The TRUTH About Equipoise w/Molecular

[Cypher]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=673j-s636Vk

 

[bigrond]

Just finished watching that 1. Never used eq likely never will.

 

[Theotherone55]

Such a strange time that EQ is getting shit on. Been around for DECADES with basically no hate…but now that the overall gear demographic is getting older, we see that old dudes can’t handle it too much. Mostly hematocrit and RBC stuff. I’ve yet to see one client with kidney issues because of this. Plus we’re seen a lot of the kidney shit stress tests can be avoided with heavy antioxidant use (and Vit C).

We can make a scare tactic video about deca, tren, all orals, etc. basically, if you’re fragile…use other shit. If not, be smart and use all the tools in your toolbox.

 

[Cypher]

Such a strange time that EQ is getting shit on. Been around for DECADES with basically no hate…but now that the overall gear demographic is getting older, we see that old dudes can’t handle it too much. Mostly hematocrit and RBC stuff. I’ve yet to see one client with kidney issues because of this. Plus we’re seen a lot of the kidney shit stress tests can be avoided with heavy antioxidant use (and Vit C).

We can make a scare tactic video about deca, tren, all orals, etc. basically, if you’re fragile…use other shit. If not, be smart and use all the tools in your toolbox.

 

[unseen423]

Such a strange time that EQ is getting shit on. Been around for DECADES with basically no hate…but now that the overall gear demographic is getting older, we see that old dudes can’t handle it too much. Mostly hematocrit and RBC stuff. I’ve yet to see one client with kidney issues because of this. Plus we’re seen a lot of the kidney shit stress tests can be avoided with heavy antioxidant use (and Vit C).

We can make a scare tactic video about deca, tren, all orals, etc. basically, if you’re fragile…use other shit. If not, be smart and use all the tools in your toolbox.

The other interesting things I have noticed about the E2 hate recently is:
Guys used to say that anything under 600mg/week was pointless to run.
Now, we see guys talking about 200-300mg/week crashing their E2 bad.
For those who ran it "back in the day", were you guys not getting absolutely massacred E2 at the "higher" doses?

I'm very curious, as I plan on running it soon.

 

[McPriimate]

The other interesting things I have noticed about the E2 hate recently is:
Guys used to say that anything under 600mg/week was pointless to run.
Now, we see guys talking about 200-300mg/week crashing their E2 bad.
For those who ran it "back in the day", were you guys not getting absolutely massacred E2 at the "higher" doses?

I'm very curious, as I plan on running it soon.

Great question!

Curious about it, as I ran it for the first time last winter for like 16 weeks and really liked it (with test, NPP and gh, plus a 6 week stint of YK-11 in there). Felt great but at 210 EQ and test at 525 (or 575? Would have to check logs, but around that) it took my E2 from what would have reliably been 100 or a bit over on that much test alone to the mid 20’s (at 6 and 16 weeks - steady at 24, 26). If I’d run 1:1 out the gate I’d have been miserable, as I don’t tolerate low E2 (feel fine with it high). That was enough E2 to still feel good, but less than I like, so I’m kind of limited on how much eq I can use.

Before testing was common, did any vets have issues with E2 crashing? Maybe it’s cuz I’m older?


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[unseen423]

Great question!

Curious about it, as I ran it for the first time last winter for like 16 weeks and really liked it (with test, NPP and gh, plus a 6 week stint of YK-11 in there). Felt great but at 210 EQ and test at 525 (or 575? Would have to check logs, but around that) it took my E2 from what would have reliably been 100 or a bit over on that much test alone to the mid 20’s (at 6 and 16 weeks - steady at 24, 26). If I’d run 1:1 out the gate I’d have been miserable, as I don’t tolerate low E2 (feel fine with it high). That was enough E2 to still feel good, but less than I like, so I’m kind of limited on how much eq I can use.

Before testing was common, did any vets have issues with E2 crashing? Maybe it’s cuz I’m older?


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GREAT feedback, brother! Thats some serious E2 suppression! I guess the takeaway would be to start at a higher ratio, 4:1 or 3:1 and go from there based on labs.
Yah, I wonder if the OGs were just rolling around with smashed E2, or on the other hand, they were crushing so much Dbol that it kept E2 in line even 600mg+ of EQ!

 

[Battlecat]

GREAT feedback, brother! Thats some serious E2 suppression! I guess the takeaway would be to start at a higher ratio, 4:1 or 3:1 and go from there based on labs.
Yah, I wonder if the OGs were just rolling around with smashed E2, or on the other hand, they were crushing so much Dbol that it kept E2 in line even 600mg+ of EQ!

That could make alot of sense. I think Jay Cutler ran EQ higher than test- wonder if he pops dbol like candy.

 

[balin]

I ran Eq more often then not for well over 10 years and never had any physical issues. I am 66 don't care for deca and tren any more and haven't run EQ(although i usually used bold cyp) since my mid 50's. So just test and primo these years.

 

[unseen423]

I ran Eq more often then not for well over 10 years and never had any physical issues. I am 66 don't care for deca and tren any more and haven't run EQ(although i usually used bold cyp) since my mid 50's. So just test and primo these years.

Sent you a message with some questions about bold cyp


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