testosterone level +/- 2 standard deviations at 95% confidence level at peak for a man on 200 mg per week. The program could easily be modified to do this and even add a selection for body weight to adjust the estimate.

 

[maxmuscle1]

We purchased one, it didn't grow shit. Seriously. The infomercials is lies I tell you..

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THIS MADE MY DAY!!

I seriously was smiling , laughing , and intrigued. Such an odd thing , my name is used for everything. A Dick sucker Machine “ Max Auto Blow 2 “ lmao.


Max

 

[Multislacking]

It would be better if it estimated in ng/dL. It is an easy converstion. Given a 200 lb male with 6800 mL blood volume the calculation for the 20 mg mark would from a 200 mg injection at the first week ofa 6 week course would yield 294 ng/dL. Given the extracellular volume would approximately 3x that volume would result in ~ 882 ng/dL. That is very close to the average total testosterone level +/- 2 standard deviations at 95% confidence level at peak for a man on 200 mg per week. The program could easily be modified to do this and even add a selection for body weight to adjust the estimate.

Nice.

 

[TheOldJJdigs2]

This thing has been around for a minute, and people misinterpret the peaks and valleys.
Certainly on paper (on the graph) it would seem ideal to try and chase a set schedule to keep serums high as possible. What people need to understand is that medications in general and when we talk about PEDs specifically, and in this topic testosterone cyp or E, cMax will take anywhere from 24 hours to 48 hours, and that will be at 400% higher than it's intended level after several days with the specific ester, even after several days the individual is still at supraphysiological levels.
It's an interesting graph, people will chase those numbers just like they do with chasing numbers on a scale. The other week I pulled my bloods 14 hrs post injection only because of a scheduling conflict. That was at 200mg test cyp and normally by day 6 my levels historically have been around 7ish.. 14 hours post I was 1796 TT, 632 FT.. That was my TRT schedule dosage 6 days a week.
If I was ON with 200mg cyp M/W/F and these are pulled around 6 weeks at full hormonal saturation, they would have been way higher.

These results will differ between individuals. Clearly we all know that.
No one is having the same identical response like a bunch of clones.

These graphs are more for generating something entertaining with an idea of what could potentially happen, but they serve no real life application.
But they're fun to play with.

This board is lucky to have you Vision. You’re a smart guy..

 

[zionoir626]

He's the guy you want on your team,if you crash on a deserted island full of crazy one eyed monsters with huge penises..lol
Z...