200mg Test C and 40mg Anavar

[Demonxx]

I have been on Trt for a year and half, started at 100mg test c and now im up to 200mg. I was thinking of running an 8 week cycle of 20mg Anavar twice daily. Any thoughts? I would appreciate feed back on my first cycle.

 

[BackShot]

That is a pretty standard first cycle. My only suggestion would be to start the var a 10-20mg then assess after a few weeks. Jumping right into 40 could cause issues.
Have you ever had bloods done?

 

[FearsomeCOR]

Pretty mild for sure. You can go for it if you’d like but I think you’d get more out of just bumping the test. Just grab some labs before to make sure you’re in a healthy dose to start pushing a bit more.

 

[MrWhisper]

I agree with the above suggestions man. Just bump the test after doing some bloodwork. Maybe even donate prior to starting. Bump to 300-400mg Test per week and do bloodwork to see how it affects your markers. It will set a good baseline for the future. Remember man it’s a marathon so take your time with bumping and adding additional compounds. I love Var but it fucks my lipids.

 

[Demonxx]

That is a pretty standard first cycle. My only suggestion would be to start the var a 10-20mg then assess after a few weeks. Jumping right into 40 could cause issues.
Have you ever had bloods done?

i get a full blood work from my doc every six months and my test once a month.

 

[Demonxx]

I agree with the above suggestions man. Just bump the test after doing some bloodwork. Maybe even donate prior to starting. Bump to 300-400mg Test per week and do bloodwork to see how it affects your markers. It will set a good baseline for the future. Remember man it’s a marathon so take your time with bumping and adding additional compounds. I love Var but it fucks my lipids.

i would like to bump up the test, my doctor has me check my test at least 3 every months to make sure i'm not going to supraphysiological levels. i have been checking every month but i do it on the day before i pin.

 

[MrWhisper]

i would like to bump up the test, my doctor has me check my test at least 3 every months to make sure i'm not going to supraphysiological levels. i have been checking every month but i do it on the day before i pin.

Just bump you test and pull back to a trt dose 2-3wks prior to bloodwork.

 

[Deepsea]

As the others said, bump the test. I started at 200mg for 8 weeks, upped my dose to 500mg for another 10 weeks then introduced 40mg Anavar which I have been running for a few weeks now, in the end I will run the var for 6 weeks and I feel amazing. The pumps are great and the results have been very noticeable, regularly getting comments about my physique and I look and feel like a completely different person. I went from ~25% BF to 14% since Feb and am still making steady strength gains in a cut. Good luck, get regular bloodwork every 5-6 weeks... I anticipate after the var my lipids are for sure a bit out of whack, to be expected.

 

[steroids-warehouse]

Since you already have a solid 200 mg testosterone base from your TRT, adding 40 mg of Anavar a day (20 mg twice daily) is actually a great, classic setup for a first cycle.

8 weeks is a bit long for an oral steroid and will put a lot of unnecessary stress on your liver and cholesterol, so you should cap the Anavar at 6 weeks max to keep your bloodwork from completely trashing.

 

[NoxyGen]

Since you already have a solid 200 mg testosterone base from your TRT, adding 40 mg of Anavar a day (20 mg twice daily) is actually a great, classic setup for a first cycle.

8 weeks is a bit long for an oral steroid and will put a lot of unnecessary stress on your liver and cholesterol, so you should cap the Anavar at 6 weeks max to keep your bloodwork from completely trashing.

Why twice a day, 20 is plenty once a day. Especially for a new person. Plus, Anavar is known to be taken much longer than 6 weeks. Even up to 12-16 in many cases. Titrate up after weeks and back down at the end, but once a day.

 

[19NorFan]

i would like to bump up the test, my doctor has me check my test at least 3 every months to make sure i'm not going to supraphysiological levels. i have been checking every month but i do it on the day before i pin.

Your dr is going to know you’re using the anavar from other bloodwork.

You can continue with 200mg test c per week and then layer 25mg/day of test prop on top and then drop the test prop a week before your next bloodwork. That will take you to 375mg/week total.

Just in general though, there’s about 4-5 other thing I’d rather use than anavar in this situation. 40mg/day will bury your hdl, raise liver enzymes and for not a whole lot of anabolism IMO.

 

[Demonxx]

Your dr is going to know you’re using the anavar from other bloodwork.

You can continue with 200mg test c per week and then layer 25mg/day of test prop on top and then drop the test prop a week before your next bloodwork. That will take you to 375mg/week total.

Just in general though, there’s about 4-5 other thing I’d rather use than anavar in this situation. 40mg/day will bury your hdl, raise liver enzymes and for not a whole lot of anabolism IMO.

what other things would you suggest

 

[steroids-warehouse]

Why twice a day, 20 is plenty once a day. Especially for a new person. Plus, Anavar is known to be taken much longer than 6 weeks. Even up to 12-16 in many cases. Titrate up after weeks and back down at the end, but once a day.

The reason for splitting it is the half-life—Anavar only lasts about 9 hours, so taking it twice a day keeps your levels stable instead of causing a big roller coaster drop by evening. And while people absolutely do run it for months, stretching an oral out to 12 or 16 weeks is a recipe for trashing your liver and crushing your HDL cholesterol, which is why capping a first run around 6 to 8 weeks is just basic harm reduction

 

[Demonxx]

The reason for splitting it is the half-life—Anavar only lasts about 9 hours, so taking it twice a day keeps your levels stable instead of causing a big roller coaster drop by evening. And while people absolutely do run it for months, stretching an oral out to 12 or 16 weeks is a recipe for trashing your liver and crushing your HDL cholesterol, which is why capping a first run around 6 to 8 weeks is just basic harm reduction

thank you

 

[NoxyGen]

The reason for splitting it is the half-life—Anavar only lasts about 9 hours, so taking it twice a day keeps your levels stable instead of causing a big roller coaster drop by evening. And while people absolutely do run it for months, stretching an oral out to 12 or 16 weeks is a recipe for trashing your liver and crushing your HDL cholesterol, which is why capping a first run around 6 to 8 weeks is just basic harm reductionWhat about cutting a 50 in quarters for the forst couple weeks?

Nice thanks. Im about 200 pounds. How about if I start with 25 (cut in half 50) and bump up after few weeks?? Im doing this for a show. I plan to take Nad injections the entire time along with a very good Vitamin Supp. Cutting that into quarters will be a pain in the ass unless its large.

 

[NoxyGen]

I agree with the above suggestions man. Just bump the test after doing some bloodwork. Maybe even donate prior to starting. Bump to 300-400mg Test per week and do bloodwork to see how it affects your markers. It will set a good baseline for the future. Remember man it’s a marathon so take your time with bumping and adding additional compounds. I love Var but it fucks my lipids.

You dont need to donate anything. You never should have to no matter what you are taking.

 

[MrWhisper]

You dont need to donate anything. You never should have to no matter what you are taking.

Well that can be debateable I guess. We all choose to go back and forth between “bro science” and “medical advice.” Some have success with it and some may not. It all up to you what you choose to do with your body. If you research the pros/cons one can always make the best decision for themselves.

 

[Meetketchup]

The reason for splitting it is the half-life—Anavar only lasts about 9 hours, so taking it twice a day keeps your levels stable instead of causing a big roller coaster drop by evening. And while people absolutely do run it for months, stretching an oral out to 12 or 16 weeks is a recipe for trashing your liver and crushing your HDL cholesterol, which is why capping a first run around 6 to 8 weeks is just basic harm reduction

Running var Pre Workout compared to 2x/day isn't going to yield much difference in gains but will in limiting side/bloods. Seen dozens of panels over the years using both methods and 1x will usually impact bloods slightly better results on the important markers. The more data we get the less blood concentration over such a short period of time becomes less important.

 

[19NorFan]

what other things would you suggest

From the perspective of gains vs health costs, any of these additions are better than anavar:

- Layering test prop on top of your long ester test base. 25mg/day of test prop will yield more anabolism than 25mg/day of anavar. However it won’t skew your lipids as much or raise liver enzymes. You might not even need estrogen control.

- 100mg/week of NPP. This will likely not move any of your blood markers for the worse. It’s individual dependent but of all the available compounds, NPP at these lower doses has no adverse impact on my bloodwork or really any sides. It’s one of the least androgenic compounds, so you don’t typically have to worry about prostate enlargement, hair loss, ance or any of the androgen sides that may come with anavar. It’s short acting so you can drop it before your next clinic bloodwork

- 2-3IU HGH per day. This addresses a completely different pathway for anabolism. 2-3IU a day should provide some immediate improvement to body comp and enhanced recovery.

 

[Demonxx]

From the perspective of gains vs health costs, any of these additions are better than anavar:

- Layering test prop on top of your long ester test base. 25mg/day of test prop will yield more anabolism than 25mg/day of anavar. However it won’t skew your lipids as much or raise liver enzymes. You might not even need estrogen control.

- 100mg/week of NPP. This will likely not move any of your blood markers for the worse. It’s individual dependent but of all the available compounds, NPP at these lower doses has no adverse impact on my bloodwork or really any sides. It’s one of the least androgenic compounds, so you don’t typically have to worry about prostate enlargement, hair loss, ance or any of the androgen sides that may come with anavar. It’s short acting so you can drop it before your next clinic bloodwork

- 2-3IU HGH per day. This addresses a completely different pathway for anabolism. 2-3IU a day should provide some immediate improvement to body comp and enhanced recovery.

if i were to do 100mg npp on top of my test, would i have to worry about an increase in estradiol

 

[19NorFan]

if i were to do 100mg npp on top of my test, would i have to worry about an increase in estradiol

If you daily dose it and assuming you are not carrying a ton of fat or drinking alcohol regularly, 200 test 100 npp should not give you high e2 sides.

That was my introduction into AAS. I started with trt at 150mgs test cyp. Then 200. Then 200 test cyp + 100 nandrolone decanoate. Clinics only carry decanoate in the US (or so I was told at the time) and that’s where I got it.

 

[NoxyGen]

I mean not really, NPP has a MUCH higher risk of Prolactin than Anavar. So you need Caber standing by.

 

[19NorFan]

I mean not really, NPP has a MUCH higher risk of Prolactin than Anavar. So you need Caber standing by.

Caber for 100mg? Absolutely not.

 

[NoxyGen]

Caber for 100mg? Absolutely not.

Ya not for 100. But in regular use.

 

[Algz]

if i were to do 100mg npp on top of my test, would i have to worry about an increase in estradiol

NPP 175/wk was my first mini cycle 10wks after my 200wk trt started no AI was needed. was great while it lasted, E2 climbed to 60ish.. I dropped it after 5 weeks or a little longer because of upcoming labs for Endo. I took 100mg/Day P5P the whole time and seemed good, prolactin came back @9 4wks later.
Everybody is different and I was pretty nervous as I didn’t have Caber at the time.. I do have it now though . I definitely gave me five years back on my joints thank goodness for that.. I’m due again but this time Caber is on hand and the NPP dosage will reflect this..

Anavar messes with my kidneys and lipids not really liver which is nice for a change..

 

[steroids-warehouse]

Nice thanks. Im about 200 pounds. How about if I start with 25 (cut in half 50) and bump up after few weeks?? Im doing this for a show. I plan to take Nad injections the entire time along with a very good Vitamin Supp. Cutting that into quarters will be a pain in the ass unless its large.

Man, trying to split a 50mg tab into quarters is a nightmare. They usually just crumble into dust, so definitely stick to cutting them in half for that 25mg dose—it's way more realistic.

Since you're prepping for a show at 200 lbs, starting at 25mg to see how your body tolerates it is a smart play. You can always bump it up to 50mg (split 25mg morning / 25mg night) after a few weeks once you know your lipid profile and liver aren't taking too much of a beating. The NAD+ injections and a solid vitamin protocol are great for overall cellular energy and health, but remember they won't completely shield your cholesterol from an oral. Keep that cycle length capped so you hit the stage looking dialed without absolutely wrecking your bloodwork.

 

[Demonxx]

If you daily dose it and assuming you are not carrying a ton of fat or drinking alcohol regularly, 200 test 100 npp should not give you high e2 sides.

That was my introduction into AAS. I started with trt at 150mgs test cyp. Then 200. Then 200 test cyp + 100 nandrolone decanoate. Clinics only carry decanoate in the US (or so I was told at the time) and that’s where I got it.

currently i am doing doing test c 200mgs once a week i can split it up into twice a week