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Tren Ace or Masteron?

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I starting a 750mg test a week in about a month. Trying to decide if I should try masteron with it or go with tren ace. I’ve never tried mast, but have a couple tren cycles under my belt. It works well but is tough on the body especially as I get older.

Let me know what you guys think. Btw I’ll be using SBL products. Thanks guys!
 
I’ll always say stay the fuck away from Tren and run mast. There’s no reason to ever run Tren unless you’re competing half the guys running it on here look like shit and don’t need it.

Masteron is very versatile, excellent mental effects and it complements test very well. Run 3-400 mast e and enjoy the slow lean gains from it, and that extra graininess is nice.
 
Thanks for the responses guys. Yea I know they’re apples and oranges. I took tren ace a couple of summers ago and it showed, but I could tell it was tough on my body. I was about 250 and lean.

I’ve never did mast and wondering what to expect from it. From my research, I’ve read it’s not real harsh. I don’t compete in bodybuilding or anything anymore, but I’m 5’ 11” and weight around 245ibs at around 15% bodyfat. I’d like to stay under 275 bodyweight and recomp for the summer.
 
Imtryin said:
Thanks for the responses guys. Yea I know they’re apples and oranges. I took tren ace a couple of summers ago and it showed, but I could tell it was tough on my body. I was about 250 and lean.

I’ve never did mast and wondering what to expect from it. From my research, I’ve read it’s not real harsh. I don’t compete in bodybuilding or anything anymore, but I’m 5’ 11” and weight around 245ibs at around 15% bodyfat. I’d like to stay under 275 bodyweight and recomp for the summer.
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Well everyone reacts to things differently, but my experience with Masteron has always been great. No bloat, increased strength, significantly increased libido, and nipples always feel tight on it, rarely ever any puffyness. I genuinely do like it in a bulk for the strength and mental effects I get from it. A lot of people chalk it up as just a cutting steroid, but I think it has a lot more to offer.

It’s also better on bloodwork than a lot of other compounds, but it can be rough on HDL specifically. My ldls never over 100 no matter what I take but with high mast my HDL will drop under 40. Definitely would consider it a “feel good compound”. Last thing, it definitely brings out a cosmetic hardness grainy look when your sub 10% bf but I still see significantly increased vascularity at 15%
 
You could try DHB instead of Tren or Mast. A little stronger than Mast and the benefit of being way less harsh on the hairline than Mast.
 
Imtryin said:
I starting a 750mg test a week in about a month. Trying to decide if I should try masteron with it or go with tren ace. I’ve never tried mast, but have a couple tren cycles under my belt. It works well but is tough on the body especially as I get older.

Let me know what you guys think. Btw I’ll be using SBL products. Thanks guys!
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I have no experience with tren BUT with masteron. I recognized that I don't feel anything from masteron under 450mg/week. If you want to feel the strength, the hardness and especially the anti-estrogen effect you need to inject more (well in my case). Everybody is different of course. I'm 38 years old, trained 20years natural, had 2 cycles until now and my weight ist 211lbs with 14% bf.
 
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badgerz94 said:
You could try DHB instead of Tren or Mast. A little stronger than Mast and the benefit of being way less harsh on the hairline than Mast.
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DHB has been shown to significantly increase liver weight in mice where as mast does not. I know this is in mice, but it’s not nothing.
 
Imtryin said:
I starting a 750mg test a week in about a month. Trying to decide if I should try masteron with it or go with tren ace. I’ve never tried mast, but have a couple tren cycles under my belt. It works well but is tough on the body especially as I get older.

Let me know what you guys think. Btw I’ll be using SBL products. Thanks guys!
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The actual best way to to run all three. Phenomenal cycle for experienced user.
 
Both, I like 500 test, 600 Mast, 350 tren a. It's a killer combo but I don't get any bad sides with the tren so I guess avoid it if it's hard on you.
 
Matt88 said:
Mast for sure. Mast is amazing and its not toxic like tren. You can run mast and test for a very long time. You don`t want to run tren for a very long time.
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Fo sho.

Mast is as close to the perfect anabolic as you're going to get. Low toxicity across the board, can run in any cycle, bulk or cut, dry, can handle large doses, manipulates estrogen, and DOES put muscle on despite what some "bro's" say.

Tren is a contest prep drug for when you are on poverty calories, low bodyfat and need aggression. That's it.
 
Meetketchup said:
Fo sho.

Mast is as close to the perfect anabolic as you're going to get. Low toxicity across the board, can run in any cycle, bulk or cut, dry, can handle large doses, manipulates estrogen, and DOES put muscle on despite what some "bro's" say.

Tren is a contest prep drug for when you are on poverty calories, low bodyfat and need aggression. That's it.
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The fact that it lowers SHBG which boosts free testosterone is enough to make it amazing. Everything else is just the icing on the cake 🎂
 
I have a different thought on all this, as an M.D. (self) educated on PEDs and their safe use.

When using other anabolics, the only real use for test is as a prohormone for estrogen. It's also obviously a prohormone for DHT, which is rapidly deactivated by skeletal muscle so useless for anabolism. DHT also enlarges the prostate and thins the hair.

Tren is amazing for metabolism and nutrient partitioning, and not much is needed to get results. And it is safe at low doses < 70mg/week; it's been tested and used at these doses, in women nonetheless. Side effects and possibly toxicity come at higher doses typically used. Tren should not be liver toxic at any reasonable dose.

So maybe consider running test at a level that gives you adequate estrogen, then a safe dose of tren (70/wk long term or 140/wk for short-intermediate term), then add enough of a DHT derivate to meet your anabolic needs - which would be enough to allow primarily lean weight gain in a caloric surplus.

Just my $0.02. Btw I cruise on 140 testE, 140 mastE, and 70 trenA. When I blast I double the tren and add some MENT and/or YK-11.
 
NastyN8-070918 said:
What's not to love, good Mast effects kick in pretty fast and the hardened look is always a crowd pleaser. I'm lovin the Mast E, Test C and Tren A combo right now.
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I’m a big Mast fan 😂 still haven’t tried tren, maybe low dose this summer
 
jigsaw said:
I have a different thought on all this, as an M.D. (self) educated on PEDs and their safe use.

When using other anabolics, the only real use for test is as a prohormone for estrogen. It's also obviously a prohormone for DHT, which is rapidly deactivated by skeletal muscle so useless for anabolism. DHT also enlarges the prostate and thins the hair.

Tren is amazing for metabolism and nutrient partitioning, and not much is needed to get results. And it is safe at low doses < 70mg/week; it's been tested and used at these doses, in women nonetheless. Side effects and possibly toxicity come at higher doses typically used. Tren should not be liver toxic at any reasonable dose.

So maybe consider running test at a level that gives you adequate estrogen, then a safe dose of tren (70/wk long term or 140/wk for short-intermediate term), then add enough of a DHT derivate to meet your anabolic needs - which would be enough to allow primarily lean weight gain in a caloric surplus.

Just my $0.02. Btw I cruise on 140 testE, 140 mastE, and 70 trenA. When I blast I double the tren and add some MENT and/or YK-
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Apparently it’s not hard to convince me to use Tren Ace Ed for life. 😂
Noted
 

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