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Masteron / Dr Todd Lee

I would not say tren can be used for months easily. for most people the side effects are pretty bad and even for those that don't seem to have them as badly, I have been round long enough to see a few of my good friends that just ran the shit out of tren blow out their heart or kidneys.
I wouldn't recommend it, but it's so tempting to run tren for extended periods of time when microdosing at 4mg/Day doesn't do much to impact bloods negatively. :)

People who say that dose isn't effective have probably never tried it. You will certainly notice a partitioning effect.
 
I wouldn't recommend it, but it's so tempting to run tren for extended periods of time when microdosing at 4mg/Day doesn't do much to impact bloods negatively. :)

People who say that dose isn't effective have probably never tried it. You will certainly notice a partitioning effect.
I never ran it that low but for a few cycles I added in 25 mg 3x a week tren ace and it was transformative. It is massively potent. The original Finajet was only 30 mg/mL and I think that was for injecting cattle.
 
I never ran it that low but for a few cycles I added in 25 mg 3x a week tren ace and it was transformative. It is massively potent. The original Finajet was only 30 mg/mL and I think that was for injecting cattle.
Finajet 30's! :)

The 4mg was great. Zero sides and noticeable positive effects. Bloods were pretty much normal. From start to finish.

I've ran tren at 75mg, 150mg, 300mg etc throughout the years and to be honest I didn't see much if any difference between the 4mg/Day compared to the 75mg/Week.

Just me,
 
It's funny how all roads lead back to test and GH at the end of the journey. lol We all go through the phase of wanting to run every compound under the sun, stack this with that when it comes down to moderate dosages of test, a DHT and GH yields the best/safest results.

As far as Mast and prostate: I rarely see it impact the prostate negatively. Now that's not to say certain people do but as a norm, I don't see it. A reason for the increased urination may be attributed to the drying out effect of mast, thus we excrete water as taking this such as winny.

It's so hard to pinpoint these compounds as we all know its user based.

You. I've ran just about everything and really running test and gh works best, and maybe sinething just as an ai
 
You. I've ran just about everything and really running test and gh works best, and maybe sinething just as an ai
I’ve thought about this quite a bit to be honest but have yet to try it. Like someone already said, a lot of us get caught up in wanting to try everything because it’s just so tempting, right? But I’m with y’all, I don’t see how mast or primo or even nandrolone is as anabolic or safe as test. But it’s all individual I suppose. My guess is you’d be better off running a higher dose of test rather than a lower dose with a bunch of other stuff sprinkled in like Todd recommends. A gram of test would likely yield better results in most guys than, say, 250 test and 750 mast or primo. Plus it’s cheaper and likely safer, if that’s what you’re after.
 
, I don’t see how mast or primo or even nandrolone is as anabolic or safe as test.
It's literally user dependent as you mentioned, but Mast and Primo will most often incur less sides than Test btw. (safer) :)

Moderate Test, low to Moderate DHT and GH. If people can't grow on that, play video games.
 
It's literally user dependent as you mentioned, but Mast and Primo will most often incur less sides than Test btw. (safer) :)

Moderate Test, low to Moderate DHT and GH. If people can't grow on that, play video games.
the kids now a days say " youre cooked chat"
 
I can’t tell you how many times I hear “Bro’s cooked” coming out of my two teenage boys’ mouths. They almost speak a different language.
im verbally abused by my son on the daily in a language i dont understand. i know hes speaking english to me but the words are not being processed by my cortex.
 
I can’t tell you how many times I hear “Bro’s cooked” coming out of my two teenage boys’ mouths. They almost speak a different language.

It’s the brain rot content they consume. Just watching one of those videos makes you feel old.
 
700test/400mast how would you guys critique that cycle? I’ve been running that for 4 weeks and have seen good progress. Everyday pins here to keep levels.

Would I be better off throwing in some primo with this at say test700/primo200/mast200?

Primo is just so tough on the wallet.
 
700test/400mast how would you guys critique that cycle? I’ve been running that for 4 weeks and have seen good progress. Everyday pins here to keep levels.

Would I be better off throwing in some primo with this at say test700/primo200/mast200?

Primo is just so tough on the wallet.
If you are seeing good results, why would you change anything?
 
I’ve ran npp and deca and with both even on a good clean diet macroed out specifically to grow I get too watery like a water buffalo. Do I gain more on npp or deca of course but how much of that is water and how much of that is actual tissue?

With mast I am hard. Which imo in turn leads to better training sessions bc I get more of a mind muscle connection with the weights. I can feel the muscle working more and am less apt to just go in and want to “move the weight”.

I do wonder tho about the “flat” on mast thing. It’s more of a job to stay fuller on mast imo. I wonder if adding in some primo or even npp with the mast would help with some fullness?
 
I’ve ran npp and deca and with both even on a good clean diet macroed out specifically to grow I get too watery like a water buffalo. Do I gain more on npp or deca of course but how much of that is water and how much of that is actual tissue?

With mast I am hard. Which imo in turn leads to better training sessions bc I get more of a mind muscle connection with the weights. I can feel the muscle working more and am less apt to just go in and want to “move the weight”.

I do wonder tho about the “flat” on mast thing. It’s more of a job to stay fuller on mast imo. I wonder if adding in some primo or even npp with the mast would help with some fullness?
You’re overthinking this. It sounds like you wanna run Primo and want validation to run it. You’re not gonna notice much if any difference if you added or replace mast with Primo Flatness is mostly
due to glycogen stores not a specific type of DHT
 
You’re overthinking this. It sounds like you wanna run Primo and want validation to run it. You’re not gonna notice much if any difference if you added or replace mast with Primo Flatness is mostly
due to glycogen stores not a specific type of DHT
Then some need to be educated on that very point. Bc I heard numerous ppl say that mast does indeed cause them to be “flat”.

Really I just want validation on not running primo. Right now it’s the supposed golden ticket in the industry but it’s also a killer on the wallet.
 
John, in regard to Primo and Mast, speaks that aside from the E2 reducing aspect of primo will yield very similar results across the board as Mast, which I've seen for years in myself and clients. In fact, in a calorie surplus most people wouldn't know the difference if you didn't tell them which one was being injected. Run both, see which one you like better. Simple as that and don't over complicate things.
Have you heard of women using mast? My gf’s coach is a j3u guy, and he was pushing her to use mast this off season. I’ve NEVER heard of this.

Fuck mast masculinizes me. Have no idea why a woman would choose that drug, but their argument is all dht drugs have the same androgenicity — seems like some bs.
 
Have you heard of women using mast? My gf’s coach is a j3u guy, and he was pushing her to use mast this off season. I’ve NEVER heard of this.

Fuck mast masculinizes me. Have no idea why a woman would choose that drug, but their argument is all dht drugs have the same androgenicity — seems like some bs.
It was developed for women with breast cancer.
 
do you have a link where he said this? or recall where you heard it?
Question wasn't aimed at me, but he and I are friends, worked together and have spoken about it personally. I know he said it on his channel that got banned a couple of years ago, but not sure if he has recently. Years ago, he's the one who convinced me to try a Deca/Primo only and was one of the best I have had.
 
Have you heard of women using mast? My gf’s coach is a j3u guy, and he was pushing her to use mast this off season. I’ve NEVER heard of this.

Fuck mast masculinizes me. Have no idea why a woman would choose that drug, but their argument is all dht drugs have the same androgenicity — seems like some bs.

Its becoming more popular.

I don't believe they all have the same androgenicity.

I've seen some girls who can run 20mg of Var a day with no issues. You give them 20mg of primo only a day and they start getting some virilization. Like everything. It's going to vary per the individual.
 
Its becoming more popular.

I don't believe they all have the same androgenicity.

I've seen some girls who can run 20mg of Var a day with no issues. You give them 20mg of primo only a day and they start getting some virilization.
The studies I was referring to for breast cancer showed very littles sides which is wild. Especially at such high dosages and long periods of time. Mast, Primo and Var as safe as you can get.
 

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