YK-11 oral vs injectable

[Nood]

I agree, thats why Im off more than on, and when im on its not long. we still dont
know the long term effects. BUT the shit is total

Yeah I’m still gonna run it next year, maybe sooner depending on blood work in a week or 2

 

[WheyMoreTraps]

Yeah I’m still gonna run it next year, maybe sooner depending on blood work in a week or 2

We need a log for this. You’ll love it.

 

[Meetketchup]

Regardless of its efficacy. We don't know anything about how this works in the human body as there are literally almost no human trials and definitely no randomized control studies. Rodent trials are not enough IMO. All we have are anecdote from lifters, which is better than nothing but that's not enough for me. Bolan didn't see anything negative on blood work, which is great for him. I have seen a combo of the two. It does affect liver, cholesterol and the usual for most of the bloods I've seen over the last few years. Was supplied by "reputable" UGL's whatever that means. lol

If you want to take it, awesome! I'd rather take something with multiple decades of studied effects on the body myself that will give you the same if not better results. At least I know what I'm in for.

 

[BBruce]

Regardless of its efficacy. We don't know anything about how this works in the human body as there are literally almost no human trials and definitely no randomized control studies. Rodent trials are not enough IMO. All we have are anecdote from lifters, which is better than nothing but that's not enough for me. Bolan didn't see anything negative on blood work, which is great for him. I have seen a combo of the two. It does affect liver, cholesterol and the usual for most of the bloods I've seen over the last few years. Was supplied by "reputable" UGL's whatever that means. lol

If you want to take it, awesome! I'd rather take something with multiple decades of studied effects on the body myself that will give you the same if not better results. At least I know what I'm in for.

I agree with this

 

[Bustanut]

Any reason to use injectable YK over tren? Would they compliment each other if used together, or would the tren out compete YK for androgen receptor binding? I’m thinking perhaps the myostatin inhibition could be useful, but tren perhaps already does that?

 

[Bolan]

Any reason to use injectable YK over tren? Would they compliment each other if used together, or would the tren out compete YK for androgen receptor binding? I’m thinking perhaps the myostatin inhibition could be useful, but tren perhaps already does that?

My clients who turned Pro this year did it with YK. 0 Tren.
We'll save the Tren if they want to go further with their Pro status.
If you can find GOOD YK right now (its hard to find, the raws are $$$)
I say give it a go before jumping on the Tren train.
I friggin love the stuff... I bought up a bunch before TSHTF.
GymnTonic I believe is still waiting for their batch of YK to be made.
That would be my 1st stop

 

[Bustanut]

My clients who turned Pro this year did it with YK. 0 Tren.
We'll save the Tren if they want to go further with their Pro status.
If you can find GOOD YK right now (its hard to find, the raws are $$$)
I say give it a go before jumping on the Tren train.
I friggin love the stuff... I bought up a bunch before TSHTF.
GymnTonic I believe is still waiting for their batch of YK to be made.
That would be my 1st stop

Thank you. Already on the tren train and gains have stalled. Wondering if adding YK would help. Maybe stopping tren and replacing with YK would work. I have the shittiest genetics on Earth. :/

 

[Bolan]

Thank you. Already on the tren train and gains have stalled. Wondering if adding YK would help. Maybe stopping tren and replacing with YK would work. I have the shittiest genetics on Earth. :/

If your already on Tren and your stalled?
You need some clean food! High Protein, high Carbs w/Low GI.
Tren likes to be fed, if not you can go flat on a low carb diet
making you feel like the "gainz" have stopped.
How long on the Tren?
Ester? A,E, Hex? Don't say Base! lol .

 

[GYMnTONIC]

Tren has every side on earth for many.

Yk has none.

Theres no comparison.

Not to say tren isn't badass bc it is better then any steroid there is.. but Its also worse then any steroid there is

Name a.drug with worse sides then tren...

Maybe accutane or chemotherapy.. but that's it. Ok DNP. But those all can kill you. So we're not in a good place when we're comparing tren to chemo...point is both are toxic and can rarely be used minus serious side effects.

 

[xstah]

My clients who turned Pro this year did it with YK. 0 Tren.
We'll save the Tren if they want to go further with their Pro status.
If you can find GOOD YK right now (its hard to find, the raws are $$$)
I say give it a go before jumping on the Tren train.
I friggin love the stuff... I bought up a bunch before TSHTF.
GymnTonic I believe is still waiting for their batch of YK to be made.
That would be my 1st stop

How are your guys running it? Is this the third compound to a test/(mast/primo) type of cycle?


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[Bustanut]

Thank you for the responses Bolan! You may have hit the nail on the head.

On a moderate stack of test cyp @ 200mg / tren enan 200mg week. Started in March after several years of unhealthy lifestyle, zero lifting, got skinny-fat again. I'm a small person, ectomorph, 5' 7". Dieted the wrong way down to 139lbs in '22, and lost all my lean gains from the previous 20 years. Then went back up to ~157lb...fat again. Today I am still 157lbs, but around 12-15% BF and maybe 80% of my lean mass came back. Oh, also geriatric at 60yo.

I focus on protein and avoid carbs because carbs give me horrible stomach cramps and constipation. When I do have carbs, they are whole grain oats, rice, etc. Nothing processed or highly glycemic. I also stay in a slight deficit, trying to maingain / recomp. Have read accounts from others saying one can gain lean tissue and lose fat simultaneously on tren, even in a deficit. That was true for the first few months when BF% was still high (> ~15%). Since June, body weight has been the same and not seeing any difference in the mirror or in strength (up or down). I know fat loss and lean gains slow down, but these have completely flat lined. I would be okay with no lean gains provided fat was still disappearing, or vice-versa. All I have left is lower back fat, which I have never once been able to shed.

If there's no synergy with YK, I'll skip it. It's was the myostatin inhibiting properties and the photo of the overly muscular bull which had me considering this. lol

I'm sure you can tell I don't really know what I'm doing, but I am trying to learn! And absolutely I appreciate your input!

 

[Bolan]

How are your guys running it? Is this the third compound to a test/(mast/primo) type of cycle?


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Fast Test/ NPP/ Mast contest prep. all 12 weeks.
And Yk-11 on top.
Dry hard lean look.
Low BF and a touch of Winstrol/Halo last 2 Weeks.
Grainey hard.

 

[Bolan]

Thank you for the responses Bolan! You may have hit the nail on the head.

On a moderate stack of test cyp @ 200mg / tren enan 200mg week. Started in March after several years of unhealthy lifestyle, zero lifting, got skinny-fat again. I'm a small person, ectomorph, 5' 7". Dieted the wrong way down to 139lbs in '22, and lost all my lean gains from the previous 20 years. Then went back up to ~157lb...fat again. Today I am still 157lbs, but around 12-15% BF and maybe 80% of my lean mass came back. Oh, also geriatric at 60yo.

I focus on protein and avoid carbs because carbs give me horrible stomach cramps and constipation. When I do have carbs, they are whole grain oats, rice, etc. Nothing processed or highly glycemic. I also stay in a slight deficit, trying to maingain / recomp. Have read accounts from others saying one can gain lean tissue and lose fat simultaneously on tren, even in a deficit. That was true for the first few months when BF% was still high (> ~15%). Since June, body weight has been the same and not seeing any difference in the mirror or in strength (up or down). I know fat loss and lean gains slow down, but these have completely flat lined. I would be okay with no lean gains provided fat was still disappearing, or vice-versa. All I have left is lower back fat, which I have never once been able to shed.

If there's no synergy with YK, I'll skip it. It's was the myostatin inhibiting properties and the photo of the overly muscular bull which had me considering this. lol

I'm sure you can tell I don't really know what I'm doing, but I am trying to learn! And absolutely I appreciate your input!

You have run it for too long... since March that's 8 months!!
Phew, Id stop the tren ASAP.... Stay on normal TRT for 4-6
weeks and have your bloods pulled. Tren totally wrecks lipids on most people. I'm willing to bet at your age and the Tren just don't mix anymore.
I had to drop the stuff years ago because my bloodwork was constantly horrible. The Tren has lost its fizzle since you been on the same dose for too long.

 

[xstah]

Fast Test/ NPP/ Mast contest prep. all 12 weeks.
And Yk-11 on top.
Dry hard lean look.
Low BF and a touch of Winstrol/Halo last 2 Weeks.
Grainey hard.

Thank you for taking the time to share. Sounds like you’ve got your boys dialed in!

 

[Bolan]

Thank you for taking the time to share. Sounds like you’ve got your boys dialed in!

Its easy when they listen!!!