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Why does tren anxiety get worse with each cycle?

nuttz51

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The last two times I've been on tren the anxiety has escalated to the point I had to quit early. First time I made it 12 weeks. Second time I made it 6 weeks. Now I'm trying again and I'm having issues and wanting to quit after 3 weeks.

is there a reason for this? I'm waiting on bloodwork to come back right now.

only on 350mg a week of tren enth, 400 mast prop and 300 test e
 
nuttz51 said:
The last two times I've been on tren the anxiety has escalated to the point I had to quit early. First time I made it 12 weeks. Second time I made it 6 weeks. Now I'm trying again and I'm having issues and wanting to quit after 3 weeks.

is there a reason for this? I'm waiting on bloodwork to come back right now.

only on 350mg a week of tren enth, 400 mast prop and 300 test e
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Why don't you switch to Tren Ace?
 
SoCalJC said:
Why don't you switch to Tren Ace?
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Arent the side effects of ace even stronger than enth normally? Or is possible that running enth is making blood levels less stable. I'm pinning 100mg of enth EOD
 
Damgar said:
Changing sources? Test ratio? Additional compounds? AI?
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PL tren, definitely way stronger then what I ran first cycle.

300 test e
400 mast prop
12.5mg aromasin ed
.2mg prami ed
 
Quitting after 3 weeks? TBJ didn't raise no quitter. When I did 100mg Ed last summer I will admit, a couple times I let anxiety get the best of me.. Swear I was hypoglycemic tho..
 
Stuff that I normally am just sort of stressed about takes over my thoughts and I just can't forget about it. It's killed my appetite and kept me out of the gym for the past 2 days. Also haven't slept.
 
nuttz51 said:
Stuff that I normally am just sort of stressed about takes over my thoughts and I just can't forget about it. It's killed my appetite and kept me out of the gym for the past 2 days. Also haven't slept.
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My heart pounded through my chest, I was nervous and wanted to die. Could've been the 115 degree temp..
 
TBJ said:
My heart pounded through my chest, I was nervous and wanted to die. Could've been the 115 degree temp..
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I don't seem to effected too much by the physical symptoms. I sweat, can't breathe and notice my heart rate is elevated but what gets me is the feeling of impending doom. Always worried. Seems to set in by the end of week 1

tell me I'm just being a pussy and need to man up lol. Blood pressure has been getting abnormally high though too recently and I've been eating 95% clean, cardio every day and drinking a ton of water
 
nuttz51 said:
Arent the side effects of ace even stronger than enth normally? Or is possible that running enth is making blood levels less stable. I'm pinning 100mg of enth EOD
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I was just thinking if the sides are unbearable, at least you can make adjustments on the fly with Ace. I like Ace for that reason. Tren E just takes too long to clear. You over do it, and you are hating life for a week or so.
 
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SoCalJC said:
I was just thinking if the sides are unbearable, at least you can make adjustments on the fly with Ace. I like Ace for that reason. Tren E just takes too long to clear. You over do it, and you are hating life for a week or so.
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yeah I hear you on that. I'm only on 350 a week though. Maybe I need to play around with the test though. I thought 300 would be a good starting point.

im really trying to fight through it and stay on. Keep running out of xanax and having to go back to dr for more lol he only gives me 12 at a time
 
nuttz51 said:
I don't seem to effected too much by the physical symptoms. I sweat, can't breathe and notice my heart rate is elevated but what gets me is the feeling of impending doom. Always worried. Seems to set in by the end of week 1

tell me I'm just being a pussy and need to man up lol. Blood pressure has been getting abnormally high though too recently and I've been eating 95% clean, cardio every day and drinking a ton of water
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I'm on day 5@50mg Ed... Can't wait until I'm feeling it all. That way I know it's working and GTF outta my way kicks in.
 
TBJ said:
I'm on day 5@50mg Ed... Can't wait until I'm feeling it all. That way I know it's working and GTF outta my way kicks in.
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Lol I love that feeling too. But it sucks when your down and depressed because you can't sleep or eat.

are you still taking EQ too? That tren and EQ together turns your blood into thick mud!
 
nuttz51 said:
Lol I love that feeling too. But it sucks when your down and depressed because you can't sleep or eat.

are you still taking EQ too? That tren and EQ together turns your blood into thick mud!
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Im donating again in July. When I donated a couple months ago I had been 8 weeks into cycle. I was done donating in like 5 minutes. Shot out like a rocket
 
Interesting points here.

Just ended my 13 week Tren A @750mg/week today . Still on EQ for 14 weeks now as well.

Only the first 4 weeks i had to understand what the tren was doing to me and my body.
Never had problems eating, just depression/anxiety in beginning like always.
Luckily i always have Valium for EOD use, and more recently beta blockers to calm my heart at night due to the EQ

What i did find in the beginning was when i ran my test lower than my tren, i had extreme depression.
Once i upped my test equal or past my Tren dosages, everything was fixed.
Also proviron @50mg ED helps as well
 
Do you need the prami? Prami fucks with my sleep and makes me feel like dogshit which makes the tren harder to deal with. You may just have anxiety made worse by tren.

i know on this run keeping my E2 down had been paramount to feeling ok, getting sleep thanks to xanax before bed, I have anxiety anyway and have had to take half or even a full xanax a few times when ahit is too much. But I'm running 50/Ed of ace and 50/Ed of base. I can literally pull he plug by going to bed and not pinning in the morning. Fuck trenE. Not even once.
 
I have seen people get anxiety from prami. I never used it but I know alot who complain of the sides. Try switching to caber and see if it makes a difference
 
I did a battle with pramI and as the guys stated fuck the prami. I have anxiety as well . I get a little edgy at times but I kinda just step back and regroup. The pramI had me run down and nauseous . I dropped it and within 24 hrs I felt 100% better. I am on a similar cycle but am using ace. Test, tren ace @400 and mast. I am also on basE so plenty is running through my system. Good luck , don't quit. I think you got every tren user in this support group. Haha
 
TBJ said:
My heart pounded through my chest, I was nervous and wanted to die. Could've been the 115 degree temp..
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115 degree temperature? Lol., your cells start dying and your body shuts down at 107-108 degrees, you'd be dead.
 
You guys never heard to take Prami before bed? My body doesn't seem to respond at all to caber that's why I'm using prami. Either that or my caber is bunk, both are possible. I do have anxiety but it's never something that has had me hemmed up like this.
 
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I took mine before bed ,this lasted through the night into the next day. I mean like a badass hangover. Tren is teen like I said I just step back and regroup. Macedog takes it daily as well it probably hits us all different.
 
gdawg said:
I took mine before bed ,this lasted through the night into the next day. I mean like a badass hangover. Tren is teen like I said I just step back and regroup. Macedog takes it daily as well it probably hits us all different.
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Hmm I don't seem to feel it too bad as long as I don't take more than 0.2mg at a time. I get minimal nausea from it and get a little bit of the libido benefits. It does knock me out though. I've dosed it too high before and felt exactly what you're talking about.

thinking about upping my test to 600 and seeing what happens
 
There is a lot of missing data on tren, but it is very possible that it does play slight havoc with opiate receptors and/or possibly serotonin reuptake in addition to the aggression that it gives. Tren is by no means an opiate, an opioid, or otherwise related. However some foods, medications and environmental triggers can play with opiate receptors or affect serotonin reuptake(different receptors). Again there is no proof and such things are only speculative.
The more cycles I have run, the higher the dose I can take. I am only on 850 mg/week now. 15 years ago, 600mg was disturbing.
 
Nuttz, try this experiment. The next time you feel anxiety, eat a meal with lots of wheat. Wheat bread or wheat pasta and see how calm you get. When the effects of the wheat wear off, see how much more anxiety you have if any. I would love to hear any input.
 
If it were me I would def go with ace for one thing . That way you can make adjustments much quicker and nail down what is doing what much easier . Also try dropping the test down to HRT levels . Say around 200 - 250 mg/wk . Under your circumstances increasing your dose of test is not what you want to do . Why are you taking prami ? Do you have labs to show elevated prolactin ? Also you mentioned your body doesn't respond to caber . How do you know . Labs ?
 
Big Ronnie said:
Nuttz, try this experiment. The next time you feel anxiety, eat a meal with lots of wheat. Wheat bread or wheat pasta and see how calm you get. When the effects of the wheat wear off, see how much more anxiety you have if any. I would love to hear any input.
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Is this thinking that the anxiety could be related to the tren interacting with high amount of carbs?
 
l69lou said:
If it were me I would def go with ace for one thing . That way you can make adjustments much quicker and nail down what is doing what much easier . Also try dropping the test down to HRT levels . Say around 200 - 250 mg/wk . Under your circumstances increasing your dose of test is not what you want to do . Why are you taking prami ? Do you have labs to show elevated prolactin ? Also you mentioned your body doesn't respond to caber . How do you know . Labs ?
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I got prolactin gyno once when I was using caber. Kept upping my AI and caber dose with no help until I switched to prami. Like I said I'm waiting on blood work results right now. Had blood draw a few days ago
 

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