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Stenbolone vs Primo vs EQ vs NPP vs Tren - which do you prefer and why? How about DHB?

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Of these compounds what pairs best for you and which ones do you substitute for the other? - Stenbolone vs Primo vs EQ vs NPP vs Tren - which do you prefer and why?
How about DHB? Who uses that in place of an other drug that they may dislike?

Some guys like to use (Anatrofin) Stenbolone Acetate over Primo, and at times using it to replace Tren and its harshness.. Same with EQ, do you use it, and and choose it over what other drug?

These are completely different agents above, way different drugs with almost entirely different functions, some being mild and the others being aggressive, one being weak an other being strong .. it's like comparing apples and oranges..

However, some people swear by EQ over Tren, and some use stenbolone over tren or primo, the list goes on... on the same token other stress that nothing transforms their body like Tren....
Of course because none of the drugs above can hold a candle to tren... It's all about goals and personal preferences..

Some people advocate that one compound gets them more vascular than the other, not realizing that it comes down to genetics, and being blessed with a great mapping system with veins, and the compound is just complimenting...
Some get more oily, loss of hunger, sweating to much, sleep loss, the list goes on.. This can happen by way of many different things, we all respond differently..

Of the compounds what do you favor and why? Less side effects? Cost effectiveness? Good responder? Better transformation? Better gains? better pumps? Appetite assistance?

Where do you stand...
 
HughJassol said:
I don't think they are even in the same ball park. Tren
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They are not it's like comparing apples and oranges but some people will use bold,or even NPP when tren seems to be a but much for them...

I'm a tren guy myself... I think bold serves its purpose, but it no longer fits into any of my protocols...
 
I've used tren a bunch of times. I have low bf and respond well to it. I will be using EQ for my first time ever next month. Bot sure what to expect personally. I will be adding deca and npp with it. Excited to se how it goes
 
I tried both each one wigged me out anxiety wise . But the 8 weeks I ran the tren it changed my body dramatically. I like npp to me it's like trens little brother with out the sides. I was really high body fat when I tried eq so not much results. Tren on the other hand dramatic changes

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Is NPP an option? Lol. I've never really ran EQ. Granted I think A Test/NPP/EQ cycle might be next for me. Think I'm going to take a long break from tren. I feel like it thrashes my body too much.
 
Thats a tough one, I use them for different goals typically, tren for cut/recomps and eq for bulks. But I have cut on eq (well it was bold cyp) and it really did produce a nice basically tren like finish, I was vascualar as hell, dry, hard and dense looking, and unlike tren which can flatten me out when I get really lean I was still very full. At the end of that cycle I dont think I ever looked better. I also added anadrol for 2 weeks to really fill me out and it pulled all the water into my muscles instead of the bloated subq look drol can produce if you use it when bulking and bf is higher. But it was a harder cut, eq doesnt change you on a daily basis like tren does, i had to work alot harder to pull off that look compared to if i was running tren. So if I had to pick one or the other it would be easy, tren, as I only use it to cut, and eq is not my go to compound for bulks, im a npp fan or deca, so not running eq again wouldnt really phase me. I like it, its nice to run for bulking when youre starting off nice and dry and lean and want to keep that look as much as possible when bulking, eq will keep that dry dense vascular look, no bloat and shit like with nandrolone. eq/bold cyp at like 750mgs with 500mgs of test and a tbol kicker is my favorite bulking cycle if im starting nice and lean and want to keep that look while slowly adding quality muscle.
thats the great thing about eq, what you gain you get to keep the muscle really sticks for some reason compared to nandrolone and im not talkig about the inital water drop when coming off nandrolone, even during the following months if i slip up on my diet for even small periods of time Ill drop a few pounds super easy, but with an eq cycle like i laid out above i come off and drop nothing initally, and if i dont keep my cals up for a week or two i wont drop any weight. Its weird, but thats how I respond to boldenone.
 
I like the feedback here and I pretty much stand on the same position as you guys.....

Npp, can surely be an option here because I did mention it in the post.... it's definitely another alternative...

I just wish I responded to EQ like a lot of people do, but it's just one of those compounds that's not for me.... but on a different note I respond amazing to Dianabol,and EQ was intended to be the injectable version of that, a matter of fact they share a lot of similar characteristics, at the end of the day, EQ doesn't do shit for me unless I run high doses, and at that point it's no longer cost-effective...
 
I liked them stacked. TrenE 400 with EQ 750. Very lean gains quickly. Broke 200 pounds for the first time ever on that stack.
 
Vision said:
I like the feedback here and I pretty much stand on the same position as you guys.....

Npp, can surely be an option here because I did mention it in the post.... it's definitely another alternative...

I just wish I responded to EQ like a lot of people do, but it's just one of those compounds that's not for me.... but on a different note I respond amazing to Dianabol,and EQ was intended to be the injectable version of that, a matter of fact they share a lot of similar characteristics, at the end of the day, EQ doesn't do shit for me unless I run high doses, and at that point it's no longer cost-effective...
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What would you consider high doses? I'm still up in the air about where I'm starting at. I was thinking 600mg. But with such a long Ester it wouldn't be till farther down the line that I realized that it wasn't enough.
 
sixsix250 said:
What would you consider high doses? I'm still up in the air about where I'm starting at. I was thinking 600mg. But with such a long Ester it wouldn't be till farther down the line that I realized that it wasn't enough.
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Pmed you
 
sixsix250 said:
What would you consider high doses? I'm still up in the air about where I'm starting at. I was thinking 600mg. But with such a long Ester it wouldn't be till farther down the line that I realized that it wasn't enough.
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800mgs+ is on the higher end of me... now don't get me wrong it does serve its purpose,but when someone gets transformed from tren, I just don't see how anyone can go back...

Now when I add tbol with tren, it really makes the muscle belly remain full even during a caloric-def....
 
Vision said:
800mgs+ is on the higher end of me... now don't get me wrong it does serve its purpose,but when someone gets transformed from tren, I just don't see how anyone can go back...

Now when I add tbol with tren, it really makes the muscle belly remain full even during a caloric-def....
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My last run was tren and Tbol. Loved it. the tren is hard on the body for me but nothing matches what it does. This run is a bulker and I'll be using npp deca test and dbol with EQ. I've ran the same cycle before without the EQ several times. I'm excited to see how my body reacts to it. I know some people swear by it and others don't. Guess we will see lol
 
sixsix250 said:
My last run was tren and Tbol. Loved it. the tren is hard on the body for me but nothing matches what it does. This run is a bulker and I'll be using npp deca test and dbol with EQ. I've ran the same cycle before without the EQ several times. I'm excited to see how my body reacts to it. I know some people swear by it and others don't. Guess we will see lol
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I swear tbol is so underrated.... it can be so complimentary...the combo eq,tbol is absolutely fantastic.... definitely keep everybody posted on how you make out
 
Funny,, that this thread came up... Strongest ever was 10 years ago on 300 EQ and 100 Tren -E... No test... Still trying to get back to that... Age is kicking my ass... I'm bulking for three months then trying the EQ/Tren run in March... See what happens!!! I'm a test/Deca guy... Tren is over rated to me but that's me...
 
bc123jm said:
exactly
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way back in one oof Dan Duchaines writings he made some type of relationship in there structure but recounted it not long after...i would take EQ over Tren....slow motor oil RBC's over immediate 300/250 hbp any day...
 
s2h said:
way back in one oof Dan Duchaines writings he made some type of relationship in there structure but recounted it not long after...i would take EQ over Tren....slow motor oil RBC's over immediate 300/250 hbp any day...
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i can only take tren suspension now days. way less sides. i use eq, but i'm still waiting to be impressed on it. i'm at a gram a week now.
i think its finally starting to hit, been 10 weeks or so. but last blood work few weeks ago rbc was pretty high. i need to get off my lazy ass and find the blood mobile
and donate some double red
 
Sust 750, Bold 750, Tren A 400, Mast 300 eod. Love the feel, making steady gains/shedding fat, incredible pumps. Tried something different here, happy with results.

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I did a run of 600mg test and 350mg of tren ace, and made some good gains. However, I had lots of sides and did not like the way I felt. My EQ cycle consisted of 600mg test, 350 mg deca, and 600omg EQ. I made great gains, and night sweats from the deca was my only side.

I am going to run this EQ cycle again in November with some tbol thrown in for the first four weeks. For my next summer cut I am thinking of running high tren, low test and mast. I am hoping to have little to no sides with this.
 
raedel said:
I did a run of 600mg test and 350mg of tren ace, and made some good gains. However, I had lots of sides and did not like the way I felt. My EQ cycle consisted of 600mg test, 350 mg deca, and 600omg EQ. I made great gains, and night sweats from the deca was my only side.

I am going to run this EQ cycle again in November with some tbol thrown in for the first four weeks. For my next summer cut I am thinking of running high tren, low test and mast. I am hoping to have little to no sides with this.
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Tren makes me act crazy, masteron takes care of thise, only side im left with is night sweats..

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Scooby said:
Tren makes me act crazy, masteron takes care of thise, only side im left with is night sweats..

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Try lowering your carbs brother, and try limiting almost all of them in the evening
 
I love EQ.!!! One of my favorite.!! My body responds super great to this compound. It does.not take as long as "they say" for me to start seeing results from EQ...it turns me into a ravenous shark.!! I start eating almost double atleast.!! and still stay lean...this shit packs on lean., hard., very dense QUALITY muscle for me anyways...and it sticks even while cruising...I get super vascular as I'm pretty vascular year round so my vascularity just gets ridiculous sick., with some serious veins poppin out in my traps even...all muscles are just hard and jacked up solid feeling.!!! I had many of Tren runs before I started experimenting with EQ...I love that I can eat carbs at night and all day...no tren sweats...or trensomnia...i.don't sweat but with the AC on 65deg in the entire house my girl has mentioned quite a bit.."how are you covered up with a sheet...your body is so warm to the touch" even if I feel a little bit chilly ...now I have felt that warmth myself and got up to.check my temp as a precaution and it was a perfect 98.6 .... I also add Masteron to this stack so it does have something to say for of the results...but I swear I get as good if not better then Tren off TProp/EQ/Mast P or EN...I have mad vials of NPP sitting around in the stash box and haven't even needed to touch it. I'm beyond thrilled with the results of EQ.!!! I'm sure I left out a few things as I could ramble on about EQ... as for Tren...well...that's for a other discussion cuz after speaking with Vision this morning I may have found a new way I never heard of to help combat tren sweats and I think trensomnia as well...have to reread...but I'm definitely ready to toss some Tren back into my stack and see if I can mask or rid myself of almost all night sweats....so my choice between apples and oranges...definately goes APPLES=EQ
 
I hate the way tren makes me feel... agitated, sweaty, insomnia... strength is great, but I can get that from tren base. I don't get the sides besides a few hours of agitation, but my body doesn't change like an ace cycle.
Eq... only ran it once but it gave me horrible anxiety, I felt like I was going to have a heart attack. Better vascularity, but the worst strength gains of any AAS I've ever used... even though it allowed me to eat like an animal. I did get decent size from it, tren I think I gain a bit less mass but it cuts me up more.
I did run Boldenone ace (or Prop, can't remember) ...from an old top shelf lab, painful as fuck, I still have 20mL that I'm scared to pin. The pain was the only bad side, very similar to primo imo... maybe a bit more vascularity.

Honestly I'm not a fan of either. I have no plans to run either as a cycle anytime soon. Maybe some tren base if I do another powerlifting meet. I prefer Masteron. It makes me feel great, solid strength gains, good hardness, vascularity, everything. No real bad sides except mild acne. NPP is cool too.
 
Mark me down in the EQ camp. I'm not a huge guy, but always trying to gain more muscle and stay athletic at the same time. Tren kills that for me. EQ compliments it.

I could see once someone gets to a certain size and level of musculature where EQ doesn't do much other than add some vascularity though, unless you run the doses way up.
 
topic time
 
I have more experience with Deca and Tren.
None with NPP, none with Primobolan, and none with Stenbolone. I am wanting to use NPP and Sten in my next cycle. I have experience with Deca and will base NPP dosages off that. 75mgs Sten EOD seems to be the sweet spot for quite a few users. I will start at 50mgs EOD and assess from there.

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