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The one retarded mod that banned @valdosta (POLL)

Unban Valdosta (Valerie)

  • Val didn’t do anything wrong & ban was completely unwarranted

    Votes: 25 100.0%

  • What he did was disgusting and unacceptable 🤣

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    25
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Omoplata said:
nah, i just show my friends the thread and we laugh at how older men act vs younger guys, and then realize we’re not insecure 🤣
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Idk man I think the one always talking about not being insecure is the one trying to convince themselves and others of it

It’s ok to be insecure but let’s try not to project that onto others.
 
thebiggestdumbass said:
Idk man I think the one always talking about not being insecure is the one trying to convince themselves and others of it

It’s ok to be insecure but let’s try not to project that onto others.
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We will see how you act in the future then

Thankfully I’ve already scratched the surface. It doesn’t take much to get someone to show their true colors. 🙂
 
TomJ said:
Fully, 100% disagree.

You dont get prop contamination like they had by accident.
HB might have been retards and not known actus was doing it, but actus was absolutely, without a doubt, making a good batch for testing, then cutting shit with cheaper raws or making shit batches for sale.

They absolutely were scamming people.
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it was the employee on camera lol

he made everything into test c :mad:

damn employees cant trust anyone now a days
 
Omoplata said:
For sure! My major is Criminal Justice. And I don’t like assholes. 🙂
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Aahhh so we’re seeing self hate on full display.

Look man, I’m in college as well. Some of us choose hard majors, stem majors. and the other choose Criminal Justice and Communications, it’s ok your not smart, you don’t have to act like you are here, we’re all dumb meatheads.

based on your weird ass holier than thou, psychoanalyst bullshit, you’ve just taken your second or third psychology course
 
yinjuju said:
Agree to disagree then. I don’t think this was always the case. It’s not a coincidence it got bad when raws got bad. All my products were good, when I had issues, they rectified via email. To call them full fledged scammers isn’t accurate in my opinion, but to each their own. I’m just saying - sitting back months later and taking it all in. Everyone is getting destroyed by this. Raw materials are, simply put, garbage now. This market is cooked. Hopefully it lets up and everything normalizes 2026 midterms.
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As someone who brews and is intimately familiar on the backend of this industry, nobody is getting raws cut with prop, that can only realistically happen at the brewing stage intentionally.

People are getting sent fake raws, or low purity garbage every day, never expensive raw+cheap raw cut.

We have plenty of brewers and labs here, I'd be very surprised if any of them have seen cut raws like that.
 
I think if you guys want to get mad and take it out on anyone,

You should take it out on me.

@REHH ill serve Val’s temporary ban for him if you reinstate him
 
thebiggestdumbass said:
based on your weird ass holier than thou, psychoanalyst bullshit, you’ve just taken your second or third psychology course
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What? No. Used to be a huge jerk, girlfriend has been patient with me, don’t like the behavior. No need for it. Anyway, this is childish. Take it easy
 
TomJ said:
As someone who brews and is intimately familiar on the backend of this industry, nobody is getting raws cut with prop, that can only realistically happen at the brewing stage intentionally.

People are getting sent fake raws, or low purity garbage every day, never expensive raw+cheap raw cut.

We have plenty of brewers and labs here, I'd be very surprised if any of them have seen cut raws like that.
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no I don’t disagree with you there absolutely at all. I’m just saying, shit hit the fan and they were probably the first notably on here, and for them it came crashing down at once (maybe their own fault). I would put money APG got bad raws/didn’t test and cut random shit in their product, HB didn’t know, didn’t wanna admit it, etc. oh well. They should have just called the manufacturer out, switched to a new one (if they even could due to the shortage), and stayed and dealt with it. But oh well. They gone now. I’m just saying. Everyone is fucked right now. This is really becoming a worse case scenario, and looking back they really could still be here if they handled it better.

This situation HAS to self correct soon, hopefully trump and the whole trade war nonsense with china stops early 2026 for midterms like it did back in 2018.
 
yinjuju said:
This situation HAS to self correct soon, hopefully trump and the whole trade war nonsense with china stops early 2026 for midterms like it did back in 2018.
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Tarifs and trade wars kind of don't play a factor.
It was arrests and shut downs by the Chinese government on the plants manufacturing the material.

It started with QSC getting busted, they shut down all the manufacturers supplying qsc when they took them down and those manufacturers were supplying the majority of the UGL market one way or another.

Some raws are slowly getting trickled out currently, but even if raws production returned to 2023 levels, it would take a year or more for it to be readily available in the UGL market like it was, and pricing will probably never come back to being that low ever again.

I'll be shocked if we see test c under $400 a kg again in the next few years.


Right now almost all the raw being produced is going straight to Chinese finished oil manufacturers rather than making it to the market as raw material.
 
TomJ said:
Tarifs and trade wars kind of don't play a factor.
It was arrests and shut downs by the Chinese government on the plants manufacturing the material.

It started with QSC getting busted, they shut down all the manufacturers supplying qsc when they took them down and those manufacturers were supplying the majority of the UGL market one way or another.

Some raws are slowly getting trickled out currently, but even if raws production returned to 2023 levels, it would take a year or more for it to be readily available in the UGL market like it was, and pricing will probably never come back to being that low ever again.

I'll be shocked if we see test c under $400 a kg again in the next few years.


Right now almost all the raw being produced is going straight to Chinese finished oil manufacturers rather than making it to the market as raw material.
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More so talking about the customs issues in terms of trade war. The raws are cooked in china… but So many people aren’t even realizing how bad customs is. Even if it’s made again, it’s super hard to get here. All those IRS agents “fired”? They replaced that 3x in customs agents. I can’t even import fucking vitamins right now from INDIA for my own consumption. The days of Chinese warehouses receiving material and reshipping to brewers domestically is mostly over, I think that’s also why raws domestically are so expensive. They may send 4KG of TREN ENANTHATE but only 1 realistically arrives in US. It’s becoming like Australia customs.
 
tommygunz said:
You can be banned for any reason at any time. I’ve said this before, rules here are subjective and open for interpretation. But the bottom line is that almost everyone here knows when things get pushed too far by members. With this member it’s very clear he’s been given a lot of rope for a long time.

Temp ban or permanent?
We had a douche post a douches name an address but only got a time out.
Bashing a source? Sure, slap on the wrist is warranted I guess. I got a ban for calling a source a bunch of Chinamen, but here I am 🤷🏿‍♂️
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I got my account deactivated by a MOD for reporting MY OWN POST.

A source changed the post, and I want it removed. I got banned.

Some mods are just sensitive and have boners for certain laypeople.
 
REHH said:
I watched him do it for a while then gave him one or two warnings myself as well I think another mod may have warned him.
He slowed down but has gradually started doing it again
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This part's 100 percent true. i lasted bout a week then started messin with people again 🤦🏼 lasted longer than my diet tho. one day i'll get both dialed in
 
REHH said:
I’ll lift his ban, I see he has support here and you guys like him. Guess I took the Monkey man more personal
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Thanks. No monkey man was just a casual jeer. I genuinely meant he handled the situation well. had the whole matter resolved within 20mins no questions asked. very well done
 
Not answering the poll cuz I don't know what happened but I bet you can guess that I don't think anyone should be banned for saying something in the Pit although I suppose there are still some lines.

Anywho, I've always had a soft spot for Valdo. He's like the son that never listens and sometimes he goes against conventional wisdom with success and ya like how dafuq and just scratch your head.....ah..lol,.. you all right @Valdosta - You know I always will wish you the best.
 
Valdosta said:
Thanks @REHH I was really not looking forward to having to migrate to PM. I am now more grateful for this place after looking into the alternatives 💀
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We’re good. Thanks for coming back and being civil in the pit, that goes a long way with me.
And just for everyone else, your not 100% safe in the pit, if your a big enough douchebag you will get banned eventually even when posting in the pit, we’ve seen this with a couple guys recently and I can tell you I’ve seen dozens of guys banned out of the pit over the years.

Anyways you guys have seen we had to start cracking down on all the shit talking and bashing recently. Also we’ve been accused of deleting threads about bad testing protecting sources; I can tell you none of them have been deleted by the staff unless it was done by the source who has mod powers to delete and edit in their sub forums; we don’t really moderate inside source forums. The mods have only been locking the threads not deleting.

I would just like to ask all the members, reps and sources who post to be a little more respectful in some of these threads; as we have seen just recently with the collapse of the raw industry no source is completely immune from mistakes or getting bad product so be careful throwing stones at others when it can happen to you one day.
 

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