Difference Between EQ and Deca?

[iPyromaniacc42]

Title says it
I want to to take Deca but I heard EQ was better due to Deca D*** and on EQ i dont have to worry about that

i want to know more about the differences of these any advice helps

 

[Matt88]

They are completely different compounds and imo this is like comparing apples to oranges. If this is your first cycle then you should seriously consider doing a testosterone only cycle first. There is a lot of differences. Use the search function here and you will find tons of threads on these 2 compounds. If you have specific questions once you do some research then come back and ask but you need to gain some base knowledge on these compounds before you make the decision to put them in your body This is not bc I don`t want to help you btw. You just need to gain some base knowledge and there is a wealth of information here.

Other names of these compounds to help you when you do the searching.

EQ=Boldenone
EQ=Equipoise
EQ=Bold

Deca=Nandrolone
Deca=Nandrolone Deaconate

Here`s a couple threads to get you started.

Hold your horses and Behold, the BOLD! NEW 15mL vials or (10mL vials) 2024

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Nandrolone decanoate long ester most efficient for muscle growth

Nandrolone decanoate long ester is most efficient for muscle growth over NPP - STUDY INCLUDED - btw who uses Nandrolone in their TRT? Nandrolone decanoate "long ester" is most efficient for muscle growth over NPP Nandrolone at its most efficient Chemical athletes who want to use nandrolone to...

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[BlackRain]

Testosterone Derivatives:
Equipoise (Boldenone)
Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)
Halotestin (Fluoxymesterone)
Turinabol (Chlorodehydromethyl-
testosterone)

19-Nortestosterone Derivatives:
Trenbolone (Trienolone)
Trestolone (MENT)
Steranabol (Oxabolone)
Mibolerone (Cheque Drops)
Metribolone (Methyltrienolone)

They aren't even remotely close to the same. They are diffrent in every way.

 

[391007]

Title says it
I want to to take Deca but I heard EQ was better due to Deca D*** and on EQ i dont have to worry about that

i want to know more about the differences of these any advice helps

No Offense but everyone here had to study’s these drugs and the effects on the body and what to do with the side effects.

Study you have the internet. I had to read a book which I forgot the name of. Came out 1994-1996. Listed a lot of information.

The internet wasn’t like it is today.

Just type different steroids into google and learn about them.

Then you can learn how to treat or prevent side effect's.

 

[iPyromaniacc42]

They are completely different compounds and imo this is like comparing apples to oranges. If this is your first cycle then you should seriously consider doing a testosterone only cycle first. There is a lot of differences. Use the search function here and you will find tons of threads on these 2 compounds. If you have specific questions once you do some research then come back and ask but you need to gain some base knowledge on these compounds before you make the decision to put them in your body This is not bc I don`t want to help you btw. You just need to gain some base knowledge and there is a wealth of information here.

Other names of these compounds to help you when you do the searching.

EQ=Boldenone
EQ=Equipoise
EQ=Bold

Deca=Nandrolone
Deca=Nandrolone Deaconate

Here`s a couple threads to get you started.

Hold your horses and Behold, the BOLD! NEW 15mL vials or (10mL vials) 2024

Hold your horses and Behold, the BOLD! NEW 15mL vials or (10mL vials) 🐎Hold your horses and Behold, the BOLD!🐎 Available in the all NEW 15mL 200mg/mL vials or 250mg /mL10mL vials From an other poster... So lets talk about this and hear everyone feeds back. Blue is his questions, and red is my...

www.anabolicsteroidforums.com

Nandrolone decanoate long ester most efficient for muscle growth

Nandrolone decanoate long ester is most efficient for muscle growth over NPP - STUDY INCLUDED - btw who uses Nandrolone in their TRT? Nandrolone decanoate "long ester" is most efficient for muscle growth over NPP Nandrolone at its most efficient Chemical athletes who want to use nandrolone to...

www.anabolicsteroidforums.com

Thank you and yes it's my first cycle so I might stick with just Test for now. I want to bulk but I also don't want to rush the process.

 

[Wiseguy]

Thank you and yes it's my first cycle so I might stick with just Test for now. I want to bulk but I also don't want to rush the process.

Yes first cycle start with test only 300mg per week. Do some blood work, and study, time on =time off plan your next cycle and goals and move forward

How I plan a cycle

Hi Brothers, Lately I’ve been reading a lot about first cycles or next cycles with little or no information about the poster. Typically if it’s a new member they are asking for recommendations. Well it’s tough to recommend a cycle not knowing a thing about the poster. Experience, health issues...

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[iPyromaniacc42]

Yes first cycle start with test only 300mg per week. Do some blood work, and study, time on =time off plan your next cycle and goals and move forward

How I plan a cycle

Hi Brothers, Lately I’ve been reading a lot about first cycles or next cycles with little or no information about the poster. Typically if it’s a new member they are asking for recommendations. Well it’s tough to recommend a cycle not knowing a thing about the poster. Experience, health issues...

www.anabolicsteroidforums.com

This is what I was thinking for a first cycle advice is always welcome
Test E
400mg weekly for 10 weeks. 12.5mg aromasin EOD. 2 weeks after last injection start PCT:

• Clomid 100mg daily for 2 weeks and 50mg daily for another 2 weeks.
• Tamoxifen 40mg daily for 2 weeks and 20mg daily for another 2 weeks

 

[Wiseguy]

This is what I was thinking for a first cycle advice is always welcome
Test E
400mg weekly for 10 weeks. 12.5mg aromasin EOD. 2 weeks after last injection start PCT:

• Clomid 100mg daily for 2 weeks and 50mg daily for another 2 weeks.
• Tamoxifen 40mg daily for 2 weeks and 20mg daily for another 2 weeks

IMO you don’t need Clomid. Also I never recommend AI’s unless your blood work reveals your Estrogen is through the roof. Without experience you will pay dearly if you crash your estrogen. Keep it simple.

 

[iPyromaniacc42]

IMO you don’t need Clomid. Also I never recommend AI’s unless your blood work reveals your Estrogen is through the roof. Without experience you will pay dearly if you crash your estrogen. Keep it simple.

So eliminate the AI and clomid and just take the Tamoxifen for a pct

 

[Nobodyishere]

Testosterone Derivatives:
Equipoise (Boldenone)
Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)
Halotestin (Fluoxymesterone)
Turinabol (Chlorodehydromethyl-
testosterone)

19-Nortestosterone Derivatives:
Trenbolone (Trienolone)
Trestolone (MENT)
Steranabol (Oxabolone)
Mibolerone (Cheque Drops)
Metribolone (Methyltrienolone)

Give me test or give me death

 

[Wiseguy]

I would and AI only if your blood work says you need it. Remember estrogen helps you grow so why would you kill it unless it’s excessive

 

[Matt88]

I agree completely with wiseguy.

Read this and educate your self on the benefits of estrogen. Like Wiseguy said it helps you grow so you don't want to nuke it. It's involved in IGF-1 synthesis.

Estrogen 101 for men: AI`s, SERMs, DHT Derivatives, Low/High symptoms, etc

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[BBruce]

Clomid gets a bad rep but I love it. I think the main reason is because ppl overdose on Clomid (thinking more is better) and that’s when sides start. It’s no reason to go over 50mg ed (100mg is insanity) and staying at 25mg ed is the best.

If I was going to PCT I would use Clomid at 25mg for 6-8 weeks.

*I went from zero sperm/Test to making babies with Clomid at 25mg for 8 weeks and my Test was in the 900’s in the end, felt great the whole time.

 

[LickMyTATE]

Please listen to the amazing advice already given... Test only and no AIs unless blood work/sides dictate it.

You will MASSIVELY regret running multiple compounds on first cycle.

There is only so many compounds that you can use, and you will be upset with yourself down the line for not taking it slow, it is something I fucked up on myself...

Now every run has to be more gear and more compound cocktails, every cycle you will add something to "feel it"... start slow as the inevitable mixing will come later on.... Learn how your body reacts and feels first.

Good luck!!!!!!!!!!

 

[iPyromaniacc42]

Please listen to the amazing advice already given... Test only and no AIs unless blood work/sides dictate it.

You will MASSIVELY regret running multiple compounds on first cycle.

There is only so many compounds that you can use, and you will be upset with yourself down the line for not taking it slow, it is something I fucked up on myself...

Now every run has to be more gear and more compound cocktails, every cycle you will add something to "feel it"... start slow as the inevitable mixing will come later on.... Learn how your body reacts and feels first.

Good luck!!!!!!!!!!

And I will take everyone's advice and just start with
Test E 400mg/week and PCT

• Tamoxifen 40mg daily for 2 weeks and 20mg daily for another 2 weeks

 

[391007]

This is what I was thinking for a first cycle advice is always welcome
Test E
400mg weekly for 10 weeks. 12.5mg aromasin EOD. 2 weeks after last injection start PCT:

• Clomid 100mg daily for 2 weeks and 50mg daily for another 2 weeks.
• Tamoxifen 40mg daily for 2 weeks and 20mg daily for another 2 weeks

Careful with arimedex. Don’t crash your estrogen. I would just use the receptor blocker until the blood work show the ratio is off with estrogen.

If you need to jump start your body I would use HCG over Clomid.

 

[BBruce]

Careful with arimedex. Don’t crash your estrogen. I would just use the receptor blocker until the blood work show the ratio is off with estrogen.

If you need to jump start your body I would use HCG over Clomid.

 

[BBruce]

And I will take everyone's advice and just start with
Test E 400mg/week and PCT

• Tamoxifen 40mg daily for 2 weeks and 20mg daily for another 2 weeks

Why only 2 weeks on each? I would do at least 4 weeks of one instead of 2 weeks of each.

 

[Fletcher]

This is what I was thinking for a first cycle advice is always welcome
Test E
400mg weekly for 10 weeks. 12.5mg aromasin EOD. 2 weeks after last injection start PCT:

• Clomid 100mg daily for 2 weeks and 50mg daily for another 2 weeks.
• Tamoxifen 40mg daily for 2 weeks and 20mg daily for another 2 weeks

My suggestion
Same cycle, 12 weeks.
"PCT" is shit. Stay off Reddit.

 

[iPyromaniacc42]

My suggestion
Same cycle, 12 weeks.
"PCT" is shit. Stay off Reddit.

what would you recommend then?

 

[Fletcher]

what would you recommend then?

Come off.
The faster your levels drop, the faster your natty production will recover.
Clomid, hcg, nolva, all that shit does is cause more chaos in your endocrone system.

 

[Vision]

Title says it
I want to to take Deca but I heard EQ was better due to Deca D*** and on EQ i dont have to worry about that

i want to know more about the differences of these any advice helps

Nandrolone is included in the class II of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) which is composed of 19-nor-testosterone-derivates. Nandrolone is in the progestin group.

Bold is in fact more closely related to dbol because that is what it is derived from and it does not have any progestogenic properties.

 

[iPyromaniacc42]

Come off.
The faster your levels drop, the faster your natty production will recover.
Clomid, hcg, nolva, all that shit does is cause more chaos in your endocrone system.

I will do this
rn I'm on 400mg of Test E no side effects and liking it

 

[Jimmy7]

i know blood work is important for AI's but you have to know your own body. if you go from feeling great, to suddenly, your nipples are soar, youre holding water and get deep sock elastics around your shins , youre lethargic and have irregular heart rate for instance, you dont need blood work to tell you 4 days later what you already know now... your E2 is too high. waiting for the results will worsen symptoms and cause more grief. know your body man, otherwise you'll get your results back, know the obvious, take arimidex, feel better, then you do another blood test to tell you you feel ok, which you already know by feel. get any symptoms to a nice level of normality, then do bloods and work from there with fine adjustments. self awareness and common sense go along way. unless... youre on rich pianas cycle then id get your blood work done every 33 minutes!!

 

[Castaway]

Title says it
I want to to take Deca but I heard EQ was better due to Deca D*** and on EQ i dont have to worry about that

i want to know more about the differences of these any advice helps

IMO Deca produces more sides due to the fact that
hey both aromatize at about half the rate of testosterone, but deca attaches to progesterone receptors pretty fast but EQ aromatizes into estrogen at a slower conversion rate.
Deca based on my experiences tends have more water retention and gives me more stamina problems while EQ doesn't seem to effect me like this. On an even more personal note,...I will never use Deca again...EQ either for that matter. NPP is my preferred 19-nor (or nandrolone) however you classify AAS in your mind. Just my 2 cent pre work thoughts.

 

[Wiseguy]

No Offense but everyone here had to study’s these drugs and the effects on the body and what to do with the side effects.

Study you have the internet. I had to read a book which I forgot the name of. Came out 1994-1996. Listed a lot of information.

The internet wasn’t like it is today.

Just type different steroids into google and learn about them.

Then you can learn how to treat or prevent side effect's.

Anabolic Steroids Bible by Dan Duchane.

Now with that said we are not taking candy here. What is the purpose of you taking these drugs? What is the goal? They all have different purpose. You just don't decide I don't want to take tren because of tren cough and I want to take Masteron instead.

Figure out what your goal is. Where you are currently. Make sure diet and workout and rest is in line with your goal, study different compounds and what they can produce the sides and the cycles and make a smart decision and go for it.

We don't know anything about you and you are asking advise which compound you should take?

Good luck bro.

 

[Castaway]

No Offense but everyone here had to study’s these drugs and the effects on the body and what to do with the side effects.

Study you have the internet. I had to read a book which I forgot the name of. Came out 1994-1996. Listed a lot of information.

The internet wasn’t like it is today.

Just type different steroids into google and learn about them.

Then you can learn how to treat or prevent side effect's.

Good point!! I just tried different AAS' out and over the years you learn what you like, what doesn't agree with you.
When it comes to new AAS users RESEARCH REALLY IS THE KEY.
If you don't research then experiment you take most the fun out of cycling gear (IMO).

 

[391007]

Anabolic Steroids Bible by Dan Duchane.

Now with that said we are not taking candy here. What is the purpose of you taking these drugs? What is the goal? They all have different purpose. You just don't decide I don't want to take tren because of tren cough and I want to take Masteron instead.

Figure out what your goal is. Where you are currently. Make sure diet and workout and rest is in line with your goal, study different compounds and what they can produce the sides and the cycles and make a smart decision and go for it.

We don't know anything about you and you are asking advise which compound you should take?

Good luck bro.

Why do woman get breast jobs ?

 

[Wiseguy]

Why do woman get breast jobs ?

What kind of question is that? lol

 

[23andrew23]

Come off.
The faster your levels drop, the faster your natty production will recover.
Clomid, hcg, nolva, all that shit does is cause more chaos in your endocrone system.

YES!! …pct is Shit!…”

Damn I thought I was the human on this planet that thought this too!

I’m 46yrs now, and my 1st cycle was at the age of 17. Been cycling on and off since then.

Never have I taken PCT. Especially if someone is thinking of getting back on a few months later (example: 3months ON…2 or 3 months OFF and then back ON again (like myself), then PCT doesn’t make sense and like fletcher said, will only add chaos in your system.

If using long ester compounds, like EQ, or long acting Test can take many weeks OR MANY MONTHS before it fully clears your system (person dependent, depending on how quickly your body metabolizes the compounds) and if you plan on, jumping back onto another cycle down the road, or even a few months later, then there’s no point in using a PCT because the previous cycle has not yet fully cleared your system.