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MOTS-C, PEG-MGF and IGF-LR3 dosing.

Syntha Claus

Syntha Claus

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I have some of these coming. I looked at the internet...er...I mean did extensive research and the dosing is all over the place.

Run them separately, run them together, doing times, pinning locations...all of these things I have no clue about. At least not enough to start using with confidence.

How would you do these peptides based on your experience?

I run HGH at 2iu daily, all year long if I have it and I would probably keep doing this when adding any or all of these peptides.
 
MOTS-C and HGH are the only two I have experience with on your list.
For MTS-C first dose use 1mg. Just to assess tolerance.
There was a YouTuber that ended up in the hospital after taking it recently so it’s always a good plan to use caution on the first dose.
If it doesn’t send you to the hospital then 5mg once a day or 10mg once every other day is great! At least it was for me.
I also do 3ius intramuscular HGH at night before bed and run it year round. So you will be good with the GH and MOTS-C
Unfortunately I don’t have experience with the others you have listed but at least this is something for you to get started with.
 
Curious of your interest in LR3, Coach, what mechanism of action in this peptide are you researching?
 
I’ve kind of settled on 5mg mots-c/day

It’s been working well. Great glucose lowering effects and fat loss, probably boosts insulin sensitivity a good bit as well


I probably wouldn’t run all 3 at once—hard to figure out what’s doing what

Plus real igf-1 lowers blood sugar as well, combined with mots-c that could maybe lead to some hypo bouts
 
I started MotsC at 1mg a day and have since bumped to 2mg. I know many push it higher, but I’ve seen benefits here. I am stacking it with SLU, so that synergy is likely something to consider as far as my dosing.
 
FearsomeCOR said:
I started MotsC at 1mg a day and have since bumped to 2mg. I know many push it higher, but I’ve seen benefits here. I am stacking it with SLU, so that synergy is likely something to consider as far as my dosing.
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How much SLU are you doing? these two are the next two peptides I might try. Seems SLU dosages are all over the place
 
FearsomeCOR said:
I started MotsC at 1mg a day and have since bumped to 2mg. I know many push it higher, but I’ve seen benefits here. I am stacking it with SLU, so that synergy is likely something to consider as far as my dosing.
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What kind of benefits have you noticed if you don’t mind?
 
I've run some LR3 before coach, its been years. I ran it at 200mcg post workout.

A few times I would dose 100mcg pre and then 100mcg post. I would just have an intra carb source with you if dosing pre.
 
Wardamn said:
I've run some LR3 before coach, its been years. I ran it at 200mcg post workout.

A few times I would dose 100mcg pre and then 100mcg post. I would just have an intra carb source with you if dosing pre.
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Notice anything? I didn’t really, why I’m asking.
 
Nood said:
Thanks, my days are similar to yours. Be nice to not befriend dragging ass in the afternoon. Might have to pick up a kit
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Go for it bro, would be very interested to hear your experience!
 
i do 10mg a week on Mots-c .. divided 3 shots T,TH,Sat love the energy boost that i use it as pre workout. i last longer training
 
Wardamn said:
Not enough to want to make it a staple to run. Some increased fullness and pumps. Nothing I wouldn't get out of increasing GH a couple of IUs.
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This was my experience too. Had a full kit of 99% pure HPLC tested igf1-lr3. Used the full kit. Dosing ranged from 50mcg a day at the start to 300mcg/day

Some pumps and fullness, maybe some fat loss, but overall not worth it imo. Wouldn’t buy it again.

I do want to give IGF-des a try in the future on leg days to see if the localized growth is noticeable, but with the way the China situation is now and the lack of availability it might be a couple years before this happens. Think I’ll just stick to gh for now
 
Sector. said:
This was my experience too. Had a full kit of 99% pure HPLC tested igf1-lr3. Used the full kit. Dosing ranged from 50mcg a day at the start to 300mcg/day

Some pumps and fullness, maybe some fat loss, but overall not worth it imo. Wouldn’t buy it again.

I do want to give IGF-des a try in the future on leg days to see if the localized growth is noticeable, but with the way the China situation is now and the lack of availability it might be a couple years before this happens. Think I’ll just stick to gh for now
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Same, I would run it again if someone gave me a kit but I don't think I'll spend my money on it.
 
Syntha Claus said:
I have some of these coming. I looked at the internet...er...I mean did extensive research and the dosing is all over the place.

Run them separately, run them together, doing times, pinning locations...all of these things I have no clue about. At least not enough to start using with confidence.

How would you do these peptides based on your experience?

I run HGH at 2iu daily, all year long if I have it and I would probably keep doing this when adding any or all of these peptides.
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Why did you get these if you don’t know how to use them or why?

PEG-mgf is a good “repair” tool similar in that sense to HGH and you normally stop HGH while using PEG-mgf, at least I do. IGF-lr3 was popular but personally I think HGH is better. MotsC I can’t comment, never used it.
Bottom line is you can’t really use them “wrong” or too much etc. they’re not like an anabolic in that nature. I just get tired pinning 4-5 times a day.
 
tommygunz said:
Why did you get these if you don’t know how to use them or why?

PEG-mgf is a good “repair” tool similar in that sense to HGH and you normally stop HGH while using PEG-mgf, at least I do. IGF-lr3 was popular but personally I think HGH is better. MotsC I can’t comment, never used it.
Bottom line is you can’t really use them “wrong” or too much etc. they’re not like an anabolic in that nature. I just get tired pinning 4-5 times a day.
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My query is more about stacking them and what dosages. I have used LR3 and MOTS-C before and quite frankly, noticed not a damn thing. But the same could be said for HGH, although over time, I have no doubt that HGH is doing something.
I just finished two vials of TB/BPC and also saw no difference. But this happened last time I tried. I just started GLOW yesterday and will see if the TB/BPC works with the synergistic Ghk-Cu blended in.

I also saw no difference with the LR3 at 100mcg post w/o. I went through two mg of that shit.

So my real question is like I said before, dosage and stacking for synergy. I am just sick of steroids and aside from TRT, don’t care to be pinning oils, even E3D.
I bought them now because I am heading home in a couple of weeks and it is essier to get them now than later, which is always a big hassle and a long lead time.
I would have bought some SLUPP but I ain’t paying $100 or more when I know the real cost of all these peptides. Even if I decide to not use them, I know plenty of people at home chomping at the bit to get peptides. The ones they sell in Mexico….well, it’s Mexico. 🌮🇲🇽🌯🫔
 
Syntha Claus said:
My query is more about stacking them and what dosages. I have used LR3 and MOTS-C before and quite frankly, noticed not a damn thing. But the same could be said for HGH, although over time, I have no doubt that HGH is doing something.
I just finished two vials of TB/BPC and also saw no difference. But this happened last time I tried. I just started GLOW yesterday and will see if the TB/BPC works with the synergistic Ghk-Cu blended in.

I also saw no difference with the LR3 at 100mcg post w/o. I went through two mg of that shit.

So my real question is like I said before, dosage and stacking for synergy. I am just sick of steroids and aside from TRT, don’t care to be pinning oils, even E3D.
I bought them now because I am heading home in a couple of weeks and it is essier to get them now than later, which is always a big hassle and a long lead time.
I would have bought some SLUPP but I ain’t paying $100 or more when I know the real cost of all these peptides. Even if I decide to not use them, I know plenty of people at home chomping at the bit to get peptides. The ones they sell in Mexico….well, it’s Mexico. 🌮🇲🇽🌯🫔
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What you are saying is what’s to be expected of peps after experiencing AAS for any length of time. I’d say it’s like a lite beer to a bourbon drinker. I’ve used many peptides and have not really ever noticed an “onset”, the results were cumulative over time and subtle. Peps like BP/TB are highly overrated as well as IGF and a few others that guys rave about. I used PEG-mgf instead of HGH for a couple months and notice some therapeutic benefits while recovering from complications due to hip replacement. Mostly nagging tendon issues, it’s not a miracle drug, just an adjunct. I see guys posting the usual’s, severed left leg grew back with TB/BP pinned in a circular pattern on the stump. I’ll say right now it’s 10% drugs, 10% placebo effect and 80% time. “ My torn rotator cuff cured in half the time”. Can someone please tell me the “standard” recovery time of a partial labrum tear?

Your assessment of peptides is pretty accurate. I was more curious about why you’d get them here. Seems strange you can purchase AAS OTC but peps are hard to get. If I were you I’d buy up as much as possible and take them back to Mexico and supplement your wallet instead of you 😉
 
Syntha Claus said:
I have some of these coming. I looked at the internet...er...I mean did extensive research and the dosing is all over the place.

Run them separately, run them together, doing times, pinning locations...all of these things I have no clue about. At least not enough to start using with confidence.

How would you do these peptides based on your experience?

I run HGH at 2iu daily, all year long if I have it and I would probably keep doing this when adding any or all of these peptides.
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many of the peptides being discussed in this thread have completely different applications and purposes… which ones are you getting?
 
tommygunz said:
If I were you I’d buy up as much as possible and take them back to Mexico and supplement your wallet instead of you 😉
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I have things “in the works”.
I have been fielding comms from people I do business with from my former product production. All are very interested. Peptides can be purchased there but again, Mexico=Mexico legit quality, aka bogus.

I use importers that I used previously to import expensive equipment from the LOTF. They have no issues importing peptides but they have to through the USA. Everything coming in to Mexico through post gets duty attached or seized. They want their pesos.

But from a personal use standpoint, I am just looking for something else. I don’t expect a replacement for steroids. Just something more than placebo.
You bring up a good point though. How many times do we see “I gots massive gainz from xxxx!”?
But not a single one of these guys have anything to show for it. “I gained 30lbs of muscle…” but they are still 185lbs and barely look like a gym Joe.

I can continue on with just TRT and still make progress. I did exactly this last year. I just would like to not be so fucking sore and miserable all the time.

And for the record and the 1,000th time, steroids aren’t exactly available OTC. Unless you are doing only deca and test cycles. With the deca being 50mg/ml, good luck not turning into Mr. Oilympia.
 
Mots-c is great but I wouldn’t say it’s a muscle builder.

The endurance is amazing on it; and it absolutely will improve your blood glucose and insulin sensitivity if it’s real.

Mots-c+ low dose Reta with cardio will have your glucose+a1c+ insulin sensitivity at impeccable levels. You’ll be firing on all cylinders in this regard. This will help with fat loss and muscle building indirectly if you have insulin sensitivity maxed out.

I use it strictly for that reason and I love it. I think most people end up disappointed because they take peptides and their expectations aren’t aligned with the reality of what the peptide does. They take these peptides and expect similar results of AAS+ gh, and many times it doesn’t work like this—but that’s not to say they don’t have uses
 
Syntha Claus said:
I can continue on with just TRT and still make progress. I did exactly this last year. I just would like to not be so fucking sore and miserable all the time.
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That’s not supplementation, that’s age brother. You can’t beat it. You’re doing more over 60 than many do at 30. Pain is the result.
 
tommygunz said:
That’s not supplementation, that’s age brother. You can’t beat it. You’re doing more over 60 than many do at 30. Pain is the result.
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I think he’d love KLOW honestly

It’s knocked out a lot of inflammation and nagging injuries. It’ll probably be more pronounced at 60
 
Sector. said:
I think he’d love KLOW honestly

It’s knocked out a lot of inflammation and nagging injuries. It’ll probably be more pronounced at 60
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I had to look that up, it’s an interesting blend. I get inflammation relief from Peg-mgf over time.
 

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