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CompoundLifts31

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Members or sources?

Too many "good to gos" off feels.

I am in the process of speaking to Lab4Tox. There needs to be more random testing by members. It's always talked about, but no follow through for years.

What do you guys think?



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Whoever is in the right... can't blindly believe one side or the other.
 
Board discount for members who do random testing.
New source rule???
Members would get reimbursed some how.
 
Members or sources?

Too many "good to gos" off feels.

I am in the process of speaking to Lab4Tox. There needs to be more random testing by members. It's always talked about, but no follow through for years.

What do you guys think?



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This has been talked about so many times, with a quick and temporary sense of motivation and it drops off and onto the next thing that railroaded the momentum. Much like talking and reminding people that "together" we all can clean up this world, if we all chip in and throw our own trash away where it belongs, with trash cans everywhere, yet many just openly show disregard.. Yet everyone bitches about trash. Truth is, most people just get caught up with being to busy with their own lives, work, family, gym, you name it.
The intention is there mentally with awareness, but realities are it won't ever become a long lasting "thing".. Maybe a few rounds, some hype and it dies off. Same old, same old.. Seen this many times over.
 
This has been talked about so many times, with a quick and temporary sense of motivation and it drops off and onto the next thing that railroaded the momentum. Much like talking and reminding people that "together" we all can clean up this world, if we all chip in and throw our own trash away where it belongs, with trash cans everywhere, yet many just openly show disregard.. Yet everyone bitches about trash. Truth is, most people just get caught up with being to busy with their own lives, work, family, gym, you name it.
The intention is there mentally with awareness, but realities are it won't ever become a long lasting "thing".. Maybe a few rounds, some hype and it dies off. Same old, same old.. Seen this many times over.
I know this has probably been covered a million times. But I am new here. If I wanted to send a sample in to get tested how do you even do that? Like what company? How? Is it expensive?
 
I know this has probably been covered a million times. But I am new here. If I wanted to send a sample in to get tested how do you even do that? Like what company? How? Is it expensive?
Meh. You could contact Lab4tox..
You probably looking at roughly $80 starting..
 
Last I inquired, Jano was 120 euros and Lab4Tox 130, or something like that. Wanted to send in 6+ samples but no discount offered.
So I am buying my own HPLC rig…again…soon.
If I get set up properly, I will be offering testing services for much less with easier shipping and quicker turnaround.

But before people start messaging me, know that many things must fall into place first, including working out an agreement with the owner of this board. I hope to be operational early next year. Last time I bought a system we went into lockdown for damn near two years. Shit can always happen to thwart great ideas.
 
I would be more open to "testing" if it were easier.

Just for my own personal info it would be nice to know how "legit" something is or isn't. Not just as some kinda rat.

But sources pay the rent and are the grease that keeps the wheels turning. Members are the reasons the sources are here...provide a service and make money.

Sources make money. Board makes money. Members get what they want.

I say we are third. lolz
 
Members or sources?

Too many "good to gos" off feels.

I am in the process of speaking to Lab4Tox. There needs to be more random testing by members. It's always talked about, but no follow through for years.

What do you guys think?



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So take the initiative, put "your" money where your mouth is and "SET THINGS OFF"......
 
members who been here a while posting I will give credit to, members who just joined and have one post are suspect. but you most likely are not going to have a favorable outcome if you have to take it up on a forum
 
members who been here a while posting I will give credit to, members who just joined and have one post are suspect. but you most likely are not going to have a favorable outcome if you have to take it up on a forum
 
Last I inquired, Jano was 120 euros and Lab4Tox 130, or something like that. Wanted to send in 6+ samples but no discount offered.
So I am buying my own HPLC rig…again…soon.
If I get set up properly, I will be offering testing services for much less with easier shipping and quicker turnaround.

But before people start messaging me, know that many things must fall into place first, including working out an agreement with the owner of this board. I hope to be operational early next year. Last time I bought a system we went into lockdown for damn near two years. Shit can always happen to thwart great ideas.
I just finished a round of blind testing with Jano, it's $120 USD per test on oils and results turn around with using Fedex delivery was right over 1 week.
 
I just finished a round of blind testing with Jano, it's $120 USD per test on oils and results turn around with using Fedex delivery was right over 1 week.
Thanks for clarifying the currency. He is fast enough once he gets your samples but even post is expensive, I can’t imagine fedexing
 
Thanks for clarifying the currency. He is fast enough once he gets your samples but even post is expensive, I can’t imagine fedexing
FedEx was ridiculous but I wanted numbers back fast, next will be post.
 
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No matter who does the testing, whether it's the source, or members, someone - somewhere won't tolerate the results.
I have to agree with you on this, unfortunately theres always going to be a conspiracy or motive that's screamed from the roof tops.
For me it's the satisfaction of knowing and if I decide to share then let people think what they will I can give 2 shits what others dream up, I've seen in alot of cases that once results are published the sponsors response dictates the direction things go.
 
I have to agree with you on this, unfortunately theres always going to be a conspiracy or motive that's screamed from the roof tops.
For me it's the satisfaction of knowing and if I decide to share then let people think what they will I can give 2 shits what others dream up, I've seen in alot of cases that once results are published the sponsors response dictates the direction things go.
1,000%, no matter what someone will always put a conspiracy spin to something. I have seen people add to stories, completely making shit up with sources. When the mob mentality gets chanting, if they don't get the results they want from the source, then they turn the tables onto the community staff. I seen complete debacles. Damage control/quality control, crowd control is uno numeral, Christ you can't even touch that without being accused of censoring.
In the end people just need to take a deep breath and remember where the fuck they're at! In a perfect world, there wouldn't be any fear mongering.
 
I sent a blind blood sample to Redwood Labs years ago to be tested and it came back positive for Primo. It was through a member here who's wife worked there. I was repping for AY and paid for the test myself, even posted a CC receipt. I got called everything except for a white man for weeks.
No good deed goes unpunished around here.
 
I sent a blind blood sample to Redwood Labs years ago to be tested and it came back positive for Primo. It was through a member here who's wife worked there. I was repping for AY and paid for the test myself, even posted a CC receipt. I got called everything except for a white man for weeks.
No good deed goes unpunished around here.
This is exactly the part that I'm talking about, in this life of AAS it's like being a roll of toilet paper, you are either on the roll, or taking shit from some ass hole..
The final analysis, in the end people will bicker.
 
I do feel if we had more available testing options it would be a game changer, a source and or members can only stand there ground for so long once the evidence becomes overwhelming its game over.

So @CoachCabo I hope your plan comes together.
 
I do feel if we had more available testing options it would be a game changer, a source and or members can only stand there ground for so long once the evidence becomes overwhelming its game over.

So @CoachCabo I hope your plan comes together.
In the early/mid 2000's we did have many options, but a lot of them went down along with everyone else during ORD.
There was a few facilities that were local.
It WAS a game changer, it's what I believe helped catapult the UGL world to the market, aside from all of the counterfeits and replicas people were getting with pharma gear and the crazy prices..
 
Members or sources?

Too many "good to gos" off feels.

I am in the process of speaking to Lab4Tox. There needs to be more random testing by members. It's always talked about, but no follow through for years.

What do you guys think?



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I just finished a round of blind testing with Jano, it's $120 USD per test on oils and results turn around with using Fedex delivery was right over 1 week.
This might put me in a spot that will get criticism or a bulls eye.. I have always shown love and support to other sources in their own sub-forums and high 5'ing their reps with their promos and shout-outs in the open, just showing that even other sources can network and all break bread, showing some love, humility, and support for one an other.. This has encouraged others to do the same, we raise by lifting others. I have had some great conversations with other reps in PMs that are ALL showing great levels of respect each way.

With this being said, this isn't aimed at anyone, or an attempt to open a can of worms or cause anyone grief. For transparency, as I often advocate that even in private messaging to other reps to always display truth and integrity above anything else and that members come first. I'm confident that some can attest to this statement..

I'll step up and make a donation of $120 towards testing at random, for a round.. I'll see if I can swing $240.

@CompoundLifts31 , you know when I say I'll do something and give to others, I will, I took care of you once (non gear related when you were in a small tight spot, and I came through for you, because I was in a position where I could help)
If you guys start a pot, I'll donate. I don't want this to effect any relationships I have with others, so this is just at random, my funds are just that, I want no part of knowing the product line where it was applied..

Slippery slope here, Reps should stay out of these kind of things as its member based. But I just want to set an example, of transparency and accountability..
I could use this money for things coming up in my life, but, its just money, we can't take it with us.

Serving as a Rep and being of great service to others, is the rent you pay for your room/time with being among other great people in a community like ours.. I'm yet to go broke while being of service to others, because the universe doesn't work that way.

So, here it goes, (click) ::p posted::
 
This might put me in a spot that will get criticism or a bulls eye.. I have always shown love and support to other sources in their own sub-forums and high 5'ing their reps with their promos and shout-outs in the open, just showing that even other sources can network and all break bread, showing some love, humility, and support for one an other.. This has encouraged others to do the same, we raise by lifting others. I have had some great conversations with other reps in PMs that are ALL showing great levels of respect each way.

With this being said, this isn't aimed at anyone, or an attempt to open a can of worms or cause anyone grief. For transparency, as I often advocate that even in private messaging to other reps to always display truth and integrity above anything else and that members come first. I'm confident that some can attest to this statement..

I'll step up and make a donation of $120 towards testing at random, for a round.. I'll see if I can swing $240.

@CompoundLifts31 , you know when I say I'll do something and give to others, I will, I took care of you once (non gear related when you were in a small tight spot, and I came through for you, because I was in a position where I could help)
If you guys start a pot, I'll donate. I don't want this to effect any relationships I have with others, so this is just at random, my funds are just that, I want no part of knowing the product line where it was applied..

Slippery slope here, Reps should stay out of these kind of things as its member based. But I just want to set an example, of transparency and accountability..
I could use this money for things coming up in my life, but, its just money, we can't take it with us.

Serving as a Rep and being of great service to others, is the rent you pay for your room/time with being among other great people in a community like ours.. I'm yet to go broke while being of service to others, because the universe doesn't work that way.

So, here it goes, (click) ::Posted::
Very true and very well put.

Very cool of you as usual.

I can swing $120 for a test as well.

If anyone wants info on how to test, the email for @LAB4TOX is in this thread from @Vision .

Maybe we can start to compile some things that will be tested here, making sure to not test the same thing twice.

New testing through @CoachCabo would be a great new addition to the forum, but let's not bank on that as Cabo said.




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Very true and very well put.

Very cool of you as usual.

I can swing $120 for a test as well.

If anyone wants info on how to test, the email for @LAB4TOX is in this thread from @Vision .

Maybe we can start to compile some things that will be tested here, making sure to not test the same thing twice.

New testing through @CoachCabo would be a great new addition to the forum, but let's not bank on that as Cabo said.




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Much respect to both you gentlemen and I to am willing to swing the $120. I'd love to see a plan that would allow the same samples be sent to Jano as well.
Checking the testers while checking the compounds.
 

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