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Test + Deca + Anavar

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So am planning to start a cycle of the following. Would love any thoughts on this. I have my diet on point, lift 5 times a week as well as train bjj twice a day. My main use for Deca is really joint pain from lifting and bjj. Any thoughts?

I was running 400 a week of test and 100 mg a week of deca for 6 weeks. before the following

8 week cycle.
Test: 600mg a week
- Split 300 x 2 a week
Deca: 200mg a week
- Split 100 x 2 a week
oxandrolone 50mg day
- split 25mg 2 x day
AI .50mg
- Split .25 x 2 a week
 
you only need about 50-100 for joint relief. That 200 is gonna give you joint relief and significant growth. 300 test would have been plenty with this run. Thayts my opinion. everyones body responds different.
 
What are your goals? And what are your current stats?

Assuming you know what you are doing training wise and diet is on point like you say, no reason you shouldn't pack on some lean muscle and see significant strength increases (assuming that is what you are going for)
Baseline blood tests?
As for the AI, you just guessing on that? Is that a protocol you have used before? I ask because I only utilize AI's when I need them and I determine that through blood-tests and my own historical markers. I really don't deviate much from my tried and true stacks, so I pretty much know what I need.

Taking an AI just because you think you need to could cause additional issues that then have to be addressed.
 
Astro95 said:
Too short of a cycle for either compound especially Deca imo. You explain your reasoning behind Deca, why var? Do you cycle and pct or TRT?
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TRT after, so would go down to just 160mg as normal. Possbily keep Deca at 25mg or 50mg a week.
 
christiantt said:
What are your goals? And what are your current stats?

Assuming you know what you are doing training wise and diet is on point like you say, no reason you shouldn't pack on some lean muscle and see significant strength increases (assuming that is what you are going for)
Baseline blood tests?
As for the AI, you just guessing on that? Is that a protocol you have used before? I ask because I only utilize AI's when I need them and I determine that through blood-tests and my own historical markers. I really don't deviate much from my tried and true stacks, so I pretty much know what I need.

Taking an AI just because you think you need to could cause additional issues that then have to be addressed.
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So really, I compete in the masters division of bjj. Some absolute units at my weight, obviously on cycles as they do not test masters division. Looking to just get as strong as possible which happens to also help prevent injuries. Blood work was great, was tested about 7 weeks back. AI is part of my normal protocol with TRT as my estradiol tends to run a bit high. AI was after a discussion with the Clinic doc.
 
Astro95 said:
He states he was on Test, Deca on lower dose for 6 weeks so unless it’s a cycle extension, then it’d make sense, but I wouldn’t have worded that starting a cycle. We’ll see once he responds.
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Correct, my normal TRT is 200mg a week of just test. I did 6 weeks at 400 with the deca. Plan to do this 8week as I mentioned above to really finish with as much strength as possible.
 
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ghostman said:
Correct, my normal TRT is 200mg a week of just test. I did 6 weeks at 400 with the deca. Plan to do this 8week as I mentioned above to really finish with as much strength as possible.
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In that case sounds good to me. Y’all guys heavy into bjj makes me wonder what y’all do for a living lol I don’t think I could pull it off plus the gym, work, life etc. but good deal.
 
Astro95 said:
In that case sounds good to me. Y’all guys heavy into bjj makes me wonder what y’all do for a living lol I don’t think I could pull it off plus the gym, work, life etc. but good deal.
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I am very fortunate in my career at the moment. After years of crappy hours, I've worked myself into the perfect storm and dream role lol. Now that I am 40 however my body is like, who do you think you are haha.
 
Muscle building takes a long time. You can’t just increase your dosage and expect better results in a shorter amount of time. Cut your dosage in half and double the time of the cycle and it’s perfect.
 
AdvancedDreamer said:
Muscle building takes a long time. You can’t just increase your dosage and expect better results in a shorter amount of time. Cut your dosage in half and double the time of the cycle and it’s perfect.
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Appreciate the input! I 100% agree and understand that it takes time. I was a bit concerned with doing it longer, but going half on everything and just making longer makes sense.
 
ghostman said:
So really, I compete in the masters division of bjj. Some absolute units at my weight, obviously on cycles as they do not test masters division. Looking to just get as strong as possible which happens to also help prevent injuries. Blood work was great, was tested about 7 weeks back. AI is part of my normal protocol with TRT as my estradiol tends to run a bit high. AI was after a discussion with the Clinic doc.
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Anavar and deca are, for me, the fucking elixir of strength. Deca alone, anavar alone, I get monster strong. Combine them it's the strongest I've ever been. Given your bjj focus and it's associated conditioning, your body should have decent elasticity and explosiveness even under the strength building focus.
 

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