When do you eat fat when cutting

[pumphigh]

Pretty much the title. When do you eat most of the fat when cutting or is it evenly spead out through the day? Atm I consume 0-5g the first 3-4hours of waking up so pretty much nothing. Then about half of the days limit in another 3-4hours but not any two hours before training. And the remaining for dinner/after workout. Made me think if it would be better to consume more in the morning..

 

[Nood]

I don’t have much added fats when cutting. Typically just on low carb days. As long as your in a deficit it doesn’t really matter if your having fats or not. Body is going to use them for what it wants.

 

[Meetketchup]

You don't. You eat just enough to maintain bodily function and utilize carbs for energy. If any is added it is far away from your workouts.

 

[pumphigh]

You don't. You eat just enough to maintain bodily function and utilize carbs for energy. If any is added it is far away from your workouts.

Far away? I absolutely need it a few hours before workout otherwise I am week as hell no matter how many carbs I eat, I guess it depends per any individual.. I found out I respond better to the higher fat lower carbs.

 

[Astro95]

Far away? I absolutely need it a few hours before workout otherwise I am week as hell no matter how many carbs I eat, I guess it depends per any individual.. I found out I respond better to the higher fat lower carbs.

If you already found out the answer why ask and counter the advice from a bodybuilder/coach?

 

[pumphigh]

If you already found out the answer why ask and counter the advice from a bodybuilder/coach?

I was curious when others consume fat throughout the day. I am thankful for every input I get including bodybuilder/coaches's.

 

[Meetketchup]

Far away? I absolutely need it a few hours before workout otherwise I am week as hell no matter how many carbs I eat, I guess it depends per any individual.. I found out I respond better to the higher fat lower carbs.

You being weak before the workout due to lack of fats doesn't make much sense. Fat takes a long time to digest. Maybe it's the type of carbs you are consuming pre workout that may be the issue OR a lack of carbs in general. Glycogen stores may be low from day prior.

You're 100% right though...it's individual on how you want to utilize energy. You pick fats or carbs. The problem is when people try to go mid-range on the two together. Whatever works for you.

 

[Astro95]

I was curious when others consume fat throughout the day. I am thankful for every input I get including bodybuilder/coaches's.

I eat 3:1 carbs/protein before training, 0 fat. I train first thing after waking up, so 1st meal. My fat is spread throughout the rest of the day as I eat meals with fat content.

 

[Astro95]

You being weak before the workout due to lack of fats doesn't make much sense. Fat takes a long time to digest. Maybe it's the type of carbs you are consuming pre workout that may be the issue OR a lack of carbs in general. Glycogen stores may be low from day prior.

You're 100% right though...it's individual on how you want to utilize energy. You pick fats or carbs. The problem is when people try to go mid-range on the two together. Whatever works for you.

You won’t have that problem if you’re weak regardless

 

[Meetketchup]

I eat 3:1 carbs/protein before training, 0 fat. I train first thing after waking up, so 1st meal. My fat is spread throughout the rest of the day as I eat meals with fat content.

This above. A lot of this is about glycogen stores, @Astro95 and guys like me have no problems training fasted first thing in the morning because our glycogen stores are filled from the day/night prior. If eating prior to training...You want quickly digesting along with the post workout meal. Fats are not that.

 

[pumphigh]

This above. A lot of this is about glycogen stores, @Astro95 and guys like me have no problems training fasted first thing in the morning because our glycogen stores are filled from the day/night prior. You want quickly digesting pre and post workout. Fats are not that.

When is the last time you eat in cutting phase before going to sleep? I suppose it's mostly carbs.

 

[Meetketchup]

When is the last time you eat in cutting phase before going to sleep? I suppose it's mostly carbs.

I eat 6 meals spread through the day, so my last meal is usually right before bed, but it's no different than off-season or contest prep. Whether it's 2 hours before bed or right before makes ZERO difference. Don't over think things. Daily carb intake is what is truly important. How many carbs and fats are you eating per day?

 

[pumphigh]

I eat 5 meals through the day, macros are: 236g protein, 270g carbs, 75g fats / 35% 40% 25% / 2.700cal 216lbs from 238lbs in approx 2months at heaviest I was eating around 3500cals to 4000, I have to add I do eat a little bit more carbs because of various fruits I eat 30minutes before workout.

 

[Meetketchup]

I eat 5 meals through the day, macros are: 236g protein, 270g carbs, 75g fats / 35% 40% 25% / 2.700cal 216lbs from 238lbs in approx 2months at heaviest I was eating around 3500cals to 4000, I have to add I do eat a little bit more carbs because of various fruits I eat 30minutes before workout.

Are you on gear or natural? If on gear I would lower fats and raise carbs...would be willing to guess that your energy for workouts would increase and you would speed up weight loss. Also, up the fast-digesting carbs/fruit pre workout if you need the boost.

Just my 2 cents

 

[pumphigh]

Are you on gear or natural? If on gear I would lower fats and raise carbs...would be willing to guess that your energy for workouts would increase and you would speed up weight loss. Also, up the fast-digesting carbs/fruit pre workout if you need the boost.

Just my 2 cents

Thank you very much.
I am natural. I recently started eating apple, mandarines, bananas, etc. before workouts and it helps tremendously. Yesterday I took about half a teaspoon of Sodium before workout aswell (read it here it's an oldschool trick for even better pumps etc.), what's your take on that?

 

[Battousai]

Just eat leaner meats, you'll still get a tiny bit of fat and then add a few grams of fish oil.

 

[Battousai]

This above. A lot of this is about glycogen stores, @Astro95 and guys like me have no problems training fasted first thing in the morning because our glycogen stores are filled from the day/night prior. If eating prior to training...You want quickly digesting along with the post workout meal. Fats are not that.

I know an idiot friend that thinks eating carbs will make you fat and ironically he looks like shit. Alcoholic as well, lmao. He trains at like 4am and I keep trying to tell him to eat carbs preworkout.

 

[Battousai]

Thank you very much.
I am natural. I recently started eating apple, mandarines, bananas, etc. before workouts and it helps tremendously. Yesterday I took about half a teaspoon of Sodium before workout aswell (read it here it's an oldschool trick for even better pumps etc.), what's your take on that?

Sodium definitely helps a workout.

 

[Meetketchup]

Thank you very much.
I am natural. I recently started eating apple, mandarines, bananas, etc. before workouts and it helps tremendously. Yesterday I took about half a teaspoon of Sodium before workout aswell (read it here it's an oldschool trick for even better pumps etc.), what's your take on that?

Sea Salt prior to workout is a nice add. Also try eating the fruit pre workout a little earlier to give it time to digest which is usually an hour or so for most fruits/fructose.

Oh and stay natty. If you ever need coaching hit me up.

 

[Meetketchup]

Just eat leaner meats, you'll still get a tiny bit of fat and then add a few grams of fish oil.

Lean meats should already be what's consumed.

 

[Astro95]

I know an idiot friend that thinks eating carbs will make you fat and ironically he looks like shit. Alcoholic as well, lmao. He trains at like 4am and I keep trying to tell him to eat carbs preworkout.

I mean beer has carbs… a six pack should get him ready to go at 4am

 

[Wiseguy]

I eat the same way year around, proteins and fats only. The only difference is I reduce calories.

 

[dcdogz]

I mean beer has carbs… a six pack should get him ready to go at 4am

if you want a six pack, drink a six pack i always say

 

[Glycomann]

For me it's not static and i don't respond well to higher carbs in a cut. I cycle down carbs over days and then when I am flat I cut fat further for a couple days. Then the cycle starts again. Carbs never go over 200 g/d during a cut. I haven't done a cut in a while. But that's what works for me in the past. What i perceive is happening is I have depleted glycogen to the point that when i fut fat my body has to dig into the fat stores more. Cycling back out of that I am refilling glycogen and then the cycle starts again to deplete it. It's pretty simple really. The rest is picking the right clean foods and staying disciplined.

 

[Astro95]

For me it's not static and i don't respond well to higher carbs in a cut. I cycle down carbs over days and then when I am flat I cut fat further for a couple days. Then the cycle starts again. Carbs never go over 200 g/d during a cut. I haven't done a cut in a while. But that's what works for me in the past. What i perceive is happening is I have depleted glycogen to the point that when i fut fat my body has to dig into the fat stores more. Cycling back out of that I am refilling glycogen and then the cycle starts again to deplete it. It's pretty simple really. The rest is picking the right clean foods and staying disciplined.

I think many have a similar approach, that’s why we consume carbs around training window when carbs are low in the diet. Fuel muscles for training then ride that low carb, through the rest of the day burning calories from fat stores. Depends how far into the cut you are meaning how lean or fat what determines macronutrients needed to lose weight.

 

[StadaCody]

Pretty much the title. When do you eat most of the fat when cutting or is it evenly spead out through the day? Atm I consume 0-5g the first 3-4hours of waking up so pretty much nothing. Then about half of the days limit in another 3-4hours but not any two hours before training. And the remaining for dinner/after workout. Made me think if it would be better to consume more in the morning..

Low carb days, cashews, avocado and pb

 

[Shine it]

When you're cutting, eating healthy fats is still important, even though the goal is to reduce overall calories. Try to include small amounts of fat with each meal, like adding avocado, nuts, olive oil, or a little peanut butter.
Eating fats helps keep you feeling full longer, which can make it easier to stick to your calorie goals. Plus, fats support hormone balance, which is essential when you're working hard to lose weight.

Just remember to keep portions in check because fats are higher in calories, but don't cut them out completely they’re an important part of a balanced diet, even when you’re trying to get leaner.

 

[Meetketchup]

When you're cutting, eating healthy fats is still important, even though the goal is to reduce overall calories. Try to include small amounts of fat with each meal, like adding avocado, nuts, olive oil, or a little peanut butter.
Eating fats helps keep you feeling full longer, which can make it easier to stick to your calorie goals. Plus, fats support hormone balance, which is essential when you're working hard to lose weight.

Just remember to keep portions in check because fats are higher in calories, but don't cut them out completely they’re an important part of a balanced diet, even when you’re trying to get leaner.

Agree with most of this, but it's more advantageous to limit or exclude fats around training, so I disagree with the every meal recommendation. Also, if you are enhanced, which most of us are, there isn't much need for hormonal support. JMO.

 

[JJB1]

I avoid dietary fat when cutting:
Protein: Chicken breast, 99/1 extra lean ground turkey breast, egg whites, whey protein.
Carbs: Steamed rice, oats.