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heavyiron said:
You think it will be the feast of trumpets?

So, are you pretrib/premillennial?
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Yes, Israel gathered on feast of Trumpets, and 2nd coming Day of Atonement.
Then wedding feast of the lamb obviously on Sukkot, then the Last great day starts the millennial reign. That 1 day is the last 1,000 years of this time domain.
Whatever that is, then that what I am, lol. Not a dispensationalist/ replacement theology... I believe in covenant theology. We'll go through the great tribulation first, the wrath will happen after we're gathered.
 
Curlieque said:
Yes, Israel gathered on feast of Trumpets, and 2nd coming Day of Atonement.
Then wedding feast of the lamb obviously on Sukkot, then the Last great day starts the millennial reign. That 1 day is the last 1,000 years of this time domain.
Whatever that is, then that what I am, lol. Not a dispensationalist/ replacement theology... I believe in covenant theology. We'll go through the great tribulation first, the wrath will happen after we're gathered.
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Ah ok, so you think Christ will return on the day of atonement? I'm genuinely trying to figure out your eschatology, I'm not judging it.

Do you think the tribulation has begun or is about to begin?
 
heavyiron said:
Ah ok, so you think Christ will return on the day of atonement? I'm genuinely trying to figure out your eschatology, I'm not judging it.

Do you think the tribulation has begun or is about to begin?
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It's all good, we' re all here to share and learn.
We're getting close to 2 days/ 2,000 years after Messiah ascended. So the tribulation is close, it'll probably start around a spring feast because that will be roughly 1260 days to feast of Trumpets. We'll know we're in the tribulation, it's gging to get pretty rough, and wild, for us here living on earth.
I believe that everything happens, and will happen on a feast day. Jesus/ Yeshua fulfilled the spring feasts. He died as the Passover lamb, which passover starts feast of unleavened bread. He rose on first fruits. His 'messenger' the holy spirit came down on the 70 nations( the northern tribes) during shavuot/ pentacost.

That's the pattern we have, the spring feasts being fulfilled in succession in the same year, so that's assumed what will happen in the future, with much scripture to back it up.
 
Curlieque said:
It's all good, we' re all here to share and learn.
We're getting close to 2 days/ 2,000 years after Messiah ascended. So the tribulation is close, it'll probably start around a spring feast because that will be roughly 1260 days to feast of Trumpets. We'll know we're in the tribulation, it's gging to get pretty rough, and wild, for us here living on earth.
I believe that everything happens, and will happen on a feast day. Jesus/ Yeshua fulfilled the spring feasts. He died as the Passover lamb, which passover starts feast of unleavened bread. He rose on first fruits. His 'messenger' the holy spirit came down on the 70 nations( the northern tribes) during shavuot/ pentacost.

That's the pattern we have, the spring feasts being fulfilled in succession in the same year, so that's assumed what will happen in the future, with much scripture to back it up.
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Ok, I see where you are coming from.

I think the 2 day theory is intriguing and fits with the 6 days of work and the 1 day of rest. Christ crucified on day 4. If its true we are very close. The only area I diverge is I believe the tribulation is the time of Jacobs trouble ie for unbelieving Israel to bring them to Yeshua. I think the feast days being fulfilled in order makes sense too. So I see us taken and then the tribulation beginning. Either way its crunch time.
 
It’s definitely crunch time! We have to always be ready and try our best to live the way Jesus intended us to live. Though we all fall short we must fight the good fight everyday. For our battle is not physical but of spiritual. Stay strong my brothers!


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This Sets the Stage for Gog of Magog (Ezekiel 38 & 39)...​

 
"Explains four elements that make up a "kingdom" and how all four components must be present for a kingdom reign to occur. This has implications for understanding the kingdom of Jesus".

 
Is your wife a gift from God?

Proverbs 18:22
He who finds a wife finds a good thing
And obtains favor and approval from the Lord.

Genesis 2:21-23
21;So the LordGod caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam; and while he slept, He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. And the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man He made (fashioned, formed) into a woman, and He brought her and presented her to the man. 23 Then Adam said,

“This is now bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”
 
heavyiron said:
Ok, I see where you are coming from.

I think the 2 day theory is intriguing and fits with the 6 days of work and the 1 day of rest. Christ crucified on day 4. If its true we are very close. The only area I diverge is I believe the tribulation is the time of Jacobs trouble ie for unbelieving Israel to bring them to Yeshua. I think the feast days being fulfilled in order makes sense too. So I see us taken and then the tribulation beginning. Either way its crunch time.
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If you speaking of the rapture I think you have to be blood of one of the 12 tribes to be raptured. Otherwise you have to go through the tribulation and probably lose your head when you refuse the mark. Either that or martyred in another way or die among the tribulation outpours.
 
Milford King said:
Some days.. well, most days…

But there are some days I think the “other guy” is calling the shots in her head. Like, 🦇 💩 psycho …
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I know you already know this so this is for the husband who doesn’t know what to do 💪
Ephesians 5:25-26
25Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
 
HFO3 said:
I know you already know this so this is for the husband who doesn’t know what to do 💪
Ephesians 5:25-26
25Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
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I've come across this passage 3 times in the last week. Funny how things appear.
 
Glycomann said:
If you speaking of the rapture I think you have to be blood of one of the 12 tribes to be raptured. Otherwise you have to go through the tribulation and probably lose your head when you refuse the mark. Either that or martyred in another way or die among the tribulation outpours.
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Oh I believe strongly in a pretrib rapture for the body of Christ. I have literally spent years researching eschatology. If you want a simple book on the topic you might start here. Ten Potent Proofs For The Pretribulation Rapture.

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heavyiron said:
Oh I believe strongly in a pretrib rapture for the body of Christ. I have literally spent years researching eschatology. If you want a simple book on the topic you might start here. Ten Potent Proofs For The Pretribulation Rapture.

LINK -
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I think we have to go through the Tribulation if not of the 12 tribes. see King James 7. Maybe Apostle Paul had stated different among his letters. I am no Biblical scholar so it will always be difficult for me to sift the wheat from the chaff.
 
If you truly believe that Jesus is the son of God and that he died on the cross and then rose again after 3 days . And you proclaim him to be your lord and savior then you will be saved. If the tomb is empty anything is possible!!!!


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Glycomann said:
I think we have to go through the Tribulation if not of the 12 tribes. see King James 7. Maybe Apostle Paul had stated different among his letters. I am no Biblical scholar so it will always be difficult for me to sift the wheat from the chaff.
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The assembly/ the church/ ecclesia refers to the nation of Israel- the 12 tribes/ Gods chosen people who will go through the ( great) tribulation. It's especially for those people for growing/ maturing as we do in this life. If you don't go through tribulation, you don't grow, you dont have any useful life skills to teach anyone. If you stayed in a cabin in the middle of no where your whole life, what good are you to others? How do you show love? Do you even know what love is? And why would Messiah want to marry someone who doesn't show love. We can be grafted into Israel, if we're not from one of the 12 tribes, just as the sojourner was- Gods people who he has covenant with. The bride is going to be a lot smaller than what a lot of believers/ Christians think. Messiah doesn't want a child bride, he wants someone that loves, helps, and is constantly trying to learn about their groom.
The temple in the millennial reign has 12 gates with the name of each tribe written on them. There's no baptist gate, no catholic gate, no muslim gate, no protestant gate, no gentile gate etc. Jesus even tells us he's only come to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel- Matt 15:24
This is my belief- per God's Word, not man's tradition.
There will be a great falling away because billions of people believe they will be raptured away into heaven before tribulation, so once that doesn't happen, because that's what they were taught, their faith will be shaken.
It's going to get a little crazy here before the end of this age folks! If your faith isn't solid, and you don't truly know your Messiah, it will be shaken.

Heres great series to watch on the end times on YouTube. The Donkey Speaks- Bitter and Sweet.
 
Curlieque said:
The assembly/ the church/ ecclesia refers to the nation of Israel- the 12 tribes/ Gods chosen people who will go through the ( great) tribulation. It's especially for those people for growing/ maturing as we do in this life. If you don't go through tribulation, you don't grow, you dont have any useful life skills to teach anyone. If you stayed in a cabin in the middle of no where your whole life, what good are you to others? How do you show love? Do you even know what love is? And why would Messiah want to marry someone who doesn't show love. We can be grafted into Israel, if we're not from one of the 12 tribes, just as the sojourner was- Gods people who he has covenant with. The bride is going to be a lot smaller than what a lot of believers/ Christians think. Messiah doesn't want a child bride, he wants someone that loves, helps, and is constantly trying to learn about their groom.
The temple in the millennial reign has 12 gates with the name of each tribe written on them. There's no baptist gate, no catholic gate, no muslim gate, no protestant gate, no gentile gate etc. Jesus even tells us he's only come to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel- Matt 15:24
This is my belief- per God's Word, not man's tradition.
There will be a great falling away because billions of people believe they will be raptured away into heaven before tribulation, so once that doesn't happen, because that's what they were taught, their faith will be shaken.
It's going to get a little crazy here before the end of this age folks! If your faith isn't solid, and you don't truly know your Messiah, it will be shaken.

Heres great series to watch on the end times on YouTube. The Donkey Speaks- Bitter and Sweet.
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Well said….


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Curlieque said:
The assembly/ the church/ ecclesia refers to the nation of Israel- the 12 tribes/ Gods chosen people who will go through the ( great) tribulation. It's especially for those people for growing/ maturing as we do in this life. If you don't go through tribulation, you don't grow, you dont have any useful life skills to teach anyone. If you stayed in a cabin in the middle of no where your whole life, what good are you to others? How do you show love? Do you even know what love is? And why would Messiah want to marry someone who doesn't show love. We can be grafted into Israel, if we're not from one of the 12 tribes, just as the sojourner was- Gods people who he has covenant with. The bride is going to be a lot smaller than what a lot of believers/ Christians think. Messiah doesn't want a child bride, he wants someone that loves, helps, and is constantly trying to learn about their groom.
The temple in the millennial reign has 12 gates with the name of each tribe written on them. There's no baptist gate, no catholic gate, no muslim gate, no protestant gate, no gentile gate etc. Jesus even tells us he's only come to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel- Matt 15:24
This is my belief- per God's Word, not man's tradition.
There will be a great falling away because billions of people believe they will be raptured away into heaven before tribulation, so once that doesn't happen, because that's what they were taught, their faith will be shaken.
It's going to get a little crazy here before the end of this age folks! If your faith isn't solid, and you don't truly know your Messiah, it will be shaken.

Heres great series to watch on the end times on YouTube. The Donkey Speaks- Bitter and Sweet.
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Then the12 tribes of Israel only will have matured enough to survive Tribulation? Then Apostle Paul wasted his time with gentiles?
 
Roman's 2:29

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
 
Glycomann said:
Then the12 tribes of Israel only will have matured enough to survive Tribulation? Then Apostle Paul wasted his time with gentiles?
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No, there will be Israel and the nations( gentiles) that all survive the tribulation, though a big portion of the world population will be gone. Once Israel is gathered up on ( most likely) feast of Trumpets, there will be 10 days of wrath for the nations who rejected Him.

Paul did not waste his time with believers and those once gentiles( of the (pagan) nations). Paul equipped brothers to worship in spirit and truth, which he got after his Damascus road experience. I think a lot of people don't understand what Paul was actually teaching as even Peter said he was hard to understand.
 
Glycomann said:
I think we have to go through the Tribulation if not of the 12 tribes. see King James 7. Maybe Apostle Paul had stated different among his letters. I am no Biblical scholar so it will always be difficult for me to sift the wheat from the chaff.
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James 7? There is no such reference. Did you mean something else?
 
heavyiron said:
James 7? There is no such reference. Did you mean something else?
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I don't think I know how to elaborate properly what I want to say so if you can, please expound.

I don't believe we'll be here. Sodom and Gomorrah, then Noah being examples of God removing His people from the coming trouble.
 
Curlieque said:
The assembly/ the church/ ecclesia refers to the nation of Israel- the 12 tribes/ Gods chosen people who will go through the ( great) tribulation. It's especially for those people for growing/ maturing as we do in this life. If you don't go through tribulation, you don't grow, you dont have any useful life skills to teach anyone. If you stayed in a cabin in the middle of no where your whole life, what good are you to others? How do you show love? Do you even know what love is? And why would Messiah want to marry someone who doesn't show love. We can be grafted into Israel, if we're not from one of the 12 tribes, just as the sojourner was- Gods people who he has covenant with. The bride is going to be a lot smaller than what a lot of believers/ Christians think. Messiah doesn't want a child bride, he wants someone that loves, helps, and is constantly trying to learn about their groom.
The temple in the millennial reign has 12 gates with the name of each tribe written on them. There's no baptist gate, no catholic gate, no muslim gate, no protestant gate, no gentile gate etc. Jesus even tells us he's only come to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel- Matt 15:24
This is my belief- per God's Word, not man's tradition.
There will be a great falling away because billions of people believe they will be raptured away into heaven before tribulation, so once that doesn't happen, because that's what they were taught, their faith will be shaken.
It's going to get a little crazy here before the end of this age folks! If your faith isn't solid, and you don't truly know your Messiah, it will be shaken.

Heres great series to watch on the end times on YouTube. The Donkey Speaks- Bitter and Sweet.
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I don't agree. Your supposition negates Paul's ministry completely.
 
OlePhart said:
I don't think I know how to elaborate properly what I want to say so if you can, please expound.

I don't believe we'll be here. Sodom and Gomorrah, then Noah being examples of God removing His people from the coming trouble.
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What is your question exactly?
 
Curlieque said:
No, there will be Israel and the nations( gentiles) that all survive the tribulation, though a big portion of the world population will be gone. Once Israel is gathered up on ( most likely) feast of Trumpets, there will be 10 days of wrath for the nations who rejected Him.

Paul did not waste his time with believers and those once gentiles( of the (pagan) nations). Paul equipped brothers to worship in spirit and truth, which he got after his Damascus road experience. I think a lot of people don't understand what Paul was actually teaching as even Peter said he was hard to understand.
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I was just reading about this in Daniel 12. Looks like Michael returns. It mentions something like 1200 days and then something like 1300 days, and it says those are blessed to reach the 1300 (ish) I am not saying these are the precise numbers bc they are not, but its close. I dont have time atm to look but will later :)
 

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