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90 Days GENLABS Clenbuterol Weight loss Challenge - Journey

CoffeeS said:
The first thing I do is re-check my diet and make sure I'm "on" - if not, I get back on it. If I am on, I try to figure out if I can cut another 100 - 200 calories out.

How's your cardio? Are you able to get in a longer period or 2x a day?

I fell off the diet for about a week and gained back 6 pounds. Pretty tough to cut anything on the YMS diet I was given, but I did cut the oatmeal to 1/2 cup instead of 1 full cup. I hope to be back at my lowest weight by next check in.
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I was trying to get away with no cardio, but I think steady state 2-3 times a week will be helpful.
 
Skywalker33! said:
Thoughts on adding T3 and cardarine to our exsisting stack? Just watched a video about them working well together just thought i would get your guys thoughts.
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No on the T3. Guys stop looking for quick fixes and do cardio. Unless you are deficient you don't fuck with T3.

Cardarine is fine for endurance when doing cardio.
 
Meetketchup said:
No on the T3. Guys stop looking for quick fixes and do cardio. Unless you are deficient you don't fuck with T3.

Cardarine is fine for endurance when doing cardio.
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I'm scared of that t3,prob never use it..
My food is low enough,I'm doing 5 30min sessions in am ..far away from training, if I would add anything, mayb clen,but definitely not there yet..my waist/lower back fat is stubborn, but that's where it's all at..it's good & bad lol
 
Jbswole40 said:
I'm scared of that t3,prob never use it..
My food is low enough,I'm doing 5 30min sessions in am ..far away from training, if I would add anything, mayb clen,but definitely not there yet..my waist/lower back fat is stubborn, but that's where it's all at..it's good & bad lol
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I think t4 is a better option if only taking one, but I wouldn't play with thyroid levels blindly.

Too high on t3 can accelerate muscle loss.
 
My check in pic shows how going off the prescribed diet screws you. A week of poor food choices set me back about 3 weeks. This pic is fasted, pre cardio and pre workout.

There's a little over 5 weeks left, time for me to get refocused.

weight is 187 this morning. Started at 202.

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CoffeeS said:
My check in pic shows how going off the prescribed diet screws you. A week of poor food choices set me back about 3 weeks. This pic is fasted, pre cardio and pre workout.

There's a little over 5 weeks left, time for me to get refocused.

weight is 187 this morning. Started at 202.

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Still looking good, it's good to reset your metabolism from time to time.
 
Meetketchup said:
No on the T3. Guys stop looking for quick fixes and do cardio. Unless you are deficient you don't fuck with T3.

Cardarine is fine for endurance when doing cardio.
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Ok so before yousre so quick to judge and comment do your homework. I have poasted all this info on this thread but- I average 28-35k steps a day do 3 miles of fasted hit cardio first thing in the a.m 6 days a week plus a 1 mile steady state warm up before i lift 6 days a week and end my workout with either 20 min on the elliptical or 1-2 miles hit cardio 6 days a week. I am in a pretty good deficate i average 2000 calories but i have some stubborn belly fat that i just cant shake. I was a headty 275lbs a few years back and just got under 200lbs it feels like i hit a wall. Deffinatley not loolimg for a quick fix was just lookimg for a educated science based response or explination. I have seen from several sources they have a synergistic effect with one another.
 
Skywalker33! said:
Ok so before yousre so quick to judge and comment do your homework. I have poasted all this info on this thread but- I average 28-35k steps a day do 3 miles of fasted hit cardio first thing in the a.m 6 days a week plus a 1 mile steady state warm up before i lift 6 days a week and end my workout with either 20 min on the elliptical or 1-2 miles hit cardio 6 days a week. I am in a pretty good deficate i average 2000 calories but i have some stubborn belly fat that i just cant shake. I was a headty 275lbs a few years back and just got under 200lbs it feels like i hit a wall. Deffinatley not loolimg for a quick fix was just lookimg for a educated science based response or explination. I have seen from several sources they have a synergistic effect with one another.
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There's anecdotal evidence that Anavar helps with stubborn belly fat.

Cardarine and/or GH can also help with it.

I'm not sure T3 would be a good option since there's a good chance of accelerated muscle loss, unless you pull bloodwork and see a deficiency.
 
Skywalker33! said:
Ok so before yousre so quick to judge and comment do your homework. I have poasted all this info on this thread but- I average 28-35k steps a day do 3 miles of fasted hit cardio first thing in the a.m 6 days a week plus a 1 mile steady state warm up before i lift 6 days a week and end my workout with either 20 min on the elliptical or 1-2 miles hit cardio 6 days a week. I am in a pretty good deficate i average 2000 calories but i have some stubborn belly fat that i just cant shake. I was a headty 275lbs a few years back and just got under 200lbs it feels like i hit a wall. Deffinatley not loolimg for a quick fix was just lookimg for a educated science based response or explination. I have seen from several sources they have a synergistic effect with one another.
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You have it all figured out apparently. Good luck.
 
aimanabolic said:
There's anecdotal evidence that Anavar helps with stubborn belly fat.

Cardarine and/or GH can also help with it.

I'm not sure T3 would be a good option since there's a good chance of accelerated muscle loss, unless you pull bloodwork and see a deficiency.
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Thank you t3 t4 are compounds i have no experience with so i appreciate the education.
 
Skywalker33! said:
Thank you t3 t4 are compounds i have no experience with so i appreciate the education.
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I haven't actually supplemented it, I may add in T4 if my next bloodwork confirms it's still low.

T4 will convert to T3 so generally you'd start there, I don't think it's ever recommended to take just T3 alone, but I'm still learning more about Thyroid.
 
aimanabolic said:
I haven't actually supplemented it, I may add in T4 if my next bloodwork confirms it's still low.

T4 will convert to T3 so generally you'd start there, I don't think it's ever recommended to take just T3 alone, but I'm still learning more about Thyroid.
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The thyroid is somethimg ive always been scared to biohack. But i feel like ive hit a wall i just cant get past. I am deffinatley putti.g in the work and have tried several other avenues. Hit core daily and one dedicated high impact core day a week. Switch up exercises to confuse the body. Run very low carbs and sugar. Water intake is great 1-1 1/2 gallons a day. Ive tried switching esters on my trt to help with water retention and keep my estrogen in check at all times. It sucks being a meat head in a fat boys body lol.
 
Meetketchup said:
No on the T3. Guys stop looking for quick fixes and do cardio. Unless you are deficient you don't fuck with T3.

Cardarine is fine for endurance when doing cardio.
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I agree 100% fucking with thyroid can be extremely dangerous, even after discontinuing. That’s the 1 thing besides dnp I won’t mess with. Granted I understand it’s different for competitors, t3 can do some serious damage.
 
Meetketchup said:
No on the T3. Guys stop looking for quick fixes and do cardio. Unless you are deficient you don't fuck with T3.

Cardarine is fine for endurance when doing cardio.
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I've heard of guys just taking a little T3 and it puts them WAY above maintenance. Def not something you want to guess at.

Now T4 is something different. Certain drugs, like HGH at high doses, accelerate conversion.

I already have a hard time gaining weight. I have to eat like 5k calories a day.
 
aimanabolic said:
I haven't actually supplemented it, I may add in T4 if my next bloodwork confirms it's still low.

T4 will convert to T3 so generally you'd start there, I don't think it's ever recommended to take just T3 alone, but I'm still learning more about Thyroid.
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T4 low dose is fine with gh because it’s going to be suppressed. T3 is a totally different animal. The problem is with t3 that after discontinuing use your TSH can rise rapidly and kill you. Taking too much t3 for too long will cause reformation of the heart, arrhythmia and possibly death. Coming off t3 can also be dangerous.

T4 is much more forgiving
 
JackedCarpenter33 said:
I agree 100% fucking with thyroid can be extremely dangerous, even after discontinuing. That’s the 1 thing besides dnp I won’t mess with. Granted I understand it’s different for competitors, t3 can do some serious damage.
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Battousai said:
I've heard of guys just taking a little T3 and it puts them WAY above maintenance. Def not something you want to guess at.

Now T4 is something different. Certain drugs, like HGH at high doses, accelerate conversion.

I already have a hard time gaining weight. I have to eat like 5k calories a day.
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Yes.

T3 is for two cases.

1) You are deficient via bloodwork

2) You are sub Sub 8-10% on very low calories and trying to shed that last little bit of fat. You only take for a short time. If you are over 10% there is absolutely no need for it and you can achieve getting under by diet and cardio.

Now @Skywalker33! We hit platues all the time. It takes time and I'm sure you are working hard and being sincere, but you might not be as dialed in as you think. Both are not mutually exclusive. You saying "switching up exercises to confuse the body" is just one example. That's nonsense. Also working core whether it's high impact or low impact is not going to lose bodyfat. It's calories in vs calories out at the end of the day.

I would recommend getting bloodwork done to see what your levels are first to see if you are low. If so incorporate T4 which signals your body to make more T3. Then get tested again, if still low then consider T3.

T3 is a fine line. You take too much on such low calories and intense training...you risk losing muscle. T3 is NOT musce sparing in the least. Also, I've seen people take months to get back to normal after using T3.

Just my advice of 20 plus years coaching people with T3/T4. If you want to run T3 then knock your socks off.
 
Meetketchup said:
Yes.

T3 is for two cases.

1) You are deficient via bloodwork

2) You are sub Sub 8-10% on very low calories and trying to shed that last little bit of fat. You only take for a short time. If you are over 10% there is absolutely no need for it and you can achieve getting under by diet and cardio.

Now @Skywalker33! We hit platues all the time. It takes time and I'm sure you are working hard and being sincere, but you might not be as dialed in as you think. Both are not mutually exclusive. You saying "switching up exercises to confuse the body" is just one example. That's nonsense. Also working core whether it's high impact or low impact is not going to lose bodyfat. It's calories in vs calories out at the end of the day.

I would recommend getting bloodwork done to see what your levels are first to see if you are low. If so incorporate T4 which signals your body to make more T3. Then get tested again, if still low then consider T3.

T3 is a fine line. You take too much on such low calories and intense training...you risk losing muscle. T3 is NOT musce sparing in the least. Also, I've seen people take months to get back to normal after using T3.

Just my advice of 20 plus years coaching people with T3/T4. If you want to run T3 then knock your socks off.
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Thank you for your wisdom and reply. Julie is appreciated. I was not claiming to be 100%. Dialed in. Ik im fsr from it and I know there's always room for improvement in everybody's regiment. I truly appreciate the help that's all i was looking for. But in no way am i looking for a cheat code or affraid of doing the hard work. I am a recovering, alcoholic and addict and have been working extremely hard for the past 4 years. And this is the reason I joined these forums was to learn from more educated experienced people. I have lost just over 80lbs and am finally startimg to see.the outline of my abs for the first time ever lol. Ik i have shit genetics and know i have no shot at being a competative body builder i just truly enjoy this lifestyle and biohacking. I have never experimented with any of the thyroid compounds so was just looking for a education. But thank you for your info bro
 
aimanabolic said:
With my wife finally working full time, I should be able to take a step back on the amount of hours I need to put in. That's the limiting factor for me right now.

I wake up at 3am to hit the gym before work, again for about 45 minutes at lunch, then don't get home until after 7pm.

Have my son doing MMA (6 yo) so hopefully I'll be able to incorporate something with him in the future.
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Hell yeah keep it up bro.
 
So I made it to the gym today. I started so strong and dropped 10lbs in a month and seen my abs in less then 4 weeks after being fat.

I will say my mistake was jumping into strict diet and workout without easing into it some. On top of that, I was working in the heat all day rigging for my company because we are short riggers.

My body definitely freaked out after about four solid weeks of super clean eating. I got a UTI and ended up getting extremely ill. I haven’t lifted in 2.5 weeks now or took another clen pill. I also think I got some form of walking pneumonia because when I exerted myself I’d feel sick and couldn’t breathe.

Honestly, I don’t know if I’m going to add the Clen back this week as I want to ease back into my diet and routine. I know there’s only 5 weeks left but I still feel I can push the envelope with another solid 4 weeks left. My midsection is already growing back that fast that quick. Easy come easy go.

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XOTG85 said:
So I made it to the gym today. I started so strong and dropped 10lbs in a month and seen my abs in less then 4 weeks after being fat.

I will say my mistake was jumping into strict diet and workout without easing into it some. On top of that, I was working in the heat all day rigging for my company because we are short riggers.

My body definitely freaked out after about four solid weeks of super clean eating. I got a UTI and ended up getting extremely ill. I haven’t lifted in 2.5 weeks now or took another clen pill. I also think I got some form of walking pneumonia because when I exerted myself I’d feel sick and couldn’t breathe.

Honestly, I don’t know if I’m going to add the Clen back this week as I want to ease back into my diet and routine. I know there’s only 5 weeks left but I still feel I can push the envelope with another solid 4 weeks left. My midsection is already growing back that fast that quick. Easy come easy go.

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What's the current weight bro ?

Jim
 
Had a solid week: Back on the YMS diet, dropped back down to my low weight - 186 this morning.

Clen is treating me very well, no sides to speak of on this 2nd round.

Workouts have been solid, cardio is good, I need to bump it up. Temperatures dropped form the high 90's and low 100's to the 70s so I'll be getting some evening road work in. Try to get into that "runners high"
Today was "pull" day. Back and bicep pumps were great. Taurine is keeping the cramps away. I have room to add weight, but am limited at the home gym so I bumped reps. I still feel like I need more exercises, but don't want any junk volume.

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