HGH...Worth pushing past 8iu/day?

[JG1]

Running Test-E and Mast-E at 750/750. I started on HGH the beginning of July at 2.5iu/day and have titrated up to 8iu/day. I've been on 8iu for about a month now. Took a while to work through the initial edema, but that has settled down now. I've tried taking the 8iu in one bolus dose pre-bed, but my sleep was awful. I've switched to 4iu pre-bed and 4iu twelve hours later.

I'm noticing that my body composition is changing pretty quickly at this point. I'm leaner and stronger than I've been in a very long time.

Is it worth it to push higher with the HGH? 9iu or 10iu? I don't know where the point of diminishing returns is.

 

[Nood]

If you’re seeing great results where you’re at, I’d just stay there for now. Hows your glucose levels, taking anything to help control it?
Like Jay Cutler said “run as much as you can afford” or as much as you can get away with, without to many sides.

 

[JG1]

If you’re seeing great results where you’re at, I’d just stay there for now. Hows your glucose levels, taking anything to help control it?
Like Jay Cutler said “run as much as you can afford” or as much as you can get away with, without to many sides.

I haven't taken my BS. I am running Tirz at 5mg/week for insulin sensitivity.

 

[Nood]

I haven't taken my BS. I am running Tirz at 5mg/week for insulin sensitivity.

How do you know you need it then? Glp’s only help out so much. Personally if I go above 6iu a glp wasn’t enough. I’d Recommend getting a glucose tester before making any other adjustments.
Have you had a thyroid panel done?

 

[Meetketchup]

For the average gym bro. I don’t see a reason to go past eight. For most people anything after that it’s diminishing returns and honestly a waste of money. Of course if you’re competitor and a bigger guy, that’s a different story but 6 to 8 is plenty for most people.

 

[JG1]

How do you know you need it then? Glp’s only help out so much. Personally if I go above 6iu a glp wasn’t enough. I’d Recommend getting a glucose tester before making any other adjustments.
Have you had a thyroid panel done?

I've been on a GLP-1 for a year now. I was dieting last year and dropped about 30lbs. Mainly Reta at 7mg/week. When I built a tolerance to that, I slowly added in Tirz and titrate up to 7mg/week of that as well. 14mg/week total. I was going to completely come off of both but decided to stay on Tirz, at a lower dose, for it's metabolic benefits. Lower inflammation, insulin sensitivity, lipids, etc.

 

[JG1]

For the average gym bro. I don’t see a reason to go past eight. For most people anything after that it’s diminishing returns and honestly a waste of money. Of course if you’re competitor and a bigger guy, that’s a different story but 6 to 8 is plenty for most people.

 

[Ms1986]

I've been on a GLP-1 for a year now. I was dieting last year and dropped about 30lbs. Mainly Reta at 7mg/week. When I built a tolerance to that, I slowly added in Tirz and titrate up to 7mg/week of that as well. 14mg/week total. I was going to completely come off of both but decided to stay on Tirz, at a lower dose, for its metabolic benefits. Lower inflammation, insulin sensitivity, lipids, etc.

Why’d you decide to stay on tirz over reta? Curious as I haven’t ran tirz but been on 5mg reta for the last 4 months, can tell body’s getting used to it so either go up or switch it up .. on cruise trt until early next year then it’s blast off!

 

[Mark.moose]

Why’d you decide to stay on tirz over reta? Curious as I haven’t ran tirz but been on 5mg reta for the last 4 months, can tell body’s getting used to it so either go up or switch it up .. on cruise trt until early next year then it’s blast off!

Have you tried to split dose it yet? Add Cagrilintide as well. Keep the dose low but effective. Try adding 1.5mg cag to it and see if that helps.

 

[JG1]

Have you tried to split dose it yet? Add Cagrilintide as well. Keep the dose low but effective. Try adding 1.5mg cag to it and see if that helps.

Careful with Cagrilintide. Made me feel exhausted all the time. I never felt fatigue like that. To the point it was hard just to stand up out of a chair. Was absolutely horrible.

 

[Ms1986]

I’ll try split dosing but was jc if switching to tirz would be more effective for me at this point. Not sure how safe 8-12mg/w Reta is long term so trying to avoid going much higher..

 

[Mark.moose]

Careful with Cagrilintide. Made me feel exhausted all the time. I never felt fatigue like that. To the point it was hard just to stand up out of a chair. Was absolutely horrible.

With Cag, you use a much lower dose that the reta. Almost a 6:1 ratio

 

[elit3keraed]

Running Test-E and Mast-E at 750/750. I started on HGH the beginning of July at 2.5iu/day and have titrated up to 8iu/day. I've been on 8iu for about a month now. Took a while to work through the initial edema, but that has settled down now. I've tried taking the 8iu in one bolus dose pre-bed, but my sleep was awful. I've switched to 4iu pre-bed and 4iu twelve hours later.

I'm noticing that my body composition is changing pretty quickly at this point. I'm leaner and stronger than I've been in a very long time.

Is it worth it to push higher with the HGH? 9iu or 10iu? I don't know where the point of diminishing returns is.

If you’re getting good results then just stay at what you’re at.

 

[REHH]

when I went 6-8iu, the most I’ve ever run, I needed to add insulin to control blood sugar. Made a big difference on the gains too, that’s how I got to 250lbs. Felt miserable at that weight tho, 230-240 was my sweet spot.
Also needed to add some T4/T3 for thyroid

 

[Wardamn]

Run 8 IUs for a few month and then bump it to 12IUs. See how you respond. No one can tell you how you will do with it.

 

[JG1]

With Cag, you use a much lower dose that the reta. Almost a 6:1 ratio

I was using about 1.5mg/week of Cagri. At the time, I was on 7mg/week of Reta.

 

[JG1]

when I went 6-8iu, the most I’ve ever run, I needed to add insulin to control blood sugar. Made a big difference on the gains too, that’s how I got to 250lbs. Felt miserable at that weight tho, 230-240 was my sweet spot.
Also needed to add some T4/T3 for thyroid

When you went to 6-8iu, were you split dosing it or injecting one bolus dose pre-bed?

Were you using a basal insulin for all day coverage or a rapid (Humalog) pre/post workout?

How much t4 were you taking?