Why do I find it hard to hit calories?

[unsainted94]

I don’t know if it’s because I did intermittent fasting for a long little while or what but for some reason I’m good with like 3 protein shakes and nice size (healthy) meal or two. Anyone else have this issue? I always hear people say to eat a certain amount and spread out to 5 meal a day. Idk man. Just trying to get some insight on other folks diet I guess. I’m not on anything advanced right now. along side my weekly TRT from the doc I just added 50mg of test p every 3 days and a low dose of Deca to help those joints and just added 1mg of Tesamorelin at night.

 

[Wardamn]

I don’t know if it’s because I did intermittent fasting for a long little while or what but for some reason I’m good with like 3 protein shakes and nice size (healthy) meal or two. Anyone else have this issue? I always hear people say to eat a certain amount and spread out to 5 meal a day. Idk man. Just trying to get some insight on other folks diet I guess. I’m not on anything advanced right now. along side my weekly TRT from the doc I just added 50mg of test p every 3 days and a low dose of Deca to help those joints and just added 1mg of Tesamorelin at night.

How lean are you?

 

[unsainted94]

How lean are you?

Honestly not very. I use to be 300+ at 48% body fat. Now I’m hovering 244 but still right at 30% fat last time I checked.
also I don’t know if it matters but haven’t been on TRT for too long either. I was having some life situations last year and discontinued but my script kept piling up lol so I started back a month ago

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

I think you're looking at food the wrong way. You have to view food as fuel and purpose, not personal satisfaction. You're not eating because you're good with it, you're eating because its what your body needs. Sometimes it easy, sometimes its a chore. Eat for purpose. Eat for results. It doesnt matter if you're good or not, it matters if your body is good or not. You have to reprogram your thinking. Start tracking, eating and logging. Youll see results.

 

[samgraves82]

First off congrats on the weight loss!!!!
But regarding ur question and getting more calories, the truth is, drop the shakes first, and from there you just gotta suck it up and eat. It's uncomfortable and it sux but it has to be done. Also, move more. Add cardio for example

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[Omoplata]

I think you're looking at food the wrong way. You have to view food as fuel and purpose, not personal satisfaction. You're not eating because you're good with it, you're eating because its what your body needs. Sometimes it easy, sometimes its a chore. Eat for purpose. Eat for results. It doesnt matter if you're good or not, it matters if your body is good or not. You have to reprogram your thinking. Start tracking, eating and logging. Youll see results.

This is exactly how I think..what a small world lol

 

[Astro95]

You probably have this used to be morbidly obese trauma somewhere in the hard drive, where “eating” signals getting fat again or fatter. I mean you used to be able to eat, how’d you get to 300+… My questions would be, how’s your overall diet? Is it a crash diet? Trying to understand why at 30% bf or higher you’re trying to eat more? And why adding Test Prop and Deca at with that much body fat on you still? Deca for the joints is the silliest excuse in this realm for people to just add more gear. I mean unless you’re up there in age or a seasoned lifter whose joints are beat to hell, I guess, but you don’t seem to be either, so truthfully why Deca? Why do your joints even hurt?

 

[unsainted94]

You probably have this used to be morbidly obese trauma somewhere in the hard drive, where “eating” signals getting fat again or fatter. I mean you used to be able to eat, how’d you get to 300+… My questions would be, how’s your overall diet? Is it a crash diet? Trying to understand why at 30% bf or higher you’re trying to eat more? And why adding Test Prop and Deca at with that much body fat on you still? Deca for the joints is the silliest excuse in this realm for people to just add more gear. I mean unless you’re up there in age or a seasoned lifter whose joints are beat to hell, I guess, but you don’t seem to be either, so truthfully why Deca? Why do your joints even hurt?

I know it sounds crazy with adding the Deca but it’s a legitimate reason in my book. 4 months ago I started a new career in an aluminum smelting factory. GOOD money but I have the roughest job you can imagine. We change the carbon anodes out of a 1000 degrees molten lava live smelting pot. Daily catching ourselves on fire. 12-14 hour days I work myself to almost failure some days and in the summertime people just pass everywhere. It’s crazy. Can’t hardly grip a gallon of milk somedays plus I could’ve gotten nandrolone from my doc if I wanted it. Literally doses between 50-150mg/wk can be used almost indefinitely next to test. And the test p is just every 3 days to boost everything…. Also maybe this is part of the reason why it’s so hard to eat. The heat. Didn’t think about that lol

 

[unsainted94]

You probably have this used to be morbidly obese trauma somewhere in the hard drive, where “eating” signals getting fat again or fatter. I mean you used to be able to eat, how’d you get to 300+… My questions would be, how’s your overall diet? Is it a crash diet? Trying to understand why at 30% bf or higher you’re trying to eat more? And why adding Test Prop and Deca at with that much body fat on you still? Deca for the joints is the silliest excuse in this realm for people to just add more gear. I mean unless you’re up there in age or a seasoned lifter whose joints are beat to hell, I guess, but you don’t seem to be either, so truthfully why Deca? Why do your joints even hurt?

To answer your question truthfully my diet isn’t bad at all. I rarely eat sugar and try to eat the bulk of my calories earlier in the day so it burns off as I work and mostly meat/protein, then veggies or greens. Seeing my work situation I have to drink Gatorade so I get it there’s a lot of sugar but some days the dehydration is too real

 

[unsainted94]

Trust me if I want to run an actual cycle I have everything I need for that but the doses I’m on ain’t nothing to brag about. Therapeutic doses

 

[Rot-Iron66]

Im not a big believer on "hitting calories" unless its in the opposite direction (to lose weight).
(eat til full, dont over-stuff your face).
The BB's from the past looked much better IMO and ate normally. Didn't stuff themselves like a pig.
No big bloated bellies in those days, etc.

Nubret at once a day, Mentzer - 3 small meals, Arnold and company, normal 3-4 meals a day, less than 3000 calories.
Tons of BB's ruined their look with over-eating and distended gut... Not necessary...

Organs constantly processing, no rest, etc... Gluttons.. Not good...

 

[Oran Juice Jones]

To answer your question truthfully my diet isn’t bad at all. I rarely eat sugar and try to eat the bulk of my calories earlier in the day so it burns off as I work and mostly meat/protein, then veggies or greens. Seeing my work situation I have to drink Gatorade so I get it there’s a lot of sugar but some days the dehydration is too real

To be honest with you, you don’t have to limit sugar. You can eat it and for myself I get it in natural things like fruits.

I think someone said it already, treat eating like training. It has to be done. Get a coach if need be, dial in 4-5 meals you like and eat the same things everyday. Where most people mess up is they want variety and they want to make eating this emotional thing when in reality it’s just a refuel and sometimes the fuel happens to taste ok. PED’s aren’t the issue at all in your case it’s the higher body fat. Get that off, if you’re on TRT then take that dose and you don’t need a cocktail of shit to drop the bodyfat. Once start to drop the body fat your appetite will automatically increase because you will be hungry from the deficit, ask me how I know lol.

Also you will feel a lot more capable at work doing that strenuous activity. Good luck


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[Montego]

Removing the shakes and replacing them with real food would probably help your appetite if you're just not hungry.

Relying on supplements for your protein intake isn't a great way to diet IMO. Using them to SUPPLEMENT is fine, but one should never rely on them.

But, yes, intermittent fasting, just like eating more often, will effect how the body signals hunger after extended periods of time. I eat 7 times a day (one is a shake) and typically have extra calories, from fruit, between a few of those meals. This is from years of eating multiple times a day though and "training my body" to be hungry.

Solid food more frequently over time and you'll see the hunger increase.

 

[Meetketchup]

@Montego Words of wisdom. 100%

 

[unsainted94]

It my fault, my body fat should be lower than 30% but I didn’t work out much plus was injured the 1st year and half or so I started to lose weight. It was just diet changes. Sucks I didn’t take advantage of it but without getting into my life story I was in a bad spot in life. The number on the scale doesn’t concern me much these days, I just want to hit 20% and below

 

[Meetketchup]

It my fault, my body fat should be lower than 30% but I didn’t work out much plus was injured the 1st year and half or so I started to lose weight. It was just diet changes. Sucks I didn’t take advantage of it but without getting into my life story I was in a bad spot in life. The number on the scale doesn’t concern me much these days, I just want to hit 20% and below

You seem focused on BF % The mirror and taking weekly pics are your best friends when wanting to drop weight. It will tell you everything you need to know along with tracking body weight.

Dial in your macros and hit them along with hard training, cardio and recovery. Do that and you'll get to where you want. You shouldn't be anywhere Deca or supraphysiological test at this phase in your journey.

 

[unsainted94]

You seem focused on BF % The mirror and taking weekly pics are your best friends when wanting to drop weight. It will tell you everything you need to know along with tracking body weight.

Dial in your macros and hit them along with hard training, cardio and recovery. Do that and you'll get to where you want. You shouldn't be anywhere Deca or supraphysiological test at this phase in your journey.

I agree and again like I said already. Definitely nothing supraphysiological going on. Would seriously make me sense. My test is only at ~ 250/week and the Deca is only at therapeutic doses ~100/week which will probably knock it down to 200 & 50/week waiting for blood work and stuff. Debating on adding GLP but nervous because of the heated work I do. I don’t wanna do too much and not knowing how my body is gonna react on stuff and then pass out fall in a f*cking lava pit of a melted aluminum lmao. My buddy at work is on Tren & DHB & 750 test and keeps trying to get me to go up and I’m like you’re crazy dude lol. I don’t listen to people like that lol….
The big thing here is focusing on my diet and getting that BF percent down.

 

[Meetketchup]

I agree and again like I said already. Definitely nothing supraphysiological going on. Would seriously make me sense. My test is only at ~ 250/week and the Deca

I'd be shocked if you're levels aren't supraphysiologic at those mgs. You'll see when getting bloods done. 100mg Deca you said you had reasons, wondering what those are because your risk at that level outweighs the reward. The whole joint lubrication stuff is so overrated, and I hope that's not why you're on it.

 

[unsainted94]

I'd be shocked if you're levels aren't supraphysiologic at those mgs. You'll see when getting bloods done. 100mg Deca you said you had reasons, wondering what those are because your risk at that level outweighs the reward. The whole joint lubrication stuff is so overrated, and I hope that's not why you're on it.

I already did read one of my other comments. I don’t take stuff just to take it lol.

 

[Meetketchup]

I already did read one of my other comments. I don’t take stuff just to take it lol.

I read that. I was hoping for another reason than a hard-working environment which I don't know why specifically Deca would help that. AND running Deca indefinitely is a risk on the heart you don't want t take.

Do as you will. You seem to be steadfast so I will drop off here and wish you the best. Good luck on your weight loss journey!

 

[Maxwell]

@unsainted94 listening to yourself obviously isnt working I would try to take someone else's advice. If I had to choose someone who was trying to help you I would choose @Meetketchup he knows alot and is very successful at what he does.

did you come here for validation or help? thats the question you got to ask yourself.

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

You probably have this used to be morbidly obese trauma somewhere in the hard drive, where “eating” signals getting fat again or fatter

The is a Fact and its Real! I've mentioned before about my struggles with an eating disorder. In my "prime" I topped out around 350lbs. I eat more volume now than I did when I was 350lbs, but much cleaner. Its still a jedi mind fuck almost every single time I eat. "Oh man, this is too much, I'm going to get fat again." The struggle is real. I realized that because of this, I had a tendency to heavily under eat and starve myself. Even when i ate small amounts, it felt like too much. Weighing my food, tracking, and logging helps keeps the fat trauma in check and gives me a visual reference.

Great Point because fat trauma does affect your ability and desire to eat.

 

[J.S.]

The is a Fact and its Real! I've mentioned before about my struggles with an eating disorder. In my "prime" I topped out around 350lbs. I eat more volume now than I did when I was 350lbs, but much cleaner. Its still a jedi mind fuck almost every single time I eat. "Oh man, this is too much, I'm going to get fat again." The struggle is real. I realized that because of this, I had a tendency to heavily under eat and starve myself. Even when i ate small amounts, it felt like too much. Weighing my food, tracking, and logging helps keeps the fat trauma in check and gives me a visual reference.

Great Point because fat trauma does affect your ability and desire to eat.

Man you are so right ! I was in a cut down mode for so long that when I hit my low (152) I decided to try to put on some healthy weight, every time I eat more then what I’m use to, I get this weird warning going off in my head, lol.

 

[unsainted94]

I read that. I was hoping for another reason than a hard-working environment which I don't know why specifically Deca would help that. AND running Deca indefinitely is a risk on the heart you don't want t take.

Do as you will. You seem to be steadfast so I will drop off here and wish you the best. Good luck on your weight loss journey!

Just hard work lmao if it was that simple.
And I wouldn’t take it or probably anything indefinitely. I’m just saying there’s people that do. Even at 300+ pounds I didn’t have major health issues and don’t want them.
And I do hear your warnings and I do really appreciate what you’re saying honestly. That’s why I’m doing bloodwork every month and watching side effects if I start putting on water weight or just having effects I don’t want and I just discontinued. But the facts are whenever you wake up in the morning and your fingertips are numb and you can’t hardly move but you need a paycheck and you genuinely love your job regardless of how brutal it is you do what you do. The post is asking about other people‘s diet recommendation so I can try to pick other peoples brains. Not whether or not I’m taking a medicinal level of stuff and seeing a doctor and teladoc too. I drink a case of water and then some at work everyday

 

[unsainted94]

@unsainted94 listening to yourself obviously isnt working I would try to take someone else's advice. If I had to choose someone who was trying to help you I would choose @Meetketchup he knows alot and is very successful at what he does.

did you come here for validation or help? thats the question you got to ask yourself.

Listening to myself helped me cut 60+ lbs before I plateau lol. I was asking about diet recommendations. For the record it seems like I might be validating or arguing, and I could see from your point of view where it looks like that, but I really do take everything everybody says. One day I looked in the mirror and I just didn’t like the person who I was and I decided to change

 

[WED]

Honestly not very. I use to be 300+ at 48% body fat. Now I’m hovering 244 but still right at 30% fat last time I checked.
also I don’t know if it matters but haven’t been on TRT for too long either. I was having some life situations last year and discontinued but my script kept piling up lol so I started back a month ago

If you're 250 you should probably be able to eat like 2800 calories and be in a 1k deficit and lose a good bit of weight as long as you're lifting and cardio/steps

I'd stop drinking your calories. It's the least possible filling way to go eat high volume foots like greens and veggies that have fiber and then complex carbs like Potatoes

 

[unsainted94]

If you're 250 you should probably be able to eat like 2800 calories and be in a 1k deficit and lose a good bit of weight as long as you're lifting and cardio/steps

I'd stop drinking your calories. It's the least possible filling way to go eat high volume foots like greens and veggies that have fiber and then complex carbs like Potatoes

Yeah, I see that’s a common thing. Everyone keeps saying is lose the shakes. I think I’m just going to pre-grill a bunch of chicken breasts and bag them up and throw them in the freezer. Take a couple to work every day instead of shakes so I can keep that protein.

 

[Glycomann]

Yeah, I see that’s a common thing. Everyone keeps saying is lose the shakes. I think I’m just going to pre-grill a bunch of chicken breasts and bag them up and throw them in the freezer. Take a couple to work every day instead of shakes so I can keep that protein.

You have some major disadvantages that no one here has. You work in a furnace 10-12 hours a day with almost no breaks. Shakes are probably a must to meet your protein target. Other than that a simple way to do this is to use Cronometer.com. It is a good free online app to track your nutrition. I've used it for years and have use an app and weighted my food every day for over a decade or more. That is key for me especially after age 45 or so.

 

[Glycomann]

You have some major disadvantages that no one here has. You work in a furnace 10-12 hours a day with almost no breaks. Shakes are probably a must to meet your protein target. Other than that a simple way to do this is to use Cronometer.com. It is a good free online app to track your nutrition. I've used it for years and have use an app and weighted my food every day for over a decade or more. That is key for me especially after age 45 or so.

I will add I worked a hard labor job for many years on top of training in the gym, running road work and in the dojo almost daily. That is a lot of work and hard to recover from. Once the labor job was gone I recovered a lot better along with physique improvements.

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

You have some major disadvantages that no one here has. You work in a furnace 10-12 hours a day with almost no breaks. Shakes are probably a must to meet your protein target. Other than that a simple way to do this is to use Cronometer.com. It is a good free online app to track your nutrition. I've used it for years and have use an app and weighted my food every day for over a decade or more. That is key for me especially after age 45 or so.

Just to add to this point, everyone has mentioned protein requirements, but I dont think Carbohydrates have been talked about. He would require a "more than normal" amount of carbohydrates. Without knowing all the details, I would think in the ballpark of 350+g a day.