I agree that nandrolone has given me the best gains. I love Deca.
As long as they aren’t blends.
Fuckin lazy people. LMMFAOAs long as they aren’t blends.
If you want an ai then use eq. Mast isn't an ai I dint know why he keeps comparing the two. His logic is that you shouldn't be using beyond trt doses if you have to control your e2 with drugs. Yeah this bodybuilding not hormone replacement. If you want to grow you need test, and the more you up your test the more you need to be aware of e2 levels. His logic here is beyond stupid.
And the more you up your test, the more you grow provided everything else is in line. I don’t agree with Todd on the Mast thing either. Mast may be anabolic, but nowhere near as much as test. You’d be better off running higher test and save the Mast for something else if adding size is your goal.
John, in regard to Primo and Mast, speaks that aside from the E2 reducing aspect of primo will yield very similar results across the board as Mast, which I've seen for years in myself and clients. In fact, in a calorie surplus most people wouldn't know the difference if you didn't tell them which one was being injected. Run both, see which one you like better. Simple as that and don't over complicate things.
So basically spending double or more on primo over mast isn’t worth digging into your wallet for correct?
If money is an issue there isn't anything wrong with replacing Primo w/ Mast. Just manage your E2 if needed.
I gotta get me one of them there YouTube channel things on the interwebz. Maybe It'll be a gigolo channel that caters to grannies GILFs or even fat old women.
I think it’s a solid and relatively safe strategy for the long term.
Test as high as you can handle it is a lot different than saying you should only take 20mg a day and if your estrogen increases that means you're taking too much. lol.
You've seen a similar e2 from mast? mg for mg? Generally curious on this one.
@Meetketchup nevermind just reread this I'm dumb lol
Mast is just a compound with minimal sides and doesn't effect estrogen, so it can be added to your hearts desire. Id say upping test and then using an AI whether that be a dedicated AI like asin or AI like AAS like Eq or primo are good too.
I'm not convinced masteron is safer than a bio identical hormone like test. And he's literally out there telling people to only take 140mg of test a week but use a gram of mast a week. One could easily drive test up to 500mg take the mast out and would prob be safer and more effective.
I’m not convinced either because Masteron wrecks my prostate which he swears he’s never seen Masteron do that and it’s just a myth. I run 300mgs of mast and I pee every 15 minutes with half the pee squirting out after I done tucked my shit away which is clearly an enlarged prostate issue. As always it’s all individual, that’s why I never like telling people what drugs to use or how much, because everyone reacts differently, even training routines there’s movements machines that just work with my biomechanics that my gym partner may not feel crap on or just doesn’t work for him.
I’m not convinced either because Masteron wrecks my prostate which he swears he’s never seen Masteron do that and it’s just a myth. I run 300mgs of mast and I pee every 15 minutes with half the pee squirting out after I done tucked my shit away which is clearly an enlarged prostate issue. As always it’s all individual, that’s why I never like telling people what drugs to use or how much, because everyone reacts differently, even training routines there’s movements machines that just work with my biomechanics that my gym partner may not feel crap on or just doesn’t work for him.
I need to lower my estrogen on only 300mg of test which puts me at 1500ng/dl tt, so again his protocol doesn’t work for me. I would need to use primo instead and drive it up as high as needed to where my e2 is in range and if I want more mgs then add Masteron. There’s others who can run a gram of test with zero ai.
There’s a synergy to high anabolics and GH, that’s where his logic comes from. Where the testosterone is just high enough to be high normal tt and e2 for max systemic igf1 which is not even the igf you want, but whatever And then run you the mgs up with what he believes to be the safest anabolic. The dude also claims Masteron has nothing to do with losing hair while having no hair
Every one I know who’s big asf ran testosterone high, with GH, so I believe that to be the most effective route, although for guys like myself who run into a bunch of issues at low dose test it’s not ideal, everything ain’t for everyone.
There’s also pretty big dudes that never abused anything, so there’s also that. So many variables, if you don’t plan on being 300lbs I don’t see why even risk experimenting with these level of cycles.
I would not say tren can be used for months easily. for most people the side effects are pretty bad and even for those that don't seem to have them as badly, I have been round long enough to see a few of my good friends that just ran the shit out of tren blow out their heart or kidneys.
It's funny how all roads lead back to test and GH at the end of the journey. lol We all go through the phase of wanting to run every compound under the sun, stack this with that when it comes down to moderate dosages of test, a DHT and GH yields the best/safest results.
