Soldiers and HRT

[GYMnTONIC]

Thoughts?

 

[Sh195580]

I’m interested to know what the threshold for low T is as well as the approved methods to increase low T. I would bet either enclomidiphene or testosterone cream would be the preferred method to increase levels. Needles and vials are not ideal to keep Soldiers deployable anywhere in the world.


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[ricroc]

I like the idea of screening for Test, but like above, what's the threshold? What will be the way with which they deal with raising them? Raises a ton of questions.

 

[Skud008]

Honestly it's not a bad idea if they can manage it properly. I think it's a step in the right direction of taking a more complete and nuanced approach to health that many private citizens are already doing on their own. At least with the military they generally have mandatory PT so the vast majority of these guys will take to it decently well. Could be a real mess if police departments for instance just started handing out test to dudes with 45% body fat that haven't so much as jogged in over a decade lol

 

[MBW212]

It will be interesting to see if their levels are low if they put them on test

 

[Skud008]

I’m interested to know what the threshold for low T is as well as the approved methods to increase low T. I would bet either enclomidiphene or testosterone cream would be the preferred method to increase levels. Needles and vials are not ideal to keep Soldiers deployable anywhere in the world.


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Aren't all the international bases pretty well stocked with all sorts of med supplies? I'm sure they have plenty of syringes shipped to them annually anyway, probably wouldn't be that big of a deal to add some test vials to their medical supply stocks.

 

[Glycomann]

Mixed thoughts. 1. All the concussive brain trauma probably makes a lot of them hypo. 2. Putting young men on test long term will probably jip them and their wives out of some children. 3. If servicemen are forced to be on testosterone then I am not supportive of such a policy. 4. I would not trust the government to do it right. 5. I can't see how this is something that is possible when deployed into a war one. 6. The Germans did it in WWII and they lost.

 

[Crusty_69]

I’m interested to know what the threshold for low T is as well as the approved methods to increase low T. I would bet either enclomidiphene or testosterone cream would be the preferred method to increase levels. Needles and vials are not ideal to keep Soldiers deployable anywhere in the world.


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I work with guy that worked at a lab that would do testosterone pellets implant under your skin. He said they had some that would last 6 months and was trying to test some that would last to a year. Idk how good they are or how well they keep your test levels.

 

[Skud008]

I work with guy that worked at a lab that would do testosterone pellets implant under your skin. He said they had some that would last 6 months and was trying to test some that would last to a year. Idk how good they are or how well they keep your test levels.

The biggest problem with those is dose adjustment, once it's in its in and you're just kind of along for the ride without a surgical removal of the pellet, which is obviously less than ideal. And apparently the bump it leaves kinda just stays there too, it doesn't really go down much as the pellet becomes inert and stops working after several months. Definitely not a route I would ever consider going down, I'd do the ol' ball gel long before pellets.

 

[Farmerdan]

How many guys are gonna get popped for already being on unauthorized “TRT” or gear?

Remember, there was a huge scandal in the SEALs a few years back where some dudes died in BUDS and when they found out they were running test, they blamed their deaths on that.

The military attracts some of the dumbest mf’ers in the world — some of the kids in basic training have to be taught how to properly conduct basic hygiene. Really trust these kids to pin themselves and not end up with massive infections that render them non-deployable?

Just a couple initial thoughts

 

[Skud008]

How many guys are gonna get popped for already being on unauthorized “TRT” or gear?

Remember, there was a huge scandal in the SEALs a few years back where some dudes died in BUDS and when they found out they were running test, they blamed their deaths on that.

The military attracts some of the dumbest mf’ers in the world — some of the kids in basic training have to be taught how to properly conduct basic hygiene. Really trust these kids to pin themselves and not end up with massive infections that render them non-deployable?

Just a couple initial thoughts

Lol all valid points