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The only negative against k4l is they're claiming they don't have a rep when they clearly did. I'm not sure they should make everyone whole that ordered something from a rep, especially if it was made clear that it was out of his rep pay and not through their website.
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Guessing they dont want to be held accountable since it was their rep or have to comp ppl he ripped off. Its a shitty situation and if they had no part in it they need to make an announcement. They gained a lot of business moving over to asf, I think it was a positive move for them, unless they can't keep up with the supply and demand for the hgh lovers over here lol.
 
The only negative against k4l is they're claiming they don't have a rep when they clearly did. I'm not sure they should make everyone whole that ordered something from a rep, especially if it was made clear that it was out of his rep pay and not through their website.
I agree completely, they're definitely trying to keep up with the demand especially seeing what they dropped today with the GH. Not to bad considering the amount of us here who have been knocking the kits out. One thing is for certain, this community at ASF will dry up a Source quickly when the prices are unbeatable and has the quality to match when GH is concerned.
 
The not a K4L rep thing is pretty fucking weird tbh. A bunch of unnecessary damage control and kind of unprofessional tbh. Commented on the other thread, i’m not gonna sit here and explain myself all night.

@zwhit that’s pretty shitty dude I’ve only read the first page of this so far but you won $500 on a free raffle and you’re finding a reason to be upset about that? You wanted it first first place but didn’t want to share first place but I’m getting from that? I used rock as a random number generator and posted his responses. Just a pretty odd comment tbh sing as a couple months back you didn’t seem to have any issue DM me back-and-forth

But yeah, these fake accounts are clearly responsible for my fake rep job. What if every account is fake nothing is even real 🤔
 

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I don’t login very often anymore, and between original guy, being extremely indecisive and bipolar, and apparently being scammed in a matter of things are fine Saturday night, but somehow 12 hours later on Sunday he scammed making threads This whole thing is extremely childish. All while the last few days I’ve been preparing with my lawyer for the pretrial conference, I attended today. I’m not gonna air out all of my private doings or justify anything, but I’m disappointed in a lot of the people that I had no issue with and respected at some level.
How is JC33 connected to Stada?
Kits4less claims he’s not their rep now that multiple people are reporting him for scamming. Yet how did he get rep status attached to his name because that has to be requested to the admin.

And how is queenbee connected to jc33?

Lots is fishy shit going down
I was a rep for stada in the past have a lot of their product. Same with YMS.
What's the evidence it was @JC33 doing the scamming? Did I miss that part
I’m not sure besides refunding ops original btc received from, sent Sunday night still hasn’t emailed me back and honestly I don’t really care. The guy is dumb as nails apparently.
One of the pics he sent me before it self destructed on TG was a bunch of stellar Mast, I thought that was weird but didn't put much thought to it at the time. Definitely something going on that's bigger than anyone knew obviously.
I didn’t send you anything stellar, have a handful of their product at most. Stockpile of former stada, pretty shocked at the mob mentality and honestly just how fake a lot of people are turning out to be. Not sure if you’re exaggerating for a fact, or if you have some sort of alternative motive. Al compress and post exactly what I sent you


Yea me too, I went through @kits4less_rep for how to proceed after the raffle was over though. Not JC33.

Pretty sure buddy tried to steer 1st place and it wasn't a true raffle though. Didn't say anything before because the other member probably didn't have anything to do with it. And winning anything was better than nothing so didn't complain.

At best, dont expect buddy's source promos/giveaways to be truly random and at worst he's a full
Seems pretty disingenuous coming from a first place winner
Yes, for YMS. He was let go, but YMS never informed admin, so he kept the rep tag. I caught on eventually and asked admin to remove it.
I wasn’t let go I told them I was done, that was in 2024
 

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I always thought this as well. 🤷‍♂️
Being a rep is a job nothing more nothing less. Offering a service and getting paid and return. What’s your wrap? Your opinion means less seeing as you’re saying good things about the person paying you. HPLC testing matters more than anything else really. I’ve used nearly every sponsor on the board and most of them are comparable. It’s either good or it’s not.
I think he's banging the queen bee if I remember correctly
I'm stirring the pot.....
What a scumbag
Super disrespectful coming from someone that I not only respected, but had good discourse with going back over the years, figured you would have a general sense of who I am. Had nothing but good things to say about your lab even during my time as a rep. It looked like you were kind of defending me at first, but caved? Regardless, I don’t need anyone to defend me, mods have ehat they need. I’m disappointed tbh that stings a little bit. Working for someone and getting paid typically means you’re free to do what you like with your payment.
I don’t understand how anyone would ever, in a million years, believe that k4less did not know about JC. lmao! He was there rep.. he didn’t float a rep tag for 6 months. Running contests and posting in there sub constantly.
Someone said his name is listed on there sight..iirc.
Now there like JC who? Gtfoh 😂
Thank you though it’s way past common sense like if you have the basic ability to think you don’t have to question for a second whether or not, I was a rep for K4L or not. What’s even strangers as they didn’t even reach out to me and say like hey there’s this semi retarded weirdo messaging me about like not being able to make up his mind and wanting to front like $1500 worth of an order can you kind of fill us in on this whole thing? Lol just jump right to oh the guy that just ran the raffle for us that we talked to every day? who is that? Who am I paying every month???

I’m currently on Trt for most of the foreseeable future and working with them was more more or less than buying 10,000 banner spots. Monthly pack and btc in exchange for the banner and light activity here and there seeing as my entire life goals have completely changed. Family and work supersede everything barely active on here. I absolutely did reach out to a handful of people and let them know this is what I have. I’m liquidating pretty much everything I don’t blast anymore or really go above 600-700mg test. I don’t need countless thousands of IUs of gh gathering dust, and a crate full of vials I’ll never use. Compensation for running ads answering a million DM’s and having close to 10,000 posts going back two years where a banner would be visible i’m not seeing any wrongdoing in clearing out the inventory.
 
I don’t feel like doing this all night and it’s really unwarranted. I was always a member before I was a rep what you see is what you get. Probably won’t be logging in for a while. I’ll check on DM‘s in a little bit.
 
Being a rep is a job nothing more nothing less. Offering a service and getting paid and return. What’s your wrap? Your opinion means less seeing as you’re saying good things about the person paying you. HPLC testing matters more than anything else really. I’ve used nearly every sponsor on the board and most of them are comparable. It’s either good or it’s not.


Super disrespectful coming from someone that I not only respected, but had good discourse with going back over the years, figured you would have a general sense of who I am. Had nothing but good things to say about your lab even during my time as a rep. It looked like you were kind of defending me at first, but caved? Regardless, I don’t need anyone to defend me, mods have ehat they need. I’m disappointed tbh that stings a little bit. Working for someone and getting paid typically means you’re free to do what you like with your payment.

Thank you though it’s way past common sense like if you have the basic ability to think you don’t have to question for a second whether or not, I was a rep for K4L or not. What’s even strangers as they didn’t even reach out to me and say like hey there’s this semi retarded weirdo messaging me about like not being able to make up his mind and wanting to front like $1500 worth of an order can you kind of fill us in on this whole thing? Lol just jump right to oh the guy that just ran the raffle for us that we talked to every day? who is that? Who am I paying every month???

I’m currently on Trt for most of the foreseeable future and working with them was more more or less than buying 10,000 banner spots. Monthly pack and btc in exchange for the banner and light activity here and there seeing as my entire life goals have completely changed. Family and work supersede everything barely active on here. I absolutely did reach out to a handful of people and let them know this is what I have. I’m liquidating pretty much everything I don’t blast anymore or really go above 600-700mg test. I don’t need countless thousands of IUs of gh gathering dust, and a crate full of vials I’ll never use. Compensation for running ads answering a million DM’s and having close to 10,000 posts going back two years where a banner would be visible i’m not seeing any wrongdoing in clearing out the inventory.
Who’s payin me to say what about who? lol please fill me in so I can collect my debt
 
Who’s payin me to say what about who? lol please fill me in so I can collect my debt
Voice to text butchered a lot of what I said, but had a lot of ground to cover. General statement “once you are a rep your opinion means less” not directed at you. But it’s true, sure anyone can love and stand by a brand but as soon as someone’s getting paid to represent and advertise for them its less meaningful to say this gear is fire blah blah blah. Im sure there’s a ton of other mixed up sentences def didn’t proof read anything
 
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Fuck the was or wasn't a rep shit. Wassup with the people you owe "xyz" to???
 
Why all the screen name changes????????????????
Guy has had multiple handles on here.. Usually there's a reason for that.
I’ve changed my name once a year since I joined? All based on the same general handle. Not sure I’m really understanding what you’re saying anyone can click a person‘s avatar and see what their name previously was. Not really doing an AMA just baseline facts. I care very little about investing a lot of time into this, more surprised at how fake a lot of people are. But I’d be a liar if I said I didn’t get a kick out of stirring the pot every once in a while too. Guy with month old account doesn’t get a response lol
 
POST THE SCREENSHOTS OF YOU AND K4L SAYING YOU CAN BE HIS REP AND I'LL PUBLICLY APOLOGIES TO YOU AND QUEEN BEE. OTHERWISE GET FUCKED. I HAVE NO ROOM OR PATIENCE FOR A SCAMMER IN MY LIFE

I sent kits4less another email asking them about
jc33 being a rep with screenshots and they refuse to answer me.
JC33 sent me screenshots of their conversations

That’s pretty much a wrap, kits4less are boldfaced Liars

But there’s still some scamming claims we’re looking at, we’re waiting on replies.
 
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I don’t login very often anymore, and between original guy, being extremely indecisive and bipolar, and apparently being scammed in a matter of things are fine Saturday night, but somehow 12 hours later on Sunday he scammed making threads This whole thing is extremely childish. All while the last few days I’ve been preparing with my lawyer for the pretrial conference, I attended today. I’m not gonna air out all of my private doings or justify anything, but I’m disappointed in a lot of the people that I had no issue with and respected at some level.

I was a rep for stada in the past have a lot of their product. Same with YMS.

I’m not sure besides refunding ops original btc received from, sent Sunday night still hasn’t emailed me back and honestly I don’t really care. The guy is dumb as nails apparently.

I didn’t send you anything stellar, have a handful of their product at most. Stockpile of former stada, pretty shocked at the mob mentality and honestly just how fake a lot of people are turning out to be. Not sure if you’re exaggerating for a fact, or if you have some sort of alternative motive. Al compress and post exactly what I sent you



Seems pretty disingenuous coming from a first place winner

I wasn’t let go I told them I was done, that was in 2024
Can't post what you sent cuz you set a self destruct on TG, maybe it wasn't stellar stella whatever the name of the lab is. At the end of the day I could careless honestly about you or what you do or don't do. Are you getting the 2 guy's right that sent you the funds for what they ordered? I don't care about any of the other yapping other than getting the other brothers right for what you said you were going to send em.
 
Can't post what you sent cuz you set a self destruct on TG, maybe it wasn't stellar stella whatever the name of the lab is. At the end of the day I could careless honestly about you or what you do or don't do. Are you getting the 2 guy's right that sent you the funds for what they ordered? I don't care about any of the other yapping other than getting the other brothers right for what you said you were going to send em.

We’re working on that. Waiting for replies on some screenshots. Nothing is finalized yet
 
I’ve changed my name once a year since I joined? All based on the same general handle. Not sure I’m really understanding what you’re saying anyone can click a person‘s avatar and see what their name previously was. Not really doing an AMA just baseline facts. I care very little about investing a lot of time into this, more surprised at how fake a lot of people are. But I’d be a liar if I said I didn’t get a kick out of stirring the pot every once in a while too. Guy with month old account doesn’t get a response lol
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Guy with month old account doesn’t get a response lol"
Hmmm referring to me. Way to cop out of answering. You pretty much a bitch for that. Valid question is valid question, miss me with the tenure bullshit
 
@JC33 I think it was obvious I was surprised when this all came about so don't try to turn it around and play victim. I've told people in DMs I was surprised and thought you were good people. Maybe I was right

Here's what I think probably happened. I think you got in a tight spot because you don't have your stuff together right now and started selling off your rep pay/stash and you're being slow to get it out. And it looks like you don't really care too much at this point. It's not a good look. There's no question in my mind you were their rep, never was. But the actions you took came back on them and they've washed their hands now.

Just get the guys squared up that you took funds from and it this whole thing will be done and probably don't expect to rep any more.

I pray you get it together brother. I do think you're better than whatever all this is, for what it's worth
 
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mf i just placed an order from fucking k4l and now this fucking drama
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i think this shit sucks you come into a place like this where the shopping is supposed to be safe yet somehow the scammers slime their way through a back door---like ive said before ---maybe every order people and the sellers make donate a dollar or two to fund to cover shit like this and make a few rules about it so assholes can't try to abuse it---if someone from administration wants to start a bitcoin address for it i will be the first to date think i still have i few bucks in crypto
 
i think this shit sucks you come into a place like this where the shopping is supposed to be safe yet somehow the scammers slime their way through a back door---like ive said before ---maybe every order people and the sellers make donate a dollar or two to fund to cover shit like this and make a few rules about it so assholes can't try to abuse it---if someone from administration wants to start a bitcoin address for it i will be the first to date think i still have i few bucks in crypto
I feel like I saw this same idea suggested elsewhere just recently and it was negated. Seems like a pretty alright idea to me...
 
How did he get made a rep here and facilitate the raffle if he wasn't an actual rep?

Right? It's like some of the powers that be are in on these fuck abouts. That could never be though...no no not here not on ASF!? :thinking:
 
It's been concluded that he was an actual rep and that for some reason K4L was denying that fact on their own.
They denied it cuz they don't operate like that and want no part of the shady bullshit imo and from what I'm seeing.
 
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