Acute Usage of Proviron for CNS Performance

[Bloopetron]

This one is interesting. Proviron is one of the few AAS options (not really anabolic, but whatever that’s besides the point) which has profound CNS benefits including confidence, dominance, anxiolytic, and depression minimizing effects. I’ve personally experienced all of these within a short time.

The main downside seems to be primarily cosmetic with hair loss impacts which makes sense since it’s basically oral DHT.

I’m testing out if I can reap the acute CNS performance benefits, for example during high stakes meetings, but avoiding hair loss impacts via spare usage over every day/twice a day usage.

If anyone has experience with this please feel free to chime in.

I’ll try sharing my updates if anyone gives a shit haha.

 

[Androgenocide]

This one is interesting. Proviron is one of the few AAS options (not really anabolic, but whatever that’s besides the point) which has profound CNS benefits including confidence, dominance, anxiolytic, and depression minimizing effects. I’ve personally experienced all of these within a short time.

The main downside seems to be primarily cosmetic with hair loss impacts which makes sense since it’s basically oral DHT.

I’m testing out if I can reap the acute CNS performance benefits, for example during high stakes meetings, but avoiding hair loss impacts via spare usage over every day/twice a day usage.

If anyone has experience with this please feel free to chime in.

I’ll try sharing my updates if anyone gives a shit haha.

Are you on testosterone?

 

[Bloopetron]

Are you on testosterone?

I am not, I should’ve clarified. Those on T probably won’t notice as stark as an effect, but definitely should be noticeable

 

[Vision]

This one is interesting. Proviron is one of the few AAS options (not really anabolic, but whatever that’s besides the point) which has profound CNS benefits including confidence, dominance, anxiolytic, and depression minimizing effects. I’ve personally experienced all of these within a short time.

The main downside seems to be primarily cosmetic with hair loss impacts which makes sense since it’s basically oral DHT.

I’m testing out if I can reap the acute CNS performance benefits, for example during high stakes meetings, but avoiding hair loss impacts via spare usage over every day/twice a day usage.

If anyone has experience with this please feel free to chime in.

I’ll try sharing my updates if anyone gives a shit haha.

It won't really work like a true neurosteroid by using it alone.

For its properties with improving the neurotransmitter communications, with an enhanced sense of well-being, given the fact that it's a very good neurosteroid, it performs best in those cases when someone is on a minimum of trt.

Taking it by itself doesn't really add much benefit come plus it could be slightly suppressive, but only to those that have high, or above normal high natural testosterone levels, levels are known to slightly decrease but that's it.

For people that have normal or within a normal range, there's no changes.

 

[Bloopetron]

It won't really work like a true neurosteroid by using it alone.

For its properties with improving the neurotransmitter communications, with an enhanced sense of well-being, given the fact that it's a very good neurosteroid, it performs best in those cases when someone is on a minimum of trt.

Taking it by itself doesn't really add much benefit come plus it could be slightly suppressive, but only to those that have high, or above normal high natural testosterone levels, levels are known to slightly decrease but that's it.

For people that have normal or within a normal range, there's no changes.

Respectfully disagree, I took this for 6 weeks alongside low dose enclo mainly to lower SHBG (mine is naturally high, and enclo can further raise it) and thought it was the most powerful non stimulatory med I’ve ever taken. Completely eliminated any anxiety, increased my performance drive, vascularity through the roof, facial definition changes, voice deeper and fuller, and some other changes.

There are also countless of other anecdotes sharing the same thing, some people even refer to it as the limitless pill. I wouldn’t go that far, but I can see why some people think it, when on it I legitimately looked forward to tough conversations and situations.

 

[Vision]

Respectfully disagree, I took this for 6 weeks alongside low dose enclo mainly to lower SHBG (mine is naturally high, and enclo can further raise it) and thought it was the most powerful non stimulatory med I’ve ever taken. Completely eliminated any anxiety, increased my performance drive, vascularity through the roof, facial definition changes, voice deeper and fuller, and some other changes.

There are also countless of other anecdotes sharing the same thing, some people even refer to it as the limitless pill. I wouldn’t go that far, but I can see why some people think it, when on it I legitimately looked forward to tough conversations and situations.

Well science and data strongly disagrees with your statement, that it couldn't lower the testosterone levels in someone that is on the high end - with a slight decrease to lower normal number. Example 900ng/dL, slight drop to high 700's.
In fact, there is about 5 years worth of a study Non-Stop with hundreds of participants,
Some participated longer.
This is all documented.

For yourself this may not have been the case.

 

[Bloopetron]

Well science and data strongly disagrees with your statement, that it couldn't lower the testosterone levels in someone that is on the high end - with a slight decrease to lower normal number. Example 900ng/dL, slight drop to high 700's.
In fact, there is about 5 years worth of a study Non-Stop with hundreds of participants,
Some participated longer.
This is all documented.

For yourself this may not have been the case.

I’m not arguing that it has the potential to lower T levels, I’m saying it absolutely produced CNS effects without someone being on T. Just go on any forum of your choice and read the anecdotes lol. And there is limited clinical trial data out there, and none of it contains any kind of assessment on confidence/cns performance so I’m not sure why you are referencing studies

 

[GYMnTONIC]

I've stayed on proviron at 25mgs Ed for more then a year straight several times. It's great alongside HRT. Def can thin or knock out hair but I'm bald so it doesn't matter. I get nice libido benefit and mild hardening and striations while on.

Affordable and a nice ancillary if libido and slight hardening in addition to your HRT is ur goal.

 

[Androgenocide]

I am not, I should’ve clarified. Those on T probably won’t notice as stark as an effect, but definitely should be noticeable

Keep me posted on your results

 

[Vision]

I’m not arguing that it has the potential to lower T levels, I’m saying it absolutely produced CNS effects without someone being on T. Just go on any forum of your choice and read the anecdotes lol. And there is limited clinical trial data out there, and none of it contains any kind of assessment on confidence/cns performance so I’m not sure why you are referencing studies

I'm pretty confident that I know a considerable amount of the potentials, possibilities and some amazing off label effects that this compounds can bring.
Truly, this is just a conversation. It's totally and completely unnecessary to use the word that were arguing that's not the case for my end.

Now if you would like, I could provide you with some very interesting information with this compound.

I'm certainly not new to it that's for sure.

 

[Buffalo]

...potentials, possibilities and some amazing off label effects...provide you with some very interesting information...

Pray tell kind sir @Vision

 

[Glycomann]

NO... TREN

 

[Algz]

Yes Proviron discussion! please continue guys!! I for one would like to know everything about it from direct usage experience to known info not easily found..

 

[BBruce]

I used Proviron with and without Test/TRT and it’s been useless all times I used it.

I bet placebo is strong in OP.

 

[Glycomann]

i THINK IT'S REALLY MOST USEFUL FOR ABOUT 3 THINGS.
1. An adjunct to TRT when you are in mid range normal and want a little boost in libido and drive.

2. When you are in a PCT and want a little boost that wont hit your HPTA much.

3. At high dose as a hardener when you are very lean.

the effect doesn't really last that long is not anabolic at all, is not toxic, barely touched the HPTA, is basically DHT so has some mood elevating effects. Use it for what its characteristics can provide. It was used for hypogonadism/androgen deficiency and depression going back into the late 1960s. some used it to boost sperm production. That's about it. It might have some slight AI activity being a DHT. It's really an ancillary and that's about it.

 

[Cypher]

voice deeper and fuller

There are also countless of other anecdotes sharing the same thing, some people even refer to it as the limitless pill.

Sure

Your voice isn't getting deeper from 6 weeks of Proviron.

 

[Vision]

Let's keep the talk going guys..

Let's continue to talk about the nootropic properties of Proviron.

 

[Cypher]

The conclusion is that this self-experiment is largely anecdotal and falls into the "panacea" trap. I would have been interested if he had added testosterone to the mix instead of relying on low-dose enclomiphene, which seems like an odd inclusion. I can definitely see how Proviron and testosterone would create a synergistic effect on the CNS, much like the well-documented interaction between Masteron and testosterone.

 

[Glycomann]

The conclusion is that this self-experiment is largely anecdotal and falls into the "panacea" trap. I would have been interested if he had added testosterone to the mix instead of relying on low-dose enclomiphene, which seems like an odd inclusion. I can definitely see how Proviron and testosterone would create a synergistic effect on the CNS, much like the well-documented interaction between Masteron and testosterone.

I'm not on board with this rational as some mind pump thing or whatever but if I was a natty or close and wanted to dabble a little, enclomiphene and Proviron would be interesting. Coming from natty I would bet it would give a boost.

 

[Cypher]

I'm not on board with this rational as some mind pump thing or whatever but if I was a natty or close and wanted to dabble a little, enclomiphene and Proviron would be interesting. Coming from natty I would bet it would give a boost.

OP has used GH... he lost his natty card.

 

[norm1]

Used Proviron at the end of a test/npp/mast prop run last winter when I ran out of mast. Used it 50mg day split morning and evening for 4 weeks until I went back to trt. Definitely felt the libido and mental well being aspect. Never experienced any mental nand sides while using the mast or Proviron. Planning on utilizing it again for a similar cycle later this year.


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[BIGDADDYPERK]

I’ve taken it for long periods of time trt and blast ..i absolutely loved it for libido main reason as well as supposed to help inhibit E2 . I can tell ya for a fact very large semen volume and ultra sensitive prolonged orgasms. even better lasting time and confidence in bed for sure. Shit even just peeing at random times of the day feeling like semen coming out feeling good lol
That was taking it twice a day morning and afternoon 25 mg . i’ve also taken it with other sources before and not noticed anything so perhaps those times it was not legit proviron but when it’s good, it’s good for that at least


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[Vision]

Maybe, if somebody made a really good nortropic gummy that had the two following compounds, that would be some fantastic brain candy.

Noopept (real noopept) & Proviron..

 

[Bloopetron]

I used Proviron with and without Test/TRT and it’s been useless all times I used it.

I bet placebo is strong in OP.

Love these comments lol yeah I placebo’d my way to 8 extra forearm veins

 

[Bloopetron]

Let's keep the talk going guys..

Let's continue to talk about the nootropic properties of Proviron.

this isn’t really debatable, proviron is well known for its CNS benefits haha and those happen very quick, you don’t need 4-6 weeks at steady state to notice effects.

It was literally developed as an anti depressant

 

[Bloopetron]

Sure

Your voice isn't getting deeper from 6 weeks of Proviron.

Got mistaken for having a cold several times in meetings since starting dosing. It has a very quick effect for pretty much anything androgens influence

I also have a pop punk tom delonge style natural voice so maybe that’s why it had such an immediate effect

 

[BBruce]

this isn’t really debatable, proviron is well known for its CNS benefits haha and those happen very quick, you don’t need 4-6 weeks at steady state to notice effects.

It was literally developed as an anti depressant

No it wasn’t, where do you get your information from, you know everything can be fact checked on Google, right?

“No, Proviron (mesterolone) was not originally developed as an antidepressant. It was developed by Schering in the 1960s as a prescription androgen medication used to treat male infertility, low testosterone (hypogonadism), and related conditions like libido loss and erectile dysfunction.”

“It does not carry Central Nervous System (CNS) stimulant benefits, as it works by balancing testosterone deficiencies and binding to SHBG to increase free testosterone.”

 

[Bloopetron]

No it wasn’t, where do you get your information from, you know everything can be fact checked on Google, right?

“No, Proviron (mesterolone) was not originally developed as an antidepressant. It was developed by Schering in the 1960s as a prescription androgen medication used to treat male infertility, low testosterone (hypogonadism), and related conditions like libido loss and erectile dysfunction.”

“It does not carry Central Nervous System (CNS) stimulant benefits, as it works by balancing testosterone deficiencies and binding to SHBG to increase free testosterone.”

I was referring to this clinical study

A comparison of the antidepressant effects of a synthetic androgen (mesterolone) and amitriptyline in depressed men - PubMed

The antidepressant effects of amitriptyline and mesterolone, a synthetic androgen, were compared in a double-blind parallel treatment design. The drugs were equally effective in reducing depressive symptoms. Mesterolone produced significantly fewer adverse side effects than amitriptyline.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And I never said CNS stimulant, just CNS effects in which it obviously does if it’s scoring equally to a legitimate antidepressant medication

 

[Vision]

this isn’t really debatable, proviron is well known for its CNS benefits haha and those happen very quick, you don’t need 4-6 weeks at steady state to notice effects.

It was literally developed as an anti depressant

You know absolutely nothing about this compound, it was used later as an alternative for off label properties with treating some men with depressive disorders.

You're right this isn't debatable, I'm just telling you right now, don't debate with me with this compound.

This may be something new to you but it certainly isn't to me.
Feel free to ask anyone in the community.

 

[BBruce]

I was referring to this clinical study

A comparison of the antidepressant effects of a synthetic androgen (mesterolone) and amitriptyline in depressed men - PubMed

The antidepressant effects of amitriptyline and mesterolone, a synthetic androgen, were compared in a double-blind parallel treatment design. The drugs were equally effective in reducing depressive symptoms. Mesterolone produced significantly fewer adverse side effects than amitriptyline.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And I never said CNS stimulant, just CNS effects in which it obviously does if it’s scoring equally to a legitimate antidepressant medication

I get it, you’re a bit new and a bit retarded. You’re excited that you found something new (to you) but we all know all about Proviron. Good for you that you (think) got all those effects from Proviron, placebo is one hell of a drug!