Why do I find it hard to hit calories?

[Meetketchup]

Just to add to this point, everyone has mentioned protein requirements, but I dont think Carbohydrates have been talked about. He would require a "more than normal" amount of carbohydrates. Without knowing all the details, I would think in the ballpark of 350+g a day.

We should know a rough BMR before guessing at carb numbers. I would imagine since he's been cutting, he would have an idea where that is. Then it's easy breaking down where his P,C, F should be for a deficit.

Size is not a great indicator of someone's metabolism unfortunately.

 

[WED]

Yeah, I see that’s a common thing. Everyone keeps saying is lose the shakes. I think I’m just going to pre-grill a bunch of chicken breasts and bag them up and throw them in the freezer. Take a couple to work every day instead of shakes so I can keep that protein.

Low calorie sauces make chicken better. G Hughes, zero cal buffalo or hot sauce. Mix with potatoes or rice, salad mix, and some cottage cheese for more protein. Use the sauce/cottage cheese to make a dressing

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

We should know a rough BMR before guessing at carb numbers. I would imagine since he's been cutting, he would have an idea where that is. Then it's easy breaking down where his P,C, F should be for a deficit.

Size is not a great indicator of someone's metabolism unfortunately.

100% Agree. Thats why I left myself an out by saying "without knowing the details." Regardless of BMR, I was trying to illustrate an example that his TDEE would be higher than the average Joe by working in a hellfire furnace for 12 hours a day.

You are correct. My comment would have been less misleading and more accurately stated without including a numerical value.

 

[Meetketchup]

100% Agree. Thats why I left myself an out by saying "without knowing the details." Regardless of BMR, I was trying to illustrate an example that his TDEE would be higher than the average Joe by working in a hellfire furnace for 12 hours a day.

You are correct. My comment would have been less misleading and more accurately stated without including a numerical value.

You always have good posts man. Wasn't trying to bust your balls in the least.

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

You always have good posts man. Wasn't trying to bust your balls in the least.

No worries. I always appreciate any correction. I'm semi-confident in my manhood so I never interpret it as negative. Good conversation keeps the brain juices flowing and the mind open. I always tell people on the job, if we dont ever reach a point of disagreement during a discussion, then we will never reach the best possible solution. Disagreement is the building block of innovation.

 

[unsainted94]

I’m actually working right now and we are making decent pace so hoping to finish early. I like what y’all are saying though. I do think I should think on it a bit because with sweating out everything I’m inputting right now I think I was confusing “calories” per se with more of proteins. If I go buy the 1g per pound rule of thumb I start feeling nausea after I’ve scarfed down too much meat lol. Idk this shit was easy when I was fasting lol. 20 hours no food and 4 hours eat WHATEVER tf you want I can’t do that anymore or I’ll be passing out and falling in the smelter lol. Then days I’m not working trying to at least get in a good cardio and core work out bare minimum….

 

[unsainted94]

I thought carbs are bad though? lol that’s all I ever hear people say. Low carb, high protein, medium fat and lots of electrolytes and amino acid. Man talking about 350+ g of carbs I think I’d be fat again lmao… naw I see what you mean. It’s energy right?

 

[unsainted94]

I will add I worked a hard labor job for many years on top of training in the gym, running road work and in the dojo almost daily. That is a lot of work and hard to recover from. Once the labor job was gone I recovered a lot better along with physique improvements.

Bro. Thank you. Some people get it. It’s not just “physical” work this is a lifestyle. This is worse than the glass factory I used to work at in Florida in the summertime. Not trying to put anyone down, but I’m just a fatty myself and the facts are in these types of environment. Gym rats are the first to fall out for some reason. Like literally PASS OUT. They can lift weight but have no actual real world application. Can I say this with all due respect. Our dad‘s and granddad‘s built this country and factory work millwork, steel mill, concrete mill, roadwork, roofing, heavy intensive labor cases, miners. that’s usually 12+ hours with a few breaks that you could squeeze here and there just scarf something down and keep going. And if you look at them, they were just average Jo’s but they were strong as a mule and could work sun up to sundown

 

[Glycomann]

Just to add to this point, everyone has mentioned protein requirements, but I dont think Carbohydrates have been talked about. He would require a "more than normal" amount of carbohydrates. Without knowing all the details, I would think in the ballpark of 350+g a day.

I remember when I was working hard labor I had to down 4000+ cals a day or i would drop weight.

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

I remember when I was working hard labor I had to down 4000+ cals a day or i would drop weight.

Ouch. Eating becomes a second full time job at that point.

 

[Hughmangoes]

Lots of good info in this thread. One thing I didn't see addressed is WHAT are the calories you are failing to hit? Between 3 protein shakes and two good meals you very well could be doing fine. Sure protein shakes aren't as satiating, but you don't seem to have a problem with that.

I'm a lifelong obese guy trying to lose weight right now. I eat 260g protein, 170/140 carbs and 45g of fat. I eat almost two pounds of chicken breasts every day. Some days specially when I make a shitty recipe I wish I could just drink shakes all day instead of eating the breasts, but I get hungry even though I'm on GLP.

Joing this forum and starting glp helped me rewire my brain. I try not to view food as good or bad, tasty or untasty, healthy or unhealthy, it's just fuel.I either hit my macro and micro targets or I don't.

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

I try not to view food as good or bad, tasty or untasty, healthy or unhealthy, it's just fuel.I either hit my macro and micro targets or I don't.

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

Lots of good info in this thread. One thing I didn't see addressed is WHAT are the calories you are failing to hit? Between 3 protein shakes and two good meals you very well could be doing fine. Sure protein shakes aren't as satiating, but you don't seem to have a problem with that.

I'm a lifelong obese guy trying to lose weight right now. I eat 260g protein, 170/140 carbs and 45g of fat. I eat almost two pounds of chicken breasts every day. Some days specially when I make a shitty recipe I wish I could just drink shakes all day instead of eating the breasts, but I get hungry even though I'm on GLP.

Joing this forum and starting glp helped me rewire my brain. I try not to view food as good or bad, tasty or untasty, healthy or unhealthy, it's just fuel.I either hit my macro and micro targets or I don't.

Over the years, I've had to learn to do the exact same thing. I was obese from childhood and most of my life. When I used phrases like:

I really want a burger
Man, I'd love some pork chops
I'd really love some pizza

That's how I ended up obese. Now I just say things like:

I need 42g of Protein but I cant have more than 6g of Fat. What do I need to eat to fulfill that requirement?

Good for you, brother. You're on the right track. Keep it up!

 

[unsainted94]

Lots of good info in this thread. One thing I didn't see addressed is WHAT are the calories you are failing to hit? Between 3 protein shakes and two good meals you very well could be doing fine. Sure protein shakes aren't as satiating, but you don't seem to have a problem with that.

I'm a lifelong obese guy trying to lose weight right now. I eat 260g protein, 170/140 carbs and 45g of fat. I eat almost two pounds of chicken breasts every day. Some days specially when I make a shitty recipe I wish I could just drink shakes all day instead of eating the breasts, but I get hungry even though I'm on GLP.

Joing this forum and starting glp helped me rewire my brain. I try not to view food as good or bad, tasty or untasty, healthy or unhealthy, it's just fuel.I either hit my macro and micro targets or I don't.

Yeah I think I worded it wrong. I was confusing calories for protein. My bad. The calories are in a deficit but trying to do that with a ton of protein seems hard at my weight if I use the 1g per pound rule. It’s like once I eat over 200ish I’m full.. I think with my case is it’s learning how to eat on a proper schedule spaced out Instead of fasting or vise versa when I was bigger just out right gorging myself

 

[Wardamn]

Honestly not very. I use to be 300+ at 48% body fat. Now I’m hovering 244 but still right at 30% fat last time I checked.
also I don’t know if it matters but haven’t been on TRT for too long either. I was having some life situations last year and discontinued but my script kept piling up lol so I started back a month ago

Poor insulin sensitivity can impact your appetite.

Keep getting leaner and your appetite will improve.

 

[Wardamn]

Yeah I think I worded it wrong. I was confusing calories for protein. My bad. The calories are in a deficit but trying to do that with a ton of protein seems hard at my weight if I use the 1g per pound rule. It’s like once I eat over 200ish I’m full.. I think with my case is it’s learning how to eat on a proper schedule spaced out Instead of fasting or vise versa when I was bigger just out right gorging myself

200 grams of protein will do you just fine at your weight and BF%.

 

[Hughmangoes]

I started eating 260+ protein over 15 weeks ago. In the beginning it was very hard. Some days I would gag eating these stupid chicken breasts. Some days I would straight up drink pints of egg whites because I couldn't stand eating solid proteins.

Nowadays I'm 40lbs lighter and savour every last bite of chicken breast, no matter how bad I cooked it. Some days even boiled breast with salt and pepper tastes amazing.

I used to drink 1-2 protein shakes and then have about 2 shakes worth of ninja creami ice cream at night. Just so I could eat less solid protein per day.

Nowadays I don't drink any shakes during the day, and make my ice cream with 1/2- 1 scoop of protein, just so I can eat more solid protein during the day.

Try to replace 1 out of 3 shakes with solid food - 100g cooked chicken, 50g rice 50g frozen veggies from the freezer section. Small meal, easy, no big deal. Pay attention to how you feel, I bet you're gonna start feeling better very soon.

 

[Astro95]

You could be overly fatigued from work and your diet. High levels of fatigue will hinder appetite. I still don’t see why take anything beyond TRT at your body fat. We haven’t even talked about if you train or anything. I work the same 12hour shifts in oil and gas, 15hour total with commute. Low sleep, 1.5-2hrs of training, 5-6 days a week. I spend time cooking and prepping 5-6 meals for each day = less sleep. Do I take gear? Yes, but it has nothing to do with my career. There’s people that have harder jobs in the same industry, BIG boys etc who are natural and they don’t need any hormones to do their jobs. Whether the Deca is from the doctor or not that’s irrelevant it’s still more gear. Anyways, I’d prioritize sleep and hydration. When my fingers or toes lock out on their own it’s due to sever dehydration. I don’t up the gear, I hydrate lol

 

[unsainted94]

Screw it adding Tirz or Reta and calling it a day lol jk but maybe lol…. Y’all do know the fda just had a meeting on how they’ve been wrong on a lot of testosterone stuff over the past like 40 years? Looking at it like I’m taking some extreme amount of PEDs smh. I wouldn’t doubt it if a lot of laws and and medical standards change next few years. Somethings are basic protein, good no protein, no good. Testosterone good no testosterone no good. I know you guys walked around with 100 e2 and feel amazing and healthy. My cousin personally walked around with 2200 test for years and years and his doctor said he was perfectly healthy until he started f*cking around acting careless cause himself to have a heart attack. If they think natural testosterone levels were higher in the 70s and they are today how high do you think that they were in the time of Jesus? There are some food for thought right? I feel better with what I’m on than the what I was. And stronger. Everything everybody thinks they know today is going to be wrong in five years. five years ago there was no magic fix all fat pill and and today there is one (GLPs) I have people that personally know me that think I just need to add more. Sooooo…. again should I just blast an awesome f*cking cutting cycle and see what happens or can we just agree 200- 250mg isn’t that bad lmao jokes guys…. @Astro95 hydration and sleep definitely make a difference I noticed on my days where my sleep is BS It definitely affects me tremendously alongside stress. This past year, I’ve started a little eye twitch when I get too stressed and force me to fall back and realize what’s going on with my life… I appreciate your input

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

Honestly buddy, if you're having problems eating calories now, you DO NOT want a GLP1. You'll never be able to eat. It will shut down your appetite. Sure, you'll lose "weight" but alot of it is gonna be muscle mass too.

200-250mg is not that bad for where you are. You could add 2 more grams of gear, but until you get your BF in check, your eating dialed in, your training in check, your sleep in check, and stress level managed, you are basically paying money for alot of new problems you're going to create by adding extra gear and compounds.