Am I going crazy for wanting to add Anavar to my TRT cut?

[FearsomeCOR]

I thought it would help give me a boost in strength, that's it. Not looking for anything else.

It will. What people are asking is why are you looking to do that.

Are you losing strength? Just for fun?

 

[Fatmonk8]

I’d say save it towards the end of
Your cycle when you’re already lean and will notice it more

Most people load up mgs and orals at the start of their cycle, and reduce the mgs they’re running or drop the orals later in the cycle

It should be the opposite where you taper up the doses later into the cycle or blast.

Also agree with others about just upping the test to 300 since you seem to have an incurable itch to add or change something

Lol, I don't know if it's an itch so much as want to add something to help with strength.

 

[Fatmonk8]

It will. What people are asking is why are you looking to do that.

Are you losing strength? Just for fun?

Yes, I have been weaker and was looking to boost strength.

I don't know if it's just the deficit, the reta, the lack of carbs. I'm sure it's all of that.

I just wanted something to add on top of my current routine to give me a boost.

 

[Sector.]

Lol, I don't know if it's an itch so much as want to add something to help with strength.

I mean you’ve have a dozen experienced people say it’s a waste and you keep trying to rationalize it,

So im suggesting a different approach. 300 test. Then save the var for the 12% —>10% push. Should still be able gain strength on 300 test

 

[FearsomeCOR]

Yes, I have been weaker and was looking to boost strength.

I don't know if it's just the deficit, the reta, the lack of carbs. I'm sure it's all of that.

I just wanted something to add on top of my current routine to give me a boost.

I’d check nutrition, diet, and training. You’re 16%, you really shouldn’t be losing strength.

 

[Fatmonk8]

I mean you’ve have a dozen experienced people say it’s a waste and you keep trying to rationalize it,

So im suggesting a different approach. 300 test. Then save the var for the 12% —>10% push. Should still be able gain strength on 300 test

Your right, it's not my intention to argue with anyone. I came to ask a question and I do keep trying to rationalize it.

 

[Fatmonk8]

I’d check nutrition, diet, and training. You’re 16%, you really shouldn’t be losing strength.

Even if my bf is dropping fast? Or does that not matter?

Doesn't reta also help clear out stored glycogen in the liver? So I wouldn't have stored energy if I'm not getting enough in?

Wouldn't that also contribute to lower energy/strength in the gym?

 

[FearsomeCOR]

Even if my bf is dropping fast? Or does that not matter?

Doesn't reta also help clear out stored in the liver? So I wouldn't have stored energy if I'm not getting enough in?

Wouldn't that also contribute to lower energy/strength in the gym?

Then reassess your deficit. If you’re crash dieting then ya you’ll be weaker.

 

[Sector.]

Your right, it's not my intention to argue with anyone. I came to ask a question and I do keep trying to rationalize it.

I understand why you want to. Trust me I really do. I get the same urges all
The time. Just saying that 16–>12% bf should be a cake walk, even 10% should be decently easy.
8% is when it starts to get gritty.

My point is moreso to just keep some tools in the bag for when it gets harder. Youll lose
Much more strength and potential
Muscle the leaner you get. 12% would be a better time to introduce it when you’re pulling down to 10% or maybe even 8%

and like fearsome said, maybe reevaluate the crash diet approach, that will definitrly lead to strength loss and cause you to hard pleateu faster when your metabolism catches up
To your new calorie intake, then you don’t have much room to reduce your calories So
You have to add Insane amounts of cardio

 

[Fatmonk8]

I understand why you want to. Trust me I really do. I get the same urges all
The time. Just saying that 16–>12% bf should be a cake walk, even 10% should be decently easy.
8% is when it starts to get gritty.

My point is moreso to just keep some tools in the bag for when it gets harder. Youll lose
Much more strength and potential
Muscle the leaner you get. 12% would be a better time to introduce it when you’re pulling down to 10% or maybe even 8%

and like fearsome said, maybe reevaluate the crash diet approach, that will definitrly lead to strength loss and cause you to hard pleateu faster when your metabolism catches up
To your new calorie intake, then you don’t have much room to reduce your calories So
You have to add Insane amounts of cardio

Then that is what I'll do.

Look into my diet, maybe add some more carbs pre-workout. Maybe increase test.

Keep the var for when I really need it.

 

[Syntha Claus]

Post a shirtless pic and DEXA Claus will tell you your body fat.
That’ll end that part.

Anyone notice Ketchup checked out? That outta tell us something.

 

[Fatmonk8]

Post a shirtless pic and DEXA Claus will tell you your body fat.
That’ll end that part.

Anyone notice Ketchup checked out? That outta tell us something.

It really was not my intention to piss anyone off.

 

[Sector.]

Then that is what I'll do.

Look into my diet, maybe add some more carbs pre-workout. Maybe increase test.

Keep the var for when I really need it.

Sounds like a better plan, I can get behind this.

Only adjustment I would make is add the carbs post workout. Let your body burn through free fatty acids for the workout, then post workout, high carb + high protein for the insulin spike and repair/recovery. The insulin spike from the carbs will shuttle the nutrients into the muscle better where if you eat carbs before you’ll mostly just be burning blood glucose throughout the workout (maybe some fatty acids too, but a lot of blood glucose)

 

[Syntha Claus]

No one is pissed off. We are used to this type of thing.

My man, there are many of us here who charge for our coaching services. Lots of us come here and try to help, free of charge in the interest of community AND sincerely trying to help people.
Hell, once I even paid for a DEXA scan, posted pics of my 24% body fat self aaaand offered up a contest with a cash price for the closest guess.
So rather than merely giving free advice, I SPENT money to further education and enlightenment on our board here at ASF.

So if you (and anyone else looking at your thread) is coming here for advice, maybe it will become apparent that our responses come from this sentiment.

 

[Bigjape34]

Even if my bf is dropping fast? Or does that not matter?

Doesn't reta also help clear out stored glycogen in the liver? So I wouldn't have stored energy if I'm not getting enough in?

Wouldn't that also contribute to lower energy/strength in the gym?

I can’t believe I just read through two pages of this seasoned vers and very knowledgeable people have given you plenty of info and advice and you keep using Reddit info and what you’ve “read” as an excuse to justify what you want to do. No offense but you obviously don’t have experience with this hence why your asking but than don’t listen.

 

[Fatmonk8]

I can’t believe I just read through two pages of this seasoned vers and very knowledgeable people have given you plenty of info and advice and you keep using Reddit info and what you’ve “read” as an excuse to justify what you want to do. No offense but you obviously don’t have experience with this hence why your asking but than don’t listen.

I am listening. The post you quoted was an honest ask.

I have come to terms that I am wrong and I am listening to everyone now.

I am 100% inexperienced, that's why I am here asking questions.

I also pointed out that Reddit was a bad choice from the beginning.

I am new to this just like everyone else was.

I'm living and learning man.

 

[Fatmonk8]

Post a shirtless pic and DEXA Claus will tell you your body fat.
That’ll end that part.

Anyone notice Ketchup checked out? That outta tell us something.

Honest question, where do I even find. DEXA scan? Looked through Google and saw a DEXAFit near me, but do another other places offer this?

 

[jpe1]

Not a seasoned user, so take this for what it’s worth. I’m training for a powerlifting comp when I turn 40 next year. I also wanted to lean out and move into a lower weight class, so I’ve been cutting for a bit and have about 8 weeks left.

If you’re training for strength while cutting, expect to take a bit of a hit. I’m still making progress but there are definitely days that just suck. You can still improve but it’s more about refining your technique, bar path, and overall efficiency than actually building new strength while cutting (as a PLer)

A few things that have helped me still see some strength gains while cutting:

• I bumped my test from 120mg to 150mg wk.
• Added GH at 2 IU daily.
• Started carb cycling — medium carbs on lift days, low on off days, and a high-carb day once a month (Look up Justin Harris for information if you aren't familiar).
• And like Tommy said above eating properly before training helps a lot — some quick-digesting carbs pre-lift go a long way with feeling better.
• Mentally accept this isn't the growth phase.

 

[SamPedd18]

Yes, I been eating a quick 20g - 30g pre workout.

Since you’re in a deep cut as you say, then structure the majority of your carbs around your workouts, meaning pre, intra and post. Me personally I don’t the 20-30 grams of carbs PWO is that much. Also as it’s already been said, up your test to 300-400mgs. It will help with recovery at least. Get your BF lower before adding anything else. If you don’t then you’re just pissing away money.

 

[rawbuilt]

its just anavar lol girls use that shit

throw it in if you want

 

[Wiseguy]

I thought it would help give me a boost in strength, that's it. Not looking for anything else.

Copy. It will give you a little boost but nothing major, at least that's my experience. I use var during cutting regularly. It helps be get rid of some stubborn lower stomach fat but my body fat is extremely low. I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to add var during cutting. You will see good results with lower bodyfat and clean diet and workout routine. Best of luck brother.

 

[Fatmonk8]

Copy. It will give you a little boost but nothing major, at least that's my experience. I use var during cutting regularly. It helps be get rid of some stubborn lower stomach fat but my body fat is extremely low. I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to add var during cutting. You will see good results with lower bodyfat and clean diet and workout routine. Best of luck brother.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

Either way I'm just going to drop it and take the advice given.

Think I'll save it for later at this point.

 

[Bigdaddyjak]

I %100 get it , and don’t fault you for it . We read so much bullshit that people post, how doing an Indian rain dance every morning makes my body just grow and feel awesome and I drop 5 lbs a dance !! And always wanting to add just another compound or 2 or 6 . And you will get some benefits from this 6 , probably a lot more sides !if u throw in something else it’s not the end of the world . But you just may not get much of anything out of it (maybe you will) ! Except really dark piss and a swollen prostate !!

 

[dcdogz]

i used it at your bodyfat and it didnt do shit besides wreck my lipids for 4 months.

not worth at all youre just pissing money away.

 

[Fatmonk8]

i used it at your bodyfat and it didnt do shit besides wreck my lipids for 4 months.

not worth at all youre just pissing money away.

Thanks, I appreciate the input. And I am taking it to heart. Don't want to piss money away.

Unrelated question though as you have in your signature to ask about semaglutide questions.

I asked the question above and was actually curious, does reta actually deplete glycogenin the liver, so if I'm not getting enough fuel source for my workout I could be suffering a little because I don't have a "stored" source?

 

[dcdogz]

Thanks, I appreciate the input. And I am taking it to heart. Don't want to piss money away.

Unrelated question though as you have in your signature to ask about semaglutide questions.

I asked the question above and was actually curious, does reta actually deplete glycogenin the liver, so if I'm not getting enough fuel source for my workout I could be suffering a little because I don't have a "stored" source?

i dont mess with reta, but you have plenty of fat stores so nothing is going to be depleted from you until you are sub 10%.
I think im leaner then you right now, and im just on 200 test and 6iu hgh and leaning out really good with nothing else and still maintaining my strength for the most part.

check the last page of my log for updated pics.

as far as I can tell, im also not that close to busting out orals or anything either, so if you arent as lean as me, then I would not worry about it what so ever.

 

[Fatmonk8]

i dont mess with reta, but you have plenty of fat stores so nothing is going to be depleted from you until you are sub 10%.
I think im leaner then you right now, and im just on 200 test and 6iu hgh and leaning out really good with nothing else and still maintaining my strength for the most part.

check the last page of my log for updated pics.

as far as I can tell, im also not that close to busting out orals or anything either, so if you arent as lean as me, then I would not worry about it what so ever.

Fair enough.

 

[Syntha Claus]

Honest question, where do I even find. DEXA scan? Looked through Google and saw a DEXAFit near me, but do another other places offer this?

You don’t need a DEXA. I told you, post a pic, front and back relaxed. I can get you withing a couple of percent, as I think a few of us seasoned guys can.
But realistically, that number means diddly squat. How you look is what matters.

And I think anavar is worthless for guys. I haven’t seen anything remotely remarkable about it.
Great for women because of its relative safety and less androgenic effects.
Anavar does nothing for me I can’t do with diet alone. And that shit would be expensive at effective doses…whatever that might be.

 

[Fatmonk8]

You don’t need a DEXA. I told you, post a pic, front and back relaxed. I can get you withing a couple of percent, as I think a few of us seasoned guys can.
But realistically, that number means diddly squat. How you look is what matters.

And I think anavar is worthless for guys. I haven’t seen anything remotely remarkable about it.
Great for women because of its relative safety and less androgenic effects.
Anavar does nothing for me I can’t do with diet alone. And that shit would be expensive at effective doses…whatever that might be.

Oh my bad, though you said post a pic and DEXA.

 

[dcdogz]

Fair enough.

as far as losing strength, I recommend just training harder lol.
you will lose some strength on a cut, but on trt it should be limited.

sooo rub a little toughness on it. good luck.